You still can't answer the question huh? Try again.
Getting into an Ivy league school simply because of connections would be considered as bragging and/or privileged to many people. I don't see the difficulty here but no surprise it's coming from you. I bet you got into school by your daddy too. That's why you can relate to Bush huh?
You still can't answer the question huh? Try again.
So being white = connections? lol
There are more poor whites in the US than poor blacks.
So is the affirmative action only concerning skin color? Because poor white kids who cannot afford college get ed by poor or eve middle class black kid who cannot say "ask" properly.
I used the GI Bill to pay my way, along with working nights for years. That means I served my country, and no not wings and chicken legs like you did.
Again, there is no single, unilateral "they" in this discussion.
Yeah white = connections. Don't know what's funny about that.
White people benefited from affirmative action too. I'd be willing to bet they benefited moreso than black people.
So you want to condemn a whole race for being lazy but yet you criticize them for serving fast food? Oooohkaay. Your trolling is all over the damn place all because you can't answer a simple question.
I know a load of white people. I don't know anyone with connections to get them into an ivy league school.
lol okWhite people benefited from affirmative action too. I'd be willing to bet they benefited moreso than black people.
Did I strike a truth nerve?So you want to condemn a whole race for being lazy but yet you criticize them for serving fast food? Oooohkaay. Your trolling is all over the damn place all because you can't answer a simple question.
Let's say you want to go in for a medical procedure on your heart. You learn your doctor got through med school with lower standards on his grades because he's a minority. Do you feel that could impact the quality of your care?
LMAO! No wonder. No ing wonder. You are Wild Cobra 2.0!
LOL...
Careful...
Next, you will be called a racist.
I see it differently. When I encounter problems, I just blow it off as something I did, bad luck, or something else. It seems like any time someone of color encounters a problem, they cry racism, rather than owning it.
Not going to make any judgements because I don't know the cir stances around the forming of the group. I think that depending on the cir stances the group could have merit. What if there is a bunch of black on white crime in the area?
quotes i found on thise dumbass student union from over a year ago.
Many also questioned why a student would feel the need to form a White Student Union, given that the school is predominately Caucasian. English professor Lena Ampadu Ph.D., has taught at Towson for three decades and said the majority of the campus has always been white. Currently, 68 percent of Towson's student population is white.
"If people would want to start a white student union at an HBCU (Historically Black College & University), it would make more sense," Collins said.
good question, what is the point of a white student union when the schools s overwhelmingly white?!? oh yea, here's why:
Tensions were further inflamed last week when the group brought Jared Taylor to campus. Taylor is described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a "white nationalist" who has argued black hate crimes against whites exponentially outnumber white-on-black hate crimes. Taylor came to offer support for the proposed White Student Union, claiming it "a spectacular double standard that only whites are singled out and told they can't have a race-based organization."
a group with a history of racist rhetoric patrolling an all white campus to protect them "thugs" makes sense....i hope one of these cowards gets knocked the out doggie. let the campus police and police department do their job if ya scared, pussies.
Really fam? What's the point? You can't on one hand claim there is still a massive hurdle to overcome like basically things are as they were pre-Lincoln while on the other hand have an elected black president. Kind of throws that stuff out the window.
Also, in that article you posted, they said if a white group at a HBCU was formed, it would have merit and you already said no to that too. There is an agenda here IMO on your end because basically all white groups (even if they were to allow other minorities in there) would bother you because of the past while ignoring that there is a black president which trumps everything. The leader of the greatest country on Earth is a black man.
sorry not satisfied with 1 black president. when we get at least 5 or 6 more black men, a few women and some latino and asian presidents then i'd be satisfied.
fam, i said earlier i only have a problem with all white groups like this one because it was formed out of fear and hatred. this is just stupid because they're not a minority on campus. if it was a hbcu it would make a little more sense but still be dumb if all they spew is racist and fear based rhetoric, which is what they do.
You guys might have a more sympathetic point of view if you gave any impression that you feel black unions and white unions are equally unjustifiable.
On one hand, you've given a bunch of reasons that black unions/groups are racist and unnecessary, but you seem unable to bring yourself to say the same about a white student union. What I'm seeing is basically a bunch of angry white guys rushing to the defense of another bunch of angry white guys to justify the merits of their race-baiting student group, by attacking race-baiting minority student groups and claiming they have no merit.
i agree, thank you for your unbiased and honest opinion.
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Trill, maybe it was Creepn that said white groups in general aren't ok. Someone said it. Point is, whether you are personally satisfied or not, the leader of the most powerful country on Earth which just so happens to be the country in question here is indeed a black man. The days of inequality on any sort large of scale are gone same with representation or voice. There may be pockets here or there, but now there is quite easily equal opportunity for all races and genders.
The racism today that exists (again outside of small radical parties from all colors) is largely shared racism meaning it's more cosmetic (I.E. SpursTalk type Racism) and is found in equal ignorant doses between all races.
fam, i just don't like how everyone is deflecting with the "why can't whites have their own group!!!" angle. really? this is a white man's world and ya'll are complaining over a silly racist group at towson?!? would you joing this group if you were in college knowing what they stood for?!? tha'tll be like me joining a collegiate chapter of the new black panther party. people are ignoring that this group at towson university built its prinicples on fear and hatred. one of its founders identifies himself as a "white nationalist"
yes the african american race has made some strides(being that we've only been free for 50 years) but racism is still out there. of course you don't see it because you're white. it might not be as in your face as it was in the past,but that doesn't mean it still isn't prevelant. the ignorance is still out there, i see it all the time fam. i don't care if the racism is cosmetic as you call it, systematic, ins utional. racism, is racism, is racism. most of the racist comments we see online are by whites, why?
there isn't. here is a letter the president of the university wrote to the students:
March 27, 2013
Dear Towson University Community:
I want to directly address the recent news of a White Student Union organization, once again claiming roots at Towson University. The Division of Student Affairs continues to clarify that there is no established or recognized “White Student Union” (WSU) on Towson University’s campus. While a Towson University student attempted to form a recognized group in the fall, it failed to meet the university’s requirements for gaining recognition. In response to the establishment of the “WSU crime patrols” at Towson University, Towson University Police Department (TUPD) continues to maintain their vigilance to keep our campus safe. The University does not endorse and strongly discourages patrols by this or any other student group.
Towson University continues to be one of the safest campuses in the University System of Maryland. To ensure that the entire campus community continues to feel safe and comfortable, the TUPD is increasing its presence on campus during the evening hours. We will continue to work with students who feel threatened by the proposed activities of this group to ensure their safety.
The views of this non-affiliated group are diametrically opposed to the core values of Towson University and our commitment to diversity and non-discrimination. The exchange of ideas is a hallmark of higher education, but at times this exchange includes opinions that are offensive and hurtful to many. Please know that we are working tirelessly to monitor and address this challenging situation.
Maravene Loeschke
President
http://www.towson.edu/president/message.asp
Last edited by Trill Clinton; 04-01-2013 at 11:06 AM.
Trill, a very simple litmus test of whether you believe what you say truly is ask yourself this: When there was that true racism that was widespread and rampant did minorities flock to it or flee from it? In the case of SpursTalk racism you consistently subject yourself to it.
I didn't say racism is not out there. I said it's cosmetic in nature for the most part now and it has nothing to do with me being white. The most racist people I have come across in recent years were minorities and I don't think it's just the white man hiding it better now (slamming doors shut then yelling the N word when no one is around).
It is racism, it all sucks and it is pretty equally shared (I do see it). There are plenty of racists comments online by all races, that's just silly to claim otherwise.
No is deflecting about this particular group. The issue that you are deflecting and especially Creepn with his (I don't care if the White group is peaceful and just proud, they can't have theirs but we can because we are owed) mentality. Either groups by race are wrong or they are not. Groups that hate, regardless of color, are wrong. We know that. But if it's a peaceful white counterpart to the black group, how is that different? That is the question at hand - not this particular group of what appears to be bigots.
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