Heat: Bosh: I've been a Hall of Famer like four years ago

[racm]

He's played only 4 season of which he played 60 or more games. Being a great ambassador for the game doesn't give you a free pass to the hall. If you're going to allow players like Yao in, then your going to have to build a bigger hall to let in all those players with comparable numbers. He played a total of 486 games in eight seasons.

Btw, Ray Allen definitely makes the hall, not too sure about Manu and Gasol.

Manu's chances improved when he upset Team USA (watch as BRPelican crows about Duncan not being a leader ) and won a gold, tbh

[StrengthAndHonor]

^ puh-lease go sell that snake oil to someone else..that (as the best baller alive and the man who owns the NBA) couldn't even take Lauren Perdue to the cafeteria for a ing hamburger, fries, and a shake...

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201817

I think this is where Kobe obviously has an advantage over Bron. Bron is a pansy who would be a gentleman and respect a womans request. Kobe has this remarkable killer instinct in any given situation. Kobe would trick that woman into entering his hotel room to see the city from his penthouse and once she's inside, Kobe would rough her up, jailhouse style

[Clipper Nation]

CP3 may be in the HOF but he doesn't have the credentials yet.

Rookie of the Year
The REAL 2007-08 NBA MVP ( Kirby's pity/lifetime achievement award), may finally get awarded the MVP this season
Two Olympic gold medals
2x All-NBA First Team
2x All-Defensive First Team (2x Second Team)
2x NBA assists leader
4x NBA steals leader
1st among active players in career regular season assists per game (3rd all-time behind only Stockton and Magic)
1st among active players in career postseason assists per game (again, 3rd all-time behind only Stockton and Magic)
2nd all-time in career regular season assist percentage (only behind Stockton)
3rd all-time in career regular season steals per game (behind Alvin Robertson and Micheal Ray Richardson)
7th all-time in career regular season PER
Best career offensive rating in NBA history
Only player other than John Stockton to post a top-6 season in history in assist percentage
BBRef similarity scores include Jerry West, Magic Johnson, and John Stockton
BBRef gives him a 90% chance of being inducted in the Hall of Fame

How is that not a good enough resume but Yao's is?

[StrengthAndHonor]

He's played only 4 season of which he played 60 or more games. Being a great ambassador for the game doesn't give you a free pass to the hall. If you're going to allow players like Yao in, then your going to have to build a bigger hall to let in all those players with comparable numbers. He played a total of 486 games in eight seasons.

Btw, Ray Allen definitely makes the hall, not too sure about Manu and Gasol.

This is whats wrong with today's crowd. Ray Allen is a sure HOF'er but Manu and Gasol are not?

Fellas, this is not an NBA HOF. Its comprised of the greatest basketball figures around the world.

Gasol and Manu's international resume alone makes Ray Allen's weak in comparison. I agree Ray Allen will eventually get in but he's not first ballot and it will take a while before he's inducted. Ray Allen is a class act however and he has that 3 Point Leader under his belt, so its understandable.


Back to Yao. Again, its not black and white as it seems. Its not the amount of games a player has under his belt. HOF goes deeper than that. Vitale is in there not because he's the most credible analyst or commentator. Arvydas Sabonis was a a butt of jokes in the NBA during his tenure. But he's in. Why? Because he's a legend in Europe. I'd like to think Yao brought the same amount of impact to the game of basketball and this is coming from someone who never truly appreciates Yao's game.

[apalisoc_9]

Yao is a Hof like it or not. He was Jeremy Lin x 10 in both impact and performance. No one in China even knew what a basketball is. He simply helped the league gain worldwide exposure that hasnt been done since Jordan played for the Bulls.

Basketball was already a popular sport in china even before Yao Ming, and the numbers hasn't drastically changed at all. Basketball trails Soccer by a big margin in china, but it has always been the second most popular team sport in CHINA.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Hey, you pretending to be a lifelong Clippers fan/LoyVaught's # 1 fan . Stop trolling the thread and bring something with substance.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Basketball was already a popular sport in china even before Yao Ming, and the numbers hasn't drastically changed at all. Basketball trails Soccer by a big margin in china, but it has always been the second most popular team sport in CHINA.

Proof? Do you know how many Chinese station airs NBA Live before Yao became an NBA player? Do you know how many sponsors the South East Asian sponsors the NBA has pre Yao Ming?

Yeah, you dont...

[Clipper Nation]

Hey, you pretending to be a lifelong Clippers fan/LoyVaught's # 1 fan .

Bandwagon Laker got who ditched the Clippers the minute the Lakers won a game

Stop trolling the thread and bring something with substance.

How am I trolling? CP3 is one of the all-time great point guards in this league, and you're saying his "credentials" (which I posted) don't stack up in comparison to those of Yao ing Ming

But I guess takes are to be expected from the dumbass who also brought us "Bynum never played in the Finals" and "The 2008-09 Magic were a 5th seed when they went to the Finals"

[StrengthAndHonor]

You're re ed man. Seriously. Get a ing education or something.

[Clipper Nation]

You're re ed man. Seriously. Get a ing education or something.

Yao Ming:

Didn't win Rookie of the Year
Never made All-NBA First Team
Never won MVP or even deserved to
Zero Olympic medals
Not even top 250 all time in career rebounds per game, not even top 95 in career blocks per game
486 games in eight seasons

Yep, some resume, definitely better than CP3's...

I don't give a about how much money he made for the league in China..... he most certainly isn't a Hall of Famer based on his NBA career.... international careers are just the cherry on top of an HOF resume, they can't be the whole thing

[StrengthAndHonor]

Just stupid, whatver floats your whimsical boat dude. More power to you.

[Clipper Nation]

Just stupid, whatver floats your whimsical boat dude. More power to you.

So basically you know full well that your take is ty and you want to drop the subject real quick

How is it "stupid" to say that CP3's had a better career than Yao?

[StrengthAndHonor]

What you fail to comprehend is this is not just about numbers and NBA career. Theres a reason why players like Artis Gilmore, Adrian Dantley etc didnt immediately made it while newer generation of players were inducted before them ,despite of their strong career numbers.

Theres a reason why Sabonis and Petrovic are in and why Rodman almost didn't made it. Again, this is not about numbers. CP3 will make it but at this point, its not guaranteed. He has no international credentials and his NBA career to date is not HOF worthy. An MVP award may put him but until this happens, his chances at thisn point is iffy.

[RobbyH]

Hey clips fans

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

It's not really his fault Colangelo surrounded him with bozos like Bustnani and Cal'eron, tbh.

That's irrelevant to what I said tbh

[Leetonidas]

Kind of like Tony Parker likely now making the hall of fame being the third best player on a team that won multiple championships, behind Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili. Very good player, but probably not hall of fame on his own.

I don't know, he's got some impressive seasons, 5 All-Star nods, a few All-NBA selections, and he's the first Euro to win a FMVP (inb4 Boobie Gibson comments). I'd say the FMVP alone would get him in because he was the first foreigner to win one, imo

[Clipper Nation]

Again, this is not about numbers.

Then what is it about? Your re ed "Sports Illustrated covers" criteria?

CP3 will make it but at this point, its not guaranteed. He has no international credentials

Two Olympic gold medals and you're saying he has "no international credentials," okay then...

and his NBA career to date is not HOF worthy.

It absolutely is...

[Mel_13]

He's played only 4 season of which he played 60 or more games. Being a great ambassador for the game doesn't give you a free pass to the hall. If you're going to allow players like Yao in, then your going to have to build a bigger hall to let in all those players with comparable numbers. He played a total of 486 games in eight seasons.

Btw, Ray Allen definitely makes the hall, not too sure about Manu and Gasol.

It won't give Yao a free pass, but it may very well serve as the basis of his enshrinement:

Guidelines For Nomination and Election Into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame

ELIGIBILITY
Candidates must meet the following requirements in order to be eligible for Enshrinement into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (hereafter BHOF):
.....

Contributor: A person is eligible for Enshrinement as a contributor at any time for significant contributions to the game of basketball. What cons utes a "significant contribution" shall be determined by the BHOF, its Screening Committee(s) or Honors Committee(s).

[Latarian Milton]

dude is a pivot for our team and if we continue to win 5 or more championships the coming years like we're expected to do, dude will be a locked HOF'er for the outstanding role he plays on our team. bosh is our #2 now and he for damn sure deserves to be a HOF'er as the #2 of a team that wins multiple championships tbh

[StrengthAndHonor]

Sports Illustrated was obviously a joke. Get a ing sense of humor. Olympic Medals in basketball tbh are honored as a whole team.



See 1960 and 1992 team

http://www.hoophall.com/hall-of-famers-index/

Using that as CP3's international credential is pretty weak considering he's not even the best player on those teams.

[StrengthAndHonor]

It won't give Yao a free pass, but it may very well serve as the basis of his enshrinement:

Guidelines For Nomination and Election Into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame

ELIGIBILITY
Candidates must meet the following requirements in order to be eligible for Enshrinement into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (hereafter BHOF):
.....

Contributor: A person is eligible for Enshrinement as a contributor at any time for significant contributions to the game of basketball. What cons utes a "significant contribution" shall be determined by the BHOF, its Screening Committee(s) or Honors Committee(s).

Well finally, someone gets it. The committee doesn't care if your favorite player has All Star Numbers. Its the HOF, not All NBA 1st team

[unforeseen]

TMac is closer to HOF status that Bosh right now. It can change if he wins 2 more championships. Even then, it would put him in the same category as Horace Grant.

[scanry]

I think Bosh will be a second tier HOF like Rodman.

[Koolaid_Man]

You're re ed man. Seriously. Get a ing education or something.

I know its late but ain't no one here but me, you and Clippa Nation. Go ahead and make him suck your . I won't say a gotdam word to anyone.

[StrengthAndHonor]

TMac is closer to HOF status that Bosh right now. It can change if he wins 2 more championships. Even then, it would put him in the same category as Horace Grant.

Tmac is not a HOF and he certainly isn't closer in the Hall than Bosh. Bosh at least has a championship ring. But the biggest knock on TMAC is how he ended his career. There was no prestige and frankly his at ude and work ethic will be a huge issue.