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    But it sure takes the attack dogs away from their prey...
    The "prey" can defend itself.

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    The "prey" can defend itself.
    Wasn't defending. If you couldn't discern - I don't subscribe to religion so it wasn't about defending their position - it was to point out that the "skeptic" side was no better. Especially when you see the skeptics bashing the believers.

    Why should bullies be allowed to continue bullying and rallying and taking a superior stance because they outnumber someone?

    In a nuts - that is it.

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    Isn't it wonderful that we are no different and just brainwashed differently?

    I really enjoy the fact that I am no better than anyone else and if being labeled a " ing idiot" illustrates just how alike we are - I am tickled pink!

    It is so wonderful. I feel pretty responsible for reducing you yet again to nothing more than an angry name-caller but I think I can live with it since we are so alike and I am sure I have had my moments of blindness like you.
    at least you're consistent with the way you side step the questions and then label me brainwashed.

    You're a ing idiot.

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    Why should bullies be allowed to continue bullying and rallying and taking a superior stance because they outnumber someone?
    Because your argument(s) won't stop them from speaking their mind.

    (Defending a group doesn't necessarily mean subscribing to its beliefs, for the record.)

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    Explained many times: Because god


    God exists. That a claim. To evaluate the claim, ask yourself if there is any evidence supporting that claim. No? Then don't believe the claim is true until there is corroborating evidence. It's literally that simple.

    love
    Why do you keep repeating this stupid claim? Love is a result of chemical processes in the brain. It is known what causes it and why it occurs.

    buddha/sufi/
    You're just posting random things at this point.

    freedom/peace/
    Nothing unexplained, unknown or unknowable about these things.

    joy
    A mental state.

    etc... is a in' mystery.So you cannot apply logic to something that is unexplained/unknown/unknowable/
    The whole point of burden of proof is to evaluate the unknown. It is perfect for this situation, just like it is perfect for any other situation where somebody makes a claim.

    ...how many different ways can it be said. It is self-evident.
    No, it isn't self-evident. You still haven't give any reason why one can't use logic.

    It is like thinking you can solve a math formula by reciting lines of Shakespeare. It does not apply.
    False analogy.

    Again you're an idiot. God's a mystery? Okay, then, an infinite amount of things are a mystery. That doesn't mean that we should just believe in bull . Burden of proof does apply, like it always does in any situation where somebody makes a claim.

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    Why should bullies be allowed to continue bullying and rallying and taking a superior stance because they outnumber someone?

    In a nuts - that is it.
    How do you know who the bullies really are?

    You don't.

    You're a ing idiot.

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    And I take a superior stance because it is superior, not because there are more like-minded people on here.

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    God exists. That a claim. To evaluate the claim, ask yourself if there is any evidence supporting that claim. No? Then don't believe the claim is true until there is corroborating evidence. It's literally that simple.

    Who says God exists? What is God? Who is God? None of these will even matter until you first figure out - who YOU are. Who put you together? Who installed the program in your brain for you to be functioning this way? Or - in other words- who programmed/brainwashed you?

    Those questions should be dealt with -----BEFORE---- you even think of dealing with - Does God exist? Who is God? What is God? What was God before humans arrived on this planet?


    None of those matter until you discover who programmed you and who is living inside you now.


    Why do you keep repeating this stupid claim? Love is a result of chemical processes in the brain. It is known what causes it and why it occurs.

    What you described is DESIRE -which is not love.



    You're just posting random things at this point. Nothing random. God/love/freedom are one and the same thing - human beings just use different names/labels



    Nothing unexplained, unknown or unknowable about these things. Then explain them.



    A mental state.



    The whole point of burden of proof is to evaluate the unknown. It is perfect for this situation, just like it is perfect for any other situation where somebody makes a claim.

    They do not apply when no one on the entire planet has ever correctly defined what God/love is. You can't apply conventional/human logic/formulas to an unexplained mystery. Waste of time.
    Like trying to teach a Pig to sing. It only wastes your time- and it in' irritates the Pig.
    But go ahead and spend your time trying to argue an unexplainable mystery with human logic/tools/formulas.




    No, it isn't self-evident. You still haven't give any reason why one can't use logic.
    Circles and wasting time on blind people.



    False analogy.

    Again you're an idiot. God's a mystery? Okay, then, an infinite amount of things are a mystery. That doesn't mean that we should just believe in bull . Burden of proof does apply, like it always does in any situation where somebody makes a claim.

    It might apply to you because you refuse to admit that in matters of God/love we are all blind - but if you believe that you are the exception -then take all the time out of your busy life to apply meaningless formulas to an unsolvable mystery. Good luck!

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    How do you know who the bullies really are?

    You don't.

    You're a ing idiot.
    The usual suspects...lemme see...off the top of my head...go to the thread where Wild Cobra was unaware of the Dirk Diggler reference...ok...

    now go through that thread and see all the posters in that thread and get their names...

    yup...

    the Usual Suspects...ganging up...surprise surprise...same insults, same posters, same superiority complex....

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    The usual suspects...lemme see...off the top of my head...go to the thread where Wild Cobra was unaware of the Dirk Diggler reference...ok...

    now go through that thread and see all the posters in that thread and get their names...

    yup...

    the Usual Suspects...ganging up...surprise surprise...same insults, same posters, same superiority complex....
    I'm saying that in our country, it's the Christians that are bullies.

    But you don't see it because you're blind and brainwashed into thinking Christianity is a religion of love, peace, and tolerance.

    Because you're a ing idiot.

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    Theists.

    What is God? Who is God?
    Depends on the theist.

    None of these will even matter until you first figure out - who YOU are. Who put you together? Who installed the program in your brain for you to be functioning this way? Or - in other words- who programmed/brainwashed you?
    I am not brainwashed, so let's address the God question.


    What you described is DESIRE -which is not love.
    Absolutely and utterly wrong. LOVE is a result of chemical processes in the brain. It is not some unknowable thing. Sexual attraction is a result of chemical processes, too. There have been studies done about this. Are you next going to claim that these studies don't matter because <insert bull reason>?

    They do not apply when no one on the entire planet has ever correctly defined what God/love is.
    Love has been defined. And I am going by the most common definitions of God. What you are claiming now is absolute conjecture.

    You can't apply conventional/human logic/formulas to an unexplained mystery.
    Yes, I absolutely can. Just because a claim is potentially unfasifiable doesn't change the fact that IT IS A CLAIM, AND CLAIMS HAVE TO MEET THEIR BURDENS OF PROOF BEFORE THEY ARE ACCEPTED AS TRUE. PERIOD.

    But go ahead and spend your time trying to argue an unexplainable mystery with human logic/tools/formulas.
    Go ahead with your special pleading and contradictory arguments.

    It might apply to you because you refuse to admit that in matters of God/love we are all blind - but if you believe that you are the exception -then take all the time out of your busy life to apply meaningless formulas to an unsolvable mystery. Good luck!
    The fact that something might be unsolvable does not make it any more likely to be true. Claiming that God exists is still a CLAIM, and one must provide support for that claim. That's it and that's all. God doesn't get a special exemption. The only rational reason to believe in God is because there has been sufficient proof for its existence. Believing at any other point is irrational.

    Your sanctimonious, nonsensical act is getting boring, now.

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    And Wild Cobra gets called a ing idiot because he's a ing idiot, day after day after black surgeon fearing day.

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    Theists. So go argue with a theist. (Just as blind as you and I by the way)



    Depends on the theist. Argue over whichever 'god" you decide to argue over.



    I am not brainwashed, so let's address the God question.

    You most certainly are and even worse- you aren't even aware of it. Like the man in a dream who doesn't realize he is in a dream.



    Absolutely and utterly wrong. LOVE is a result of chemical processes in the brain. It is not some unknowable thing. Sexual attraction is a result of chemical processes, too. There have been studies done about this. Are you next going to claim that these studies don't matter because <insert bull reason>?


    100 people will give you 100 definitions of love. lol


    Love has been defined. And I am going by the most common definitions of God. What you are claiming now is absolute conjecture.
    See above


    Yes, I absolutely can. Just because a claim is potentially unfasifiable doesn't change the fact that IT IS A CLAIM, AND CLAIMS HAVE TO MEET THEIR BURDENS OF PROOF BEFORE THEY ARE ACCEPTED AS TRUE. PERIOD.
    In a logic 101 class maybe- but I got news for you...whatever "god" is...he/she/it wouldn't be in the same classroom.


    Go ahead with your special pleading and contradictory arguments.


    The fact that something might be unsolvable does not make it any more likely to be true. Claiming that God exists is still a CLAIM, and one must provide support for that claim. That's it and that's all. God doesn't get a special exemption. The only rational reason to believe in God is because there has been sufficient proof for its existence. Believing at any other point is irrational.

    Your sanctimonious, nonsensical act is getting boring, now.

    WAKE UP!!!!!!

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    And Wild Cobra gets called a ing idiot because he's a ing idiot, day after day after black surgeon fearing day.


    Never defended him - just showed you who the usual suspects consisted of and they are always in the same thread and on the same side and none of them ever really know wtf they are talking about - sound familiar? Yup - just like you.

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    Problem for you is that you don't know that he isn't already awake and you're the one that's asleep.

    So again, according to you, you yourself need to stfu/big font.

    But again you won't. Because again, you're a hypocritical ing idiot.

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    Never defended him - just showed you who the usual suspects consisted of and they are always in the same thread and on the same side and none of them ever really know wtf they are talking about - sound familiar? Yup - just like you.
    Wild Cobra is a ing idiot.

    you're a ing idiot.

    most everyone here knows what I'm talking about and why you two are in fact, ing idiots.

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    This moron should start a cult with his fringe, faux-enlightened bull .

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    This moron should start a cult with his fringe, faux-enlightened bull .

    This is what blind people who refuse to see always say. I gave you truth here today and all you can do is miss it because of your brainwashing and your blindness.

    Tragic but completely expected.

    On the contrary - when I first sighted these truths - I remained open - and at first I thought I was crazy. Then you realize that we are living in an insane asylum and we are all crazy. Living on crazy false beliefs. Beliefs that are programmed so deeply into us that we see them as facts.

    If I have time or if I feel like it later I might break you down later to show you exactly how you were programmed/brainwashed.

    Even after I show you- you will still refuse to see. Pretty common when dealing with brainwashed people.

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    This is what blind people who refuse to see always say. I gave you truth here today and all you can do is miss it because of your brainwashing and your blindness.
    spoken like a true cult leader.

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    spoken like a true cult leader.
    Responding like a true blind and deaf sleeping person.

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    Responding like a true blind and deaf sleeping person.
    No I'm not, Koresh.

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    I was referencing the sub population of pastors > avg american salary. That is an incredibly small data set, Capt. Graph.
    aaaah gotcha.

    So some people getting away with special treatment is ok?

    I would agree, it isn't a hgure problem, other than making sure our tax system is as fair and equitable.

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    aaaah gotcha.

    So some people getting away with special treatment is ok?

    I would agree, it isn't a hgure problem, other than making sure our tax system is as fair and equitable.
    Nah. It's not ok. I agree with you....the whole special treatment thing should be examined from the tax perspective.

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    Well Germany isn't filled with people over-obsessed with religion and sentimental bull , so it's no surprise their tax system actually taxes income.

    No one makes the connection, but it's also why Germany and other secular countries don't believe in faith-based economics (what Republicans refer call "supply side economics"), aka the belief that cutting the amount of money rich people (who Republicans refer to as "job creators") have to pay to the government will somehow increase the amount of government revenue (because that makes completely logical sense). Religion is the root of why Americans believe so many illogical things compared to other 1st world countries.
    I agree. We make scientific discoveries and advancments in this country despite the religious nutters. At some level irrational beliefs have got to take some toll on your ability to deal with reality, IMO.

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    I am watching a film called Into The Abyss which is a doco about two blokes on death row.

    One of them says he has repented for his sins and he's going to heaven. What I don't understand is that christianity forgives anything you've done if you repent before death.... can anyone explain to me why this religion makes it so if a person who murders multiple people (or whatever) but repents its fine.. but if you are not religious you will go to even if you're a good person
    I think people think of the word "repent" in the wrong way. It has to be from the heart, real, and not for self preservation.

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