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    john q citizen should move to gun free Chicago and tell me how a gun free city really is.
    Well, there are a couple million there. You could probably ask around.

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    Because if they start taking away guns (rights), what's to stop them from taking other rights that john q citizen cares about?
    nothing!

    since all my cons utional rights are intact, I can still bear nuclear arms?

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    For someone who cries like a little girl when someone doesn't answer her question, you sure seem to like to avoid the ones asked to you.

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    meh
    Last edited by Winehole23; 02-07-2013 at 09:48 AM.

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    For someone who cries like a little girl when someone doesn't answer her question, you sure seem to like to avoid the ones asked to you.
    Sorry Blake, I'm not on here 24/7, I do this thing called sleeping. If you take the 2nd to mean you can bear nuclear arms, fine. I have common sense and choose not to read and understand it that way.

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    Sorry Blake, I'm not on here 24/7, I do this thing called sleeping. If you take the 2nd to mean you can bear nuclear arms, fine. I have common sense and choose not to read and understand it that way.
    You actually quoted my question and responded with a paragraph that didn't contain an answer. You can claim you were sloppy and missed it, but you can't claim sleep got in the way.

    And sorry but you also can't claim common sense when it is convenient for you. You're either all in on the 2nd Amendment or you're not in at all.

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    You're either all in on the 2nd Amendment or you're not in at all.
    false dilemma.

    nothing requires TSA, or anyone else, to hold absolutist views on the 2nd Amendment. your reductio ad absurdum falls on its face.

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    You're either all in on the 2nd Amendment or you're not in at all.

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    false dilemma.

    nothing requires TSA, or anyone else, to hold absolutist views on the 2nd Amendment. your reductio ad absurdum falls on its face.
    I think TSA has made his view of the 2nd Amendment clear enough. When I say all in, I mean he needs to go all in on his view.

    The Cons ution does not specifically define arms.

    Therefore, if TSA says I cannot bear nuclear arms, I require him to explain who the he thinks he is to proclaim his common sense is better than mine.
    Last edited by Blake; 02-07-2013 at 12:11 PM.

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    arms have been regulated from the beginning. were denied to free blacks and those unwilling to swear loyalty to the USA, for example.

    clearly the founders didn't hold the absolutist view you derive from your facetious gloss of the 2nd.

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    if you could show there has been an unrestricted right of private citizens to own artillery, you might have a leg to stand on.

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    or, TSA might have a leg to stand on, since you're essentially lampooning his view that his rights are impinged by the regulation of war armaments.

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    I'm not the one crying that they are coming for my guns that the founding fathers said I could have.

    your officiating does nobody any favors if you can't keep up.

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    online discussion threads can be tricky and posters difficult to read. you're certainly no exception to the latter, and no one to the former. everyone gets lost from time to time.

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    I think I'm pretty good about verifying someone's idiocy before declaring them an idiot.

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    2nd Amendment!

    Home Defense!

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    I think I'm pretty good about verifying someone's idiocy before declaring them an idiot.
    2nd Amendment!

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    lol serendipity.

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    I think TSA has made his view of the 2nd Amendment clear enough. When I say all in, I mean he needs to go all in on his view.

    The Cons ution does not specifically define arms.

    Therefore, if TSA says I cannot bear nuclear arms, I require him to explain who the he thinks he is to proclaim his common sense is better than mine.
    Where did I say YOU cannot bear nuclear arms, I said if that is how you read the 2nd amendment then fine. I don't read it that way

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    lol

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    Where did I say YOU cannot bear nuclear arms, I said if that is how you read the 2nd amendment then fine. I don't read it that way
    I can't bear them according to your ” common sense”.

    Or can I?

    If we agree that arms can and should be regulated, then please justifying your crying. Thanks.

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    There was actually a Repug asshole (sorry for redundancy) who said last week 2nd Amendment was about muskets for "well constipated" militia then, so 2nd Amendment means "militia" assholes can RIGHTS to ALL military arms now.

    Freedom!

    2nd Amendment!

    Water the Tree!

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    Gun industry profits! BINGO!

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    So 'they' are not coming for your guns...
    Yes, they are coming for my guns.


    Possession of hollow point bullets and similar assault bullets a felony.
    Possession of more than 500 rounds of ammo a felony.
    6 round magazine limit
    ALL magazines must be fixed to the gun (can not be removed without the use of a tool)
    100% prohibition of all magazines greater than 10 rounds. All previous grandfathered magazines become illegal. Felony if you keep one.
    Changing definition of shotgun revolving cylinder -- Basically only single shot shotguns will remain legal.
    Bullet Buttons will become illegal -- All AR and AK style rifles that are currently equipped with them will be designated Assault Weapons. Felony to possess.
    All gun owners now must be licensed like drivers.
    All gun owners must carry gun liability insurance
    Basically they have just proposed to make all semi-automatic weapons, as well as most shotguns, illegal.


    And this will probably pass due to the makeup of the legislature. Looks like I'm going to be a felon, on multiple counts. this . They're coming for my guns.

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    so 'they' are not coming for your guns...

    Let me know when they get them, and we'll resume this conversation... until then, it's all

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    I know you know CA has a super majority, so I don't see how you think it's just all talk now. If this does go through they've effectively disarmed the entire state and made anyone who keeps their guns a felon. s about to hit the fan. Can't believe you all keep saying its just talk.

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    And if they do take your guns, the rest of us should be upset because.......

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