Reply With QuoteThank you for the clarification 2Cleva.
Sources: Anal intercourse rumor untrue
Randy Wyrick
Another rumor bit the dust Wednesday when sources said stories about anal intercourse between Kobe Bryant and his alleged victim are not true.
A rumor has rocketed across the country that the incident between Bryant and the 19-year-old woman Eagle woman he allegedly sexually assaulted stopped being consensual when Bryant demanded and may have tried to force anal intercourse.
Not true, sources close to the investigation told the Daily.
While sources stopped short of saying the word "anal" would not come up at the trial, they did say the story about acts of anal intercourse or demands for it were not accurate.
Sources said that when the case finally hits trial, it will center on the physical evidence, which sources call "abundant," and the assertion that the alleged victim wanted to leave the room but Bryant did not allow her to leave.
Bryant's arrest warrant included a misdemeanor count of false imprisonment. In Colorado, that means simply that someone wanted to leave an area or situation, but was physically kept from doing so.
The story is one of dozens shooting back and fourth across the country, aided by the Internet, as rumors swirl about this summer's highest profile story.
Among other rumors and reports that Daily sources declare are not true:
- The woman whom Bryant allegedly assaulted received a ride home. Not true. Reports that her clothing was torn are also untrue, sources said. Sources said that the alleged victim managed to get herself home by 11:50 p.m. June 30, after ending the shift at the Lodge at Cordillera at around 11:10 p.m. They also said that although her clothing was disheveled and showed signs that something has occurred, it wasn't torn or ripped, as some reports indicated.
- The woman made previous charges of sexual harassment against another hotel worker at the Lodge at Cordillera. Not true. Another female employee did so, which led to the termination of a Cordillera employee.
- The woman was in Kobe Bryant's room for up to two hours. Not true. She was there for about 20 minutes.
- The woman was hysterical when she returned to the hotel lobby from Bryant's room. Not true. She was in a state of shock and stupor, sources said.
- There was a large disturbance during the time of the incident. Not true.
- Eagle County Sheriff Joe Hoy is personal friends with the woman's family. Not true.
- An attorney in the District Attorney's Office is related to someone in the Eagle County attorney's office. Not true. They share the same last name as the alleged victim, but are not related and had never met.
- Physical evidence alone is enough to convict Kobe Bryant. Not true. Sources have said there is an abundance of physical evidence, although Hurlbert has steadfastly refused to comment on anything regarding the case. Hurlbert did say, though, that no part of the evidence was any more important than any other, and that it was the sum of the evidence being greater than its individual parts that convinced him to charge Bryant with one count of felony sexual assault.
- Bryant can pay off the alleged victim to get out of this. Not true. It is now a matter for the courts and beyond the control of the alleged victim, even if she wanted to call it all off.
Rumors untrue
Thank you for the clarification 2Cleva.
addidas - no problem but not many want to hear that.
Kobe being a monster makes for better headlines and it represents whats wrong with Black people. They feel they can get all moral and high and mighty with that.
Funny, these same people say they are colorblind but also say black people have issues instead of people of certain backgrounds (economic and social being more important than racial) are where the issues at.
And Kobe's problem isn't economics, social, or racial. He just messed around with a girl who has serious issues.
Just to add some balance...because certains rumors turn out to be NOT true has very little bearing on the actual case. He may yet BE a monster, or not. The justice system will determine his innocence or guilt, based on the evidence and witnesses, not what's on the front page of the Enquirer.addidas - no problem but not many want to hear that.
Kobe being a monster makes for better headlines
who says that that artcile is true?
just because it is from the daily does not make it true
Ducks - touche'. Again, its all outside sources but I do give more credibility to the Vail reports from people there than coverage from Fox and ESPN, who are just trying to get viewers.
Everytime the Vail paper has refuted something, everyone else has stopped running with it. It seems they are easiliy the most reliable source but like you said, no one on the outside really knows for sure.
Meanwhile, The Star magazine reported that Bryant gave his wife more than the $4 million diamond ring in the wake of "indiscretion."
Also on the shopping list: a $65,000 Mercedes, a $76,000 Mercedes, $125,000 earrings, an $1,800 handbag, $315 shoes and $20,000 in Versace clothes. In addition, The Star reported that Bryant paid off the $230,000 mortgage on the home of Sofia Laine, Vanessa's mother.
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that's all you need to know about the credibility of those reports...The Star magazine
BTW, Vanessa's parents live very near to a friend of mine, and from what I understand they have for most of Vanessa's life... they didn't have $230,000 left on their mortgage
2Cleva don't you get tired carrying that enormous black chip on your shoulder all the time? A white guy, Clinton, got a consensual blowjob and the media attention it created caused Kobe's ordeal to look like a walk in the park. Unless you're buying into Clinton's claim that he was the first black president. It's the person and the thing, not the race. Get over it.
2Clev, If you're loving this "source" so much... you should be worried about that little nugget right there.Sources said that when the case finally hits trial, it will center on the physical evidence, which sources call "abundant,"
they didn't have $230,000 left on their mortgage
Ok did your friend ask them what they owe on their house?
is their house not even worth 230K?
or is that just specualtion on your part trying to defend kobe.
If I made as much as kobe my wife's parents house would be paid for. I thinka person who could afford to do that should do that for his our her folks.
Writer - Definitely concerned. But if its not torn clothes, bruises, anal, or anything. It looks like its mostly vaginal tearing (easily a result from consensual sex), dna, and testimony. Without seeing the evidence, if thats all they have Kobe will get off.
The evidence has to be proof of real violence, not just sex. The DA has admitted to there being no "smoking gun" and that all of the evidence, including testimony, resulted in charges being filed.
He said/she said. And it will be alot harder to discredit Kobe, especially considering the character witnesses and there is no one stepping up from his past negatively compared to the girl who has had do ented suicide attempts (not rumor, her own college police have reported) along with friends who even trying to help her, will be toasted under cross-examination.
if you believe that arctile you have to believe that to. it is from the same sourcesSources said that when the case finally hits trial, it will center on the physical evidence, which sources call "abundant," and the assertion that the alleged victim wanted to leave the room but Bryant did not allow her to leave.
vaginal tearing easy to do without people agreeing to have sex?
really? I wonder if there is any stats to prove that is a common thing.
Ducks - Yeah, word is Kobe blocked the door but eventually let her out because she told him she would be back in 15 minutes.
It doesn't say when she wanted to leave the room. If what I heard is correct it was after sex and I guess Kobe wanted more. If it was prior, then yeah, thats a problem.
BTW - the consensual activity prior to them having intercourse wasn't just touching and kissing. Oral relations were supposedly involved. If she willing gave him oral sex, she can forget it.
But its all speculation for now until we see the trial starts and both sides of the story are heard.
Too bad for you Laker fans that rumor about Kobe being on trial for RAPE was found to be........
TRUE.
Go somewhere else if you can't handle that.
I do not want them to go away. it is good to debate.
Meanwhile, The Star magazine reported that Bryant gave his wife more than the $4 million diamond ring in the wake of "indiscretion."
Also on the shopping list: a $65,000 Mercedes, a $76,000 Mercedes, $125,000 earrings, an $1,800 handbag, $315 shoes and $20,000 in Versace clothes. In addition, The Star reported that Bryant paid off the $230,000 mortgage on the home of Sofia Laine, Vanessa's mother.
if that came from the vial paper would you laker fans believe it?
Is there a sicker sight than Laker homers defending a potential rapist and celebrating because he didn't rape her backdoor?
Imagine how foolish these people will look if he did rape her.
:vomit
ducks - personally, I do believe he bought more than the ring. Probably a lot of that stuff was things he promised his wife before but is sure to come through now that he's in trouble.
But thats between his wife and him. None of my concern.
As a Laker fan, I want to see him on the court and out of it. As a person, I want justice served. If he did it, he deserves to do time. But I am extremely skeptical of the charges and so are a whole lot of people who aren't Laker fans at all.
In fact, in few surveys do you find that more people believe he's guilty than innocent. And the very few that have had more people thinking he was guilty was right after some false info had leaked/made up by the press.
Timvp - maybe the sight of people already sentencing a man who is still innocent according to the consitution?
That was pretty cleva
You admitted, as a Laker fan, you'd want him to get off even if he's guilty.
If you don't see how disgusting that is ... :vomit
Whether or not Kobe is a fan of the Princeton offense is a moot point. If she has marks and was distraught after the fact, then he's probably going to be found guilty.
I think alot of fans think he is innocent because of his clean image. if this was ai. I think alot would have said he did it. internet polls are not very worth a crap in my book. no matter what survey you have. some let you vote 25 times. some let you vote once but if you dump your cach you can vote again.
to me it does not matter if 100 think he is innocent to one that he is gulity.Noone except for kobe and the girl knows 100% that he raped her. I think the da thinks 90% or more that he is gulity. I think them wating 3 weeks that want to make sure they can get a conviction or atleast do not look stupid. if they look stupid all those people could get FIRED.
I am not saying it is wrong to buy your wife a present to ask for forgiveness. people do it all the time. it is only like $20 to him because of how much he makes. But he must feel gulity or is trying to keep them together tell this is over ateast.
if he deserves to do TIME IN JAIL.
PORTLAND, Ore. -- The Portland Trail Blazers announced plans for a player code of conduct and lower ticket prices in a full-page ad appearing in the sports section of Thursday's Oregonian.
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maybe lakers should do that to. they have 2 starters in legal trouble
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