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Only pussies & assholes complain about the officiating.
It did sound soft, he knew it when he said it ...that's why he later said "uhhm I'm not whining" ... when u have to declare u are not doing something ... you probably are. He also said "I don't like that question" when asked why Bulls play them tough and had to ask for time to calculate his thoughts ...don't consider him articulate but compared to some of the others in the NBA ..I guess so. Funny thing is he, Kobe and KG speak better than most of the former college players in the NBA.
I do agree some of it was to get future calls, some of it was reporters "leading him that way" and some of it was -made. He was visibly frustrated as evidenced by thee shoulder charge in to Boozer which was not a basketball play either ... who would "teach" anyone to set screens that way? I dont think he is a pussy he just seems that his menatlity is weak at times. Good thing for him and Heat fans that he is so physically stong (a la Shaq or Wilt) being mentally soft doesnt matter when you are faster/stronger than evryone else.
Not sure many teams are tough enough to match what the Bulls did to the Heat and Lebron despite allof this still had a great game.
Last edited by Killakobe81; 03-28-2013 at 07:28 AM.
Only pussies & assholes complain about the officiating.
Yeah, that Hinrich one wasn't a flagrant. LeBron is gonna try to bulldoze you even when you wrap him up or have position on him. You can't expect Hinrich to just let him go because LeBron is gonna try to score through him.
What BS. Hinrich grabbing with 2 hands and pulling him to the ground (as Lebron claims)? Are you serious? Yeah he fouled him, but Hinrich was just wrapping him up, pedaling backwards. What a pussy Lebron James is. And Gibson's foul on him was a legit hard foul in which he was making a play on the ball.
The defender didn't have position for that wrap up, but Lebron was already 13 points back so it didn't really matter. I'd say the foul on Kurt was more important than the fact Lebron wasn't able to score.
No more soft than Kobe whining about coming down on someone's foot.
Back in the 80s and 90's Teams like Detroit and New York and most of the whole league for that matter would of had this fool crying himself out of the league. Will this dude ever grow up? I doubt it, not with the way the NBA pampers him.
He has a mind of a 12 year old.
Guy forgets he's a 6'9 freight train. Guys try grabbing his arm(s) and it doesn't work. It's certainly treatment that the unstoppable receive, so take it as a complement and move on if you're not badly hurt.
tee, hee.
That's because you heard the TnT fellows say that first, D.
ha, ha.
Damn, no Heat fan gonna respond to this tradegy of no calls bestowed on Bron Bron?
wonder how the king would explain his barreling into boozer on that pick - is that defense ?
I don't think his issue was so much about the fact that hard fouls happen to him. If you listened to his whole interview, he basically said sometimes it gets a little frustrating, but that it's not really that big of a deal.
It seemed like his bigger issue was that when he does something to defend himself against the excessive physicality, he gets re ed flagrants and crap called on him. That flagrant they called last night was bogus. I can see a technical, but a flagrant? That was trash.
If you are going to say that "by definition, it was a flagrant", then you could say the exact same about what Hinrich and Gibson did, since by definition a flagrant is "unnecessary contact". Was it really necessary to get low and basically do a tackle move on Lebron? Was it really necessary to stick your arm out and rake Lebron across the neck when you had absolutely no chance to make any play on the ball?
Personally, I don't think either of them should have been called flagrants, just that if you believe Lebron's foul was a flagrant, then theirs should have been flagrants too.
League is soft. Players today are soft. But I don't think LeBron's comments are a big deal. Players are free to feel and say what they want. But in today's era of media scrutiny, every single thing a player does or says gets criticized and often blown out of proportion. I didn't have a problem with what Kobe said about Dhantay Jones. I don't have a problem with what LeBron said about the Bulls. Of course, I'd prefer all of these players, superstars or scrubs alike, would just shut up and play. But reporters are in their faces before, during, and after every game. There are cameras on them even on off days and at practices. And all of those reporters are just waiting on tippy-toes for that one quote they can twist into a story and make it as controversial as possible. It is what it is.
In many ways, I'd like it more if ESPN and all the media outlets would get out of their faces so much. Don't mic them up during games. Don't have intermission interviews with players and coaches. Don't allow a million reporters in the lockerroom. Just keep it to the local reporters and one or two national guys. Let it be more about the game and just the game. But it seems like the media and plenty of fans want that extra added access into the minds of these players. And then those same fans are quick to about these players. Is LeBron a for his comments? Maybe. But the reality is his comments were not a big deal at all. Let him think what he wants to think. And let him speak his mind. No matter what these players say, someone out there will criticize them for it.
lol Lebron retaliated in this game.
Jammie with some good here. There is still remants of greatness in the NBA, in all the major sports, but, it's waning and going away at an alarming rate.
[Symbolism over substance.] Cosell warned us of this danger shortly before his death. He was very accurate.
Lebron gets less calls than any star perimeter player in the NBA, it's sad..he shoots more in the paint than Durant and Kobe, and just as much as Harden, yet he gets less free throw attempts per game than all 3 of them, tbh..
That wasn't even his complaint, he's angry about the double-standard, which is completely valid..
It's comical that most fans that don't actually watch full games are under the impression that Miami gets favourable calls, when in reality, they wouldn't even make the top 5 this season, tbh..
LeBron is a victim of his own greatness and the language of the flagrant foul rule, specifically the word "unnecessary."
When LeBron gets fouled, he's often bigger and stronger or he's more athletic or he's more talented or all three than the guy fouling him and he can make an and-one if they deliver a normal foul. Players cannot foul LeBron the same way they would say a guy like Mario Chalmers. So, you can argue it is "necessary" to deliver harder fouls on LeBron from preventing him from making the basket compared to if the defender just gave a normal foul. It's precisely the same thing Shaq had to deal with.
With LeBron's foul on Boozer last night, was it necessary for LeBron to foul Boozer the way he did? They're basically the same size. You could see it in LeBron's face as he braced himself to deliver his shoulder into Boozer and then extended his arm afterwards. Necessary? I can see how the officials viewed it as unnecessary. Unnecessary foul at the discretion and interpretation of the officials, and you get a flagrant on LeBron. I wouldn't have given LeBron a flagrant. But by the language of the rule, I can see why it was called.
Is it fair to LeBron? No. But the rule and the language is unfair for any bigger and stronger player against any smaller and weaker players. The smaller, weaker player can always deliver a much harder foul on the bigger, stronger player and get away with it compared to vice versa. LeBron has to realize that.
If the NBA called fouls on Lebron the same as everyone else in the league, he would average damn near 20 FTA a game.
well they are makn sure he earns them ft freebies
hence is stern going to fine the clown for calling out the refs?
Agreed...Shaq would of shot more as well. Some great points in here. I dont have issue with Lebron speaking of the double standard because he is right. Does it sound a bit soft imho ...yes. But I love how my nicca DPG brings Kobe in to this ... we are talking about James here not Bryant. There was already a thread that killed him for ing about Jones. I like Lebron and have lauded his greatness ...I just dont get why (not just DPG) ANYtime he gets crticized people feel the need to bring up Kobe or PAul or Blake or Dwight or get so defensive. How is that aNY diffrent than Kobe fanbois?
The dude is the most dominant player since Shaq and arguably the best all-around player since MJ ...but he is not perfect or above critcicism. OP called him a puss I say he sounded a bit mentally weak but that is just my opinion.
Oh one more thing I saw James pull one of his best post moves ever. AS Harlem and others have pointed out he has always been effective but I saw good foot-work (though a little off balance) to go with the speed and strength. If this cat can CONSISTENTLY do that along with his improved range ... league is further screwed. Like I said GOAT is still possible though not probable. We shall see...
Killa, that doesn't make any sense my man. That's like you bringing up Blake Griffin in the Wolves thread. Same thing..
& Media wants it so bad, it's uncomfortable to watch & listen to them mewing for it.
Blaming the media? That's worse than blaming refs.
I've always said Lebron is the "Shaq" of point guards, and it definitely applies to how they are officiated.
Shaq would occasionally get some unfair offensive fouls and such, which weren't always fair, because he was simply so much bigger and stronger than others. And then other people were allowed to maul him with no fouls.
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