Heat: Lebron frustrated by hard fouils

[JohnnyMax]

[ezau]

And many people still think that James can play in the 80s?

[snickles]

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/feature...ant.technical/

Specifically:
2. Whether or not the player was making a legitimate basketball play (e.g., whether a player is making a legitimate effort to block a shot; note, however, that a foul committed during a block attempt can still be considered flagrant if other criteria are present such as recklessness and hard contact to the head);

4. The potential for injury resulting from contact (e.g., a blow to the head and a foul committed while a player is in a vulnerable position);

so where's the part outlawing wrapping a player up? i still see it happening almost every game, and nothing in this rule, at least the way i read it, would outlaw it.

in fact, sections 3-6 would seem to support a wrap-up as NOT being flagrant or outlawed.

"3. Whether, on a foul committed with a player's arm or hand, the fouling player wound up and/or followed through after making contact;4. The potential for injury resulting from contact (e.g., a blow to the head and a foul committed while a player is in a vulnerable position);
5. The severity of any injury suffered by the offended player; and
6. The outcome of the contact (e.g., whether it led to an altercation)."

[jeebus]

The new Doc Rivers of coaching. ty before but once the superfriends finally played decent, it's "oh he really was an underrated coach!!!!!!!!!"

[Phillip]

And many people still think that James can play in the 80s?

How couldn't he? Defense blew ass in the 80s. People just think about all the stupid fights and Kurt Rambis getting clotheslined, and suddenly the 80's was "physical". You really think that if the rules were different, Lebron and other players couldn't adjust? Then again, there wouldn't be a whole lot of adjusting. People played soft, lazy defense until they were mad, then would go completely the other way by being dirty to an extreme level, only because there were no ramifications for it.

Why are people like you such narrow-minded dumbasses?

[UNCLE-DREW]

And many people still think that James can play in the 80s?

yes, Don't you think his mindset would have been different if he played in that area ?

And his body, Well everybody know's that he has the biggest human freak body besides maybe shaq in his prime.

[JoeTait75]

And many people still think that James can play in the 80s?

With the faster pace and with guys like Kelly Tripucka trying to guard him LeBron might have averaged a triple-double during the '80s, tbh imho.

[hater]

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/feature...ant.technical/

Specifically:
2. Whether or not the player was making a legitimate basketball play (e.g., whether a player is making a legitimate effort to block a shot; note, however, that a foul committed during a block attempt can still be considered flagrant if other criteria are present such as recklessness and hard contact to the head);

4. The potential for injury resulting from contact (e.g., a blow to the head and a foul committed while a player is in a vulnerable position);

thanks.

still committing a fould does not = flagrant. for example, a team has a foul to give in waning seconds and commits a foul. Is that a flagrant? no. Same thing in this case, there was no contact to head, and no "fear" of injury. again, committing a foul on purpose does not = flagrant

what about the hack a shaq, or hack a dwight? are all those flagrant

and just because Lebron claims it, does not mean it's not a basketball play. Fouling someone on purpose has always been and will always be part of basketball

[ElNono]

so where's the part outlawing wrapping a player up? i still see it happening almost every game, and nothing in this rule, at least the way i read it, would outlaw it.

in fact, sections 3-6 would seem to support a wrap-up as NOT being flagrant or outlawed.

"3. Whether, on a foul committed with a player's arm or hand, the fouling player wound up and/or followed through after making contact;4. The potential for injury resulting from contact (e.g., a blow to the head and a foul committed while a player is in a vulnerable position);
5. The severity of any injury suffered by the offended player; and
6. The outcome of the contact (e.g., whether it led to an altercation)."

thanks.

still committing a fould does not = flagrant. for example, a team has a foul to give in waning seconds and commits a foul. Is that a flagrant? no. Same thing in this case, there was no contact to head, and no "fear" of injury. again, committing a foul on purpose does not = flagrant

what about the hack a shaq, or hack a dwight? are all those flagrant

and just because Lebron claims it, does not mean it's not a basketball play. Fouling someone on purpose has always been and will always be part of basketball

Not going to disagree with all that.

The whole section reeks of 'whatever we feel like'. What is a "legitimate basketball play" anyways?

If Dwight gets a broken finger from a hack-a-dwight, is it a flagrant? 1 or 2?

I'll add that wrapping up a player when he's going up for a shot certainly includes "potential for injury resulting from contact". The reality though is that "potential" is not quantifiable, and it's entirely up to the league office to decide on each case.

[hater]

how can dwight possibly get a broken finger from a player wrapping him up? wrapping up is probably one of the safest ways to committ a foul tbh

I agree if player is in mid aird then it's dangerous. But Lebron was not.

[Trainwreck2100]

this just makes it look like those fouls get into his head. Which means we're going to get to see more of this crap in the playoffs

[Spur-Addict]

Pat Riley On Danny Ainges Comments towards LBJ: "He needs to shut the up and manage his own team. He was the biggest whiner when he was playing. I know that because I coached him against him"

Damn, Ainge just got owned big time.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ey...-shut-the-f-up

[ezau]

How couldn't he? Defense blew ass in the 80s. People just think about all the stupid fights and Kurt Rambis getting clotheslined, and suddenly the 80's was "physical". You really think that if the rules were different, Lebron and other players couldn't adjust? Then again, there wouldn't be a whole lot of adjusting. People played soft, lazy defense until they were mad, then would go completely the other way by being dirty to an extreme level, only because there were no ramifications for it.

Why are people like you such narrow-minded dumbasses?

You stupid prolly didn't watch a lot of 80s game did you?

[Phillip]

You stupid prolly didn't watch a lot of 80s game did you?

Actually I watched a lot of 80's games. Defense blew ass.