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Pipe dream. If ATL won't trade him to Brooklyn for Kris Humphries and Marshon Brooks, why would they basically give him away for a late 1st round pick? Would never happen.
LOL that would be a steal! Our first round picks are like second round picks anyways lol.
Pipe dream. If ATL won't trade him to Brooklyn for Kris Humphries and Marshon Brooks, why would they basically give him away for a late 1st round pick? Would never happen.
I know this will seem homerish, but I'd rather have a #30 pick and an expiring than Brooks and Humphries. Humphries and Brooks are not worth close to their combined salaries next year. While a #30 pick is not that valuable, it's also a chance to sign someone for 1m a year, and you can expect to get someone who can outperform that deal.
is ferry the new jerry west?
Perhaps cause with Jax contract ending they would have more cap space. Humphries's got a 12M contract for 2 years, so it would be a bad move for the Haws. Only if they think Hump is a quality PF they need, but I dont think so.
Unless Jack has a 20% trade kicker in his contract, that trade won't work without another player(s) being shipped.
If you are referring to the Gasol (Marc/Pau) deal, Chris Wallace was the GM. West had retired from those duties by then.
You don't need to be in contact with agents to know it's true. MANY agents will throw San Antonio's name into the mix to drum up how "good" a player must be. Hey, if the Spurs want him, he must be good!
It's mostly done with free agents, but since Smith is shopping for a max deal destination, he might's well be a mid-season free agent.
The Spurs' name is frequently thrown out there to drum up additional interest lately.
crazy as it seems. i agree with you. sjax and 30 overall is better than humphries and brooks.
i base my nba theories on fantasy league stats and personal huntches. so i'd like to see a fan of the association respond to this.
humphries aint terrible, but he's a bit overpaid. sjax is clearly overpaid, but at least he's expiring. sjax ftw!
brooks on the other hand, was a 25 overall last year. he was putting up some impressive stats his rookie year, until he got hurt. this year, the nets are just being dumb. i don't know why they're playing bogans, stackhouse, or evans more than brooks. brooks would kill if they put him on the floor. brooks is exactly the late 1st value player the spurs are offering. except brooks is 2 years into his value rookie contract. spurs 1st ftw!
Bonner/Blair?
Humphries D is pretty damn bad though.
Even if it worked, the Spurs wouldn't take a $3M overburden that would throw them immediately into tax territory. At the very least, they'd insist on Bonner being included and throw the $1M he's due next year into the trade so ATL can buy him out after the season.
Yeah, if Spurs can do a trade with Jack expiring, without including Kawhi and Tiago, either Bonner will need to be included or Spurs will go into the tax territory.
I'm not sure how reluctant Hawks would be to take Bonner contract. He isn't an expiring but it's only $1M. If Hawks don't want Bonner and even if Pop said earlier this season that Spurs won't pay the tax, he might be able to sold Spurs ownership that it's worth it for Smith.
I guess Bonner would be expandable, as he doesn't play much this season and I doubt pop gives him another chance in the PO's. Josh Smith is a PF-SF, so he could replace both, Jack and Bonner. While he can't shot like Bonner, he was a dunk champ and all-defensive. The Spurs could go small without sacrificing shot blocking or rebounding. He would definitely be a terrific fit, probably the player the Spurs need to win it all.
Get him tbh!!!
I'd be ready to send one of Green who was drafted by Ferry or Tiago, 2 first rounders, SJax to make salaries match even tho I think someone like SJax is good to connect with headcases and keep them in check but there's no choice basically.
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Certainly wouldn't send out Tiago, but Jax and filler would be a no brainer. Don't expect Spurs to actually make any big moves though. So rarely happens.
Exactly, he's an expiring contract. While the Hawks should get something for him, to that end is debatable. Jackson, Blair and pick one of De Colo, Neal, Joseph.
Is Ferry going to go Jerry West for Pop?
Some signs are on the wall.
I was thinking this had zero chance at first, but things that I am hearing now give it more credibility...one player may be getting in the way, and it isn't Splitter or Leonard.
Still not going to hold my breath
Well if the Spurs feel they have to move Jax please move him the away from the West. If the spurs were going to trade for Big Al I can just see a Spurs-jazz first round series and Jax lighting us up. Same goes for Neal tbh.
Trade rumors like this are such a tease. It gives us hope, only to be let down again tbh. I'd welcome it with open arms but I'm 90% sure the Spurs will stand pat as usual.
i'm sitting here comparing green to ray allen in another thread. but i'd rather the spurs send green and blair with sjax and the 1st. we know ferry likes green. bonner is serviceable. he doesn't mind sitting on the bench. he knows the system. he can still be amnestied this summer? or at least cut for pretty cheap.
i'm not like everybody else in here, i actually believe in decolo and mills. shipping green means more pt for both. neal and cojo can split 3rd string.
this summer. jackson and green won't be a cap issue = +13 mill. no guaranteed contract 1st = +1 mill. neal not re-signed = +1 mill. options with bonner = +3-2 mill. manu at half this years deal = +7 mill. if splitter is happy enough here to give the spurs a discount -7-10 mill. = 12-14 mill this summer to offer smith.
i think smith would re-sign here. and i'm not a nay sayer about smith. he'd be worth it. the spurs would turn him into timmy. tp, kl, js, td, and ts with the bench core of manu, decolo, diaw = back to back champhionships! timmy one ups big dave again, with an option to do what michael friggin jordan did. go out as 3 peat champion.
i think this is the move we all don't see coming. we all know ferry has a boner for green, i think he'd risk unleashing a 2 or 3 year reign of spurs dominance. ivan johnson and pachulia make for good blair insurance. except for johnson, they're all just stand ins. the hawks will have a big 3 of teague, horford, and green. add 3 1st rounders and crazy cap space, probably for howard? who knows?
set at guard, quality big, and young as . ferry is trying to make the 13-14 hawks, into the 12-13 rockets. i think that's his motivation.
I don't think you can give them Green. The wing defense is already taking a hit by sending out Jack. That leaves good defenders in Kawhi and Manu, who can only play limited minutes, and the detritus: DeColo, Mills, and Neal. None of them can really defend worth a .
If the Spurs can get Smith without trading Tim, Manu, Tony, Leonard and Splitter they have to do it. Would also be nice not to trade Green and Diaw.
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