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    True, although that assumes that another team claims him. Even if claimed, it's not likely to be for much more than the minimum, and they're still looking at paying 3M to create 1M in cap space.
    Nope. Spurs would only have to paid the guaranteed part of his salary.

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    Nope. Spurs would only have to paid the guaranteed part of his salary.
    As usual, you're right. I had the part about partially guaranteed contracts completely backwards.

    So, in the scenario you describe, it becomes exceedingly unlikely that any team bids on Bonner, but the Spurs would only have to pay 1M to create 1M in cap space. So, the benefit to the Spurs is obvious.

    It does, however, beg the question: What's in it for Bonner? He gets the 1M either way, but without the additional agreement he becomes a free agent on July 1st. With the agreement it could be two weeks later.

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    It does, however, beg the question: What's in it for Bonner? He gets the 1M either way, but without the additional agreement he becomes a free agent on July 1st. With the agreement it could be two weeks later.
    Bonner could do it as a nice gesture for Spurs after 7 years with them but, if it's not enough, Spurs could add incentives to it:
    - They can change the schedule payment of his guaranteed money. Instead of getting the $1M over the time period defined in his contract, he would receive it as soon as he is waive.
    - Spurs increased his guaranteed part. They can, for example, raise it from $1M to $1.2M.

    If both sides are smart, they should work something out. It shouldn't be that hurtful for Bonner free agency stock: Spurs can let it know they will amnesty him before the July Moratorium and officially amnesty him on the first day after it.
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    Bonner could do it as a nice gesture for Spurs after 7 years with them but, if it's not enough, Spurs could have incentives to it:
    - They can change the schedule payment of his guaranteed money. Instead of getting the $1M over the time period defined in his contract, he would receive it as soon as he is waive.
    - Spurs increased his guaranteed part. They can, for example, raise it from $1M to $1.2M.

    If both sides are smart, they should work something out. It shouldn't be that hurtful for Bonner free agency stock: Spurs can let it know they will amnesty him before the July Moratorium and officially amnesty him on the first day after it.
    Ok, you've convinced me that a Bonner amnesty is a realistic possibility.

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    Bonner could do it as a nice gesture for Spurs after 7 years with them but, if it's not enough, Spurs could have incentives to it:
    - They can change the schedule payment of his guaranteed money. Instead of getting the $1M over the time period defined in his contract, he would receive it as soon as he is waive.
    - Spurs increased his guaranteed part. They can, for example, raise it from $1M to $1.2M.

    If both sides are smart, they should work something out. It shouldn't be that hurtful for Bonner free agency stock: Spurs can let it know they will amnesty him before the July Moratorium and officially amnesty him on the first day after it.
    Do you really think that Spurs will amnesty Bonner ? Pop loves him, even though he's playing less and less minutes since the beginning of the season. It's not very Spurs-esque to amnesty a guy like Bonner.

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    Also, Bonner can extend his deadline to help facilitate a trade. McDyess did that a couple of years ago (but the Spurs just ended up waiving him). If they don't think they'll have significant cap room this summer, trading him may make more sense than freeing up a million dollars.

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    Do you really think that Spurs will amnesty Bonner ? Pop loves him, even though he's playing less and less minutes since the beginning of the season. It's not very Spurs-esque to amnesty a guy like Bonner.
    This IMO.

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    Do you really think that Spurs will amnesty Bonner ? Pop loves him, even though he's playing less and less minutes since the beginning of the season. It's not very Spurs-esque to amnesty a guy like Bonner.
    I don't see why it would be unSpurslike to amnesty Bonner.

    Bonner will be either amnestied, waived or traded. He isn't worth the $3M it will cost to keep him.

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    Baynes is doing great in the scrub league game that's on right now.

    Blocking shots, rebounding, scoring and even passing the ball...

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    Baynes had a pretty good game, a double double and a few very nice put-back dunks. Plays hard, but does seem to be trying to adjust to the game speed and where he has to be at times. Seems comfortable with his mid-range shot or banging in the post.

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    I don't see why it would be unSpurslike to amnesty Bonner.

    Bonner will be either amnestied, waived or traded. He isn't worth the $3M it will cost to keep him.
    Spurs organization is often very kind with their historic players. Even though Bonner is not a very important player on the court, he seems to be appreciated by the team. I know Bruce Bowen has been traded for Richard Jefferson in the past but Bonner should be really loved here to be still on this team, even after many years of playoffs struggles.

    If I understand what you're supposing, Bonner will be moved this summer because the Spurs will have cap room for the first time for a while. This could explain why he hasn't been waved in the past.

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    Spurs organization is often very kind with their historic players. Even though Bonner is not a very important player on the court, he seems to be appreciated by the team. I know Bruce Bowen has been traded for Richard Jefferson in the past but Bonner should be really loved here to be still on this team, even after many years of playoffs struggles.

    If I understand what you're supposing, Bonner will be moved this summer because the Spurs will have cap room for the first time for a while. This could explain why he hasn't been waved in the past.
    I think the writings on the wall, giving Bonner is mostly a spectator this year.

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    I'm going to the Toro's game tomorrow night, I wonder if Baynes will be recalled for the Spurs' game against the Nuggets?

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    Free Baynes already.

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    wow ... that Baynes tip dunk was nasty

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    Aron is as stone-faced as Kawhi, emotionless.

    Tim, Tiago, and an integrated Aron as the playoff rotation front-court would be wonderful. I'm disappointed that Pop is so conservative, slow in integrating arrivals into the system. Kawhi was an exception. I really can't see how missing out on pre-season practices excludes a player for an entire season.
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    Don't forget Diaw.. Baynes Diaw off the bench would be sweet IMO.. But no, We have to watch Bonner and Blair stank it up.

    Pop should just throw Baynes into the fire.

    I understand Baynes makes mistakes, but they can be attributed to him being a rookie...
    What's the Turd Towers fukin excuse?
    Lack of Talent/Height?

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    I think the writings on the wall, giving Bonner is mostly a spectator this year.
    Grief counselors are standing by.
    A group of them will be available at a future PollyAnna Popper bash.
    You're being brave about this now but let it out schtikkk.

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    Baynes should in no way be seeing minutes for the Spurs this season because it would be unfair to players like Bonner and Blair that know the system.

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    I don't see why it would be unSpurslike to amnesty Bonner.

    Bonner will be either amnestied, waived or traded. He isn't worth the $3M it will cost to keep him.

    I agree with you on this one but never underestimate the persuasiveness of a properly cooked T-bone steak on the BBQ grill. Added with a chilled bottle it's almost insurmountable.


    may to and .

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    Baynes should in no way be seeing minutes for the Spurs this season because it would be unfair to players like Bonner and Blair that know the system.
    Whatever the reasoning behind Pop not throwing Baynes in there at this point in the season, I ing hate it. I assume at least part of it is that Pop feels like he would have to shrink down the playbook a certain amount to accommodate Baynes' lack of familiarity, and he feels like what would be lost with that sacrifice would be greater than any benefit Baynes' height and rebounding would bring. Of course, from Spurfan's perspective, the quality of play drops off so precipitously when Turd Towers are on the court that it feels crazy not to be working Baynes in at this point. His size alone seems to change the dynamic when he's on the court, helping with rebounding and decreasing the ease with which other teams drive to the basket.

    I admit it's naive as , but until the playoffs start with Baynes nowhere in sight, I'm holding out the hope that this is a CIA Pop move, that he's keeping Baynes as a secret weapon he'll unleash just before the playoffs, as part of the backup big rotation. Even just 10 minutes a game could really help shore up the defense and rebounding when Timmy and Tiago aren't on the court. Seems unlikely but In Pop We Trust.

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    Baynes should in no way be seeing minutes for the Spurs this season because it would be unfair to players like Bonner and Blair that know the system.
    which is "systematically" on the bench in the playoffs

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    which is "systematically" on the bench in the playoffs
    Sitting on the bench is hard, you have to scrunch in there with all those big guys and then you have to high five people when they get to the huddle.

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    Whatever the reasoning behind Pop not throwing Baynes in there at this point in the season, I ing hate it. I assume at least part of it is that Pop feels like he would have to shrink down the playbook a certain amount to accommodate Baynes' lack of familiarity, and he feels like what would be lost with that sacrifice would be greater than any benefit Baynes' height and rebounding would bring. Of course, from Spurfan's perspective, the quality of play drops off so precipitously when Turd Towers are on the court that it feels crazy not to be working Baynes in at this point. His size alone seems to change the dynamic when he's on the court, helping with rebounding and decreasing the ease with which other teams drive to the basket.

    I admit it's naive as , but until the playoffs start with Baynes nowhere in sight, I'm holding out the hope that this is a CIA Pop move, that he's keeping Baynes as a secret weapon he'll unleash just before the playoffs, as part of the backup big rotation. Even just 10 minutes a game could really help shore up the defense and rebounding when Timmy and Tiago aren't on the court. Seems unlikely but In Pop We Trust.
    Totally agree. Was being sarcastic. It's absurd. Same thing that happened to Splitter in 2011.

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