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Btw, Kobe's multiple blocks on Lebron were much more impressive tbh
LOL at the overreaction by Midnight Pulp tbh... We're talking about a 7-8 playoff seed. If he was the greatest SG at the moment, his team would be a couple slots higher just based on that fact alone. But the sun shines even on a dog's a$$ every once in awhile so this explosion was bound to happen. Volume chucking will periodically result in a high scoring and ostensibly effecient night every so often. Big whoop.
Btw, Kobe's multiple blocks on Lebron were much more impressive tbh
I know a certain top 3 SG of all time that couldn't take his team in the playoffs in his prime.A player can't do it all himself,you're being harsh on Harden.
"Leave Harden alone! Whaaaaaa!"
^Now you're just being re ed tbh.
LOL, so you are a fan of overreaction threads? I mean, I don't know if you were around when Tony Delk scored 50 in a game, but that stuff happens. That output did not make Tony Delk a top 10 or even 20 guard. Harden goes off every once in awhile but come on. Until his performance contributes to raising his team from the basement (with an already great supporting cast i.e. Lin), I am not going to be impressed.
You have to be a real ing re if you think Harden has a great supporting cast. Harden doesn't just "go off once in a while", he does it every game. Lin is the most inconsistent player on the team. He's the one that has good games every once in a while. And who is the great supporting cast? He has no legit number 2 option or star, no legit power forward, and an offensively challenged center.
The Rockets would be in top 5 picks without Harden.
I hope you're trolling.
No he doesn't. Prior to last night, Harden was shooting 27% from the field this year against OKC. They basically had his head in the toilet the entire first 2 games. He was 3-16 in the first game and had SEVEN of his shots blocked. Having said that, he's really, really good.
I was talking about for the season.
I remember when he came to OKC out of college the report on him was that he was a court savvy player, but lacking in some physical aspects, including athleticism. Seems the concensus was that he was NBA ready, but his ceiling wasn't real high. Never saw him turning into this type of player.
I think Dwayne Wade is still better, but James Harden has surpassed Kobe Bryant imo due to Kobe's decline. Harden's not as good as Kobe was, but he's better than Kobe is now.
Like I said when the trade happened, the Rockets in stole this guy. Told y'all Harden was worth a max deal. He was a max player just waiting to get enough offensive touches to show it. Harden is, and was better than Westbrook.
Funny thing is, Wade is 31 and the decline is setting in. It's very possible Harden will be the "without much argument" best SG in the NBA by as early as next season. If he lights it up for the rest of the season and gets to the second round over say, his former team the Thunder. . .Harden will surpass Wade as best SG even this year.
Rockets fans really got themselves a great player to watch for the forseeable future. Thunder ed up bigtime. All over not wanting to pay an extra 1m a year. Sad.
LOL this is a more re ed take than the average TDMVPDPOY postwell done.
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LMAO @ Tony Delk
Just a terrible overall take.
I'd probably agree, but I also think quality SGs are in short supply in today's NBA. There used to be a wealth of talent at SG in the late 90s, early 2000s. Kobe, VC, Iverson, T-Mac. Ray Allen. Even to a lesser extent, guys like Allan Houston, Sprewell, Finley, Hamilton. Even if they weren't great, great players, there were quality players and quality depth at SG across the league. After the main three of Harden, Wade, and Kobe, and maybe other aging guys like Joe Johnson and Ginobili, who are the next best group of younger SGs? Afflalo? Klay Thompson? Brandon Roy's knees exploded. Tyreke Evans doesn't seem to want to be that next young guy. DeMar DeRozan? Evan Turner?
Look at some of the starting SGs on some of the better teams in the league. Two teams, Knicks and Clippers, start aging former PGs in Kidd and Billups at SG. Couple other teams, OKC and Memphis, start defensive specialists in Sefolosha and Tony Allen.
The shooting guard position has regressed over the past decade. When the SG position used to be a glorified position since the Jordan days, it has shifted to SF with the LeBron and Durants. The promising young wing players in the league are now taller and longer. Guys like Paul George and Batum and Gallinari. And young PGs are more and more becoming primary scorers, like Rose and Westbrook and Kyrie and John Wall. It's making the SG position less important. That's why good teams can fill that starting position and most of the minutes at SG with defensive specialists or just spot up shooters. The SG position in today's NBA is just not as impressive as it used to be.
And while Harden might be and probably is the best SG in today's NBA while Kobe is getting deeper into the twilight of his career, it is interesting to note that across the board, the two players have extremely similar if not near identical statistics on the season.
Lin is great. It is Djohn who is the re and racist if he doesn't appreciate what that ricerocket racer has done for his team and the NBA. Don't forget he also has Parsons and Asik, way above average players, and potential all stars for years to come. Truth.
They used to call Delk "Buckets" cause he could score like butter. That didn't make him the best SG in the league tho. Same with Harden. One 46 point revenge splooge against his old team doesn't make him Kobe or even Manu tbh... He needs to win something first. He's not even close this year.
Holy who is this guy?
I am the bringer of truth to the unbelievers tbh. Get used to it.
Damn, I tought Harden would be traded to Phoenix.
azcentral.com said that Harden's willing to be a Sun.
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Hard to believe the Thunder traded away James Harden so they could keep both Perkins and Ibaka. They only need one of those guys, mainly Ibaka.
i'd still take wade who is a far better defender, but harden is awesome.
Harden is a great player, but only haters would take him ahead of Kobe
Considering injuries, Kobe has had a worse supporting cast than Harden this year. They play the same role on their teams, but Kobe is a proven playoff legend. Harden has to prove himself in big games first.
I can only imagine what Kobe could do if refs treated him like they treat Harden too.
harden is already the best SG in the league. in the past few years it had been kobe, wade, and roy at the top. kobe and wade are too old now and roy suffered the blazers' curse. joe johnson and ginobili never really cracked the top 3. harden will remain the best SG for some time, no one else is really in the pipeline. the point guard spot is the future.
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