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    It just blows me away that the single most important election in the world becoming a complete and total farce is thought of as politics as usual and no big deal here.
    The "farce" is that both parties tell the average voter that we live in a democracy, and then every election without fail, Joe Uneducated Voter is then somehow blindsided by the truth that we live in a republic when the Electoral College does their job...

    The problem is not with the Electoral College in and of itself, which when used properly at least grants SOME voice to the smaller states instead of letting California, New York, and Texas choose our POTUS every election.... it's with people's trance-like devotion to Team Red and Team Blue, the gerrymandering crooks that the electorate consents to govern them, and the electorate's ignorant expectation of a political system that we don't use....

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    What I would also like to see is Voter ID laws passing and start begin implemented NOW, not 6 months before the election. This is the time to do it.

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    They don't care about disenfranchised you. They work for the 1% and to increase their own wealth.
    If I ever make it to being in the 1%, I'll probably get ed then.

    It would be nice if moderates could actually have a ing voice again in this ing nation.

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    Btw, getting rid of the Electoral College and embracing mob-rule democracy won't make elections any fairer.... you'd really rather give all the power to easily-rigged/glitched Diebold machines and foreign vote-counting firms?

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    If I ever make it to being in the 1%, I'll probably get ed then.
    you'd go from being a 99% ee to being a 1% er.

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    Btw, getting rid of the Electoral College and embracing mob-rule democracy won't make elections any fairer.... you'd really rather give all the power to easily-rigged/glitched Diebold machines and foreign vote-counting firms?
    I'm fine with the electoral college. It's the bull gerrymandering that needs to be addressed. I know, it's been going on for 100 years. Time to address it. How is California's new initiative working out? Still too early to tell?
    Last edited by Th'Pusher; 01-24-2013 at 03:54 PM.

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    Those das ly Republicans. Next thing you know they will want voter ID laws.

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    ME does it? how many electoral votes?

    MI, WI, OH, FL, PA have way more than enough to rig any Pres election horribly opposite of the popular vote.

    Of course, little es TB, CC, etc don't care, EVEN CHEER FOR ELECTION RIGGING, when the election is rigged in favor of Repug assholes. They'd be "outraged" if the Dems were doing it.
    You're a ridiculous person.

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    I'm fine with the electoral college. It's the bull gerrymandering that needs to be addressed. I know, it's been going on for 100 years. Time to address it. How is California's new initiative working out? Still too early to tell?
    Good question. Might be a model. Got to look into that.....

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    What difference does it make?

    Sincerely,

    Hillary
    You still never explained what difference it made in her case.

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    Only way around like this is for the electorate to grow up, do their homework, and vote third party in droves, tbh.....
    Agreed. At least let me choose from the lesser of three evils.

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    What the is the point of even voting?
    Exactly the reason I've chose to only vote on local matters living here in CA.

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    Only way around like this is for the electorate to grow up, do their homework, and vote third party in droves, tbh.....
    That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard with respect to presidential elections. All a strong third party would do is ensure that the House picks the president when no candidate gets to 270. John Quincy Adams all over again. Then the third party will be killed off within the decade as people get sick of congress choosing the president. LOL our cons ution giving us this horse 2 party system as the only stable equilibirium.

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    For presidential election, why don't you guys implement a strict one man one vote principle ?

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    For presidential election, why don't you guys implement a strict one man one vote principle ?
    The democrats could never win if we did that.

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    For presidential election, why don't you guys implement a strict one man one vote principle ?
    As the name implies the United States is a union of states with divergent cultures and interests. A pure popular vote would favor the urban trash and disenfranchise the more rural states.

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    As the name implies the United States is a union of states with divergent cultures and interests. A pure popular vote would favor the urban trash and disenfranchise the more rural states.
    Well, not trying to imply that my country is some kinda exemplary or anything -real democracy has just started in the last 15 years, but we have it quite smoothly here regarding the representation method choice, with that strict one man one vote thing. And Indonesia is a country of diversity, we're barely a nation as of now. I think a weighed representation works well in the legislative branch of government, but for executive one, it's really a suspect for politicking or vested interest.

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    As the name implies the United States is a union of states with divergent cultures and interests. A pure popular vote would favor the urban trash and disenfranchise the more rural states.
    yet you are ok with what the VA lelgislature is doing to disenfranchise the urban trash..

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    The democrats could never win if we did that.
    Democrats have won the popular vote in five of the last six elections.

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    As the name implies the United States is a union of states with divergent cultures and interests. A pure popular vote would favor the urban trash and disenfranchise the more rural states.
    urban trash? just say n!gg@s

    why should the disappearing, vastly outnumbered, sociallistically-supported rural trash's votes count for more than urban voters? one-person, one-vote, proportional representation, with majority rule AND protection for everybody's govt-granted and govt-enforced rights.

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    Never let it be said that boutons will pass up an opportunity to hint at the N-bomb...........

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    Never let it be said that boutons will pass up an opportunity to hint at the N-bomb...........
    CC's Urban TRASH gets a pass from CG, CC apparently being a white male right-wing 1%er living in ex-urbia, if not rural. iow, he wants his and his white neighbors' votes to count more than n!gg@s votes.

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    CC's Urban TRASH gets a pass from CG, CC apparently being a white male right-wing 1%er living in ex-urbia, if not rural. iow, he wants his and his white neighbors' votes to count more than n!gg@s votes.
    Never let it be said that boutons will pass up an opportunity to hint at the N-bomb...........

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    Well, not trying to imply that my country is some kinda exemplary or anything -real democracy has just started in the last 15 years, but we have it quite smoothly here regarding the representation method choice, with that strict one man one vote thing. And Indonesia is a country of diversity, we're barely a nation as of now. I think a weighed representation works well in the legislative branch of government, but for executive one, it's really a suspect for politicking or vested interest.
    That's actually an interesting approach...an electoral college type election for the legislature and a popular vote for the exec. At first pass, I like it.

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    boutons, why are you a racist? Is it because you're a bad person?

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