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    Why did culburn get unbanned again?

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    And unless Ginobili has a playoff campaign at a MVP level, Spurs better not offer him a contract over $6M per year. With Ginobili being that unreliable, Spurs badly need to add a quality player with their cap space.
    Ginos body needs few months of relief and then get back into shape IMO. I wold not offer him much. His production is not near the level we would wish.

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    Come on... Really? Manu has been mediocre on D and ineffective on O far more than he has been productive this year. Kahwi has to be the 3rd best player by now if not for his D and energy alone... Manu rolls out of bed and he pulls a muscle... People still look at Manu and think of the potential but when is the last time he showed us that potential?
    Manu still brings important leadership to the team that is unreplaced

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    Ginos body needs few months of relief and then get back into shape IMO. I wold not offer him much. His production is not near the level we would wish.
    While I would be thrilled to see Manu having a rebound year like Tim is having this year, I wouldn't bet on it. What Tim is having this year is quite exceptional. 35+ years old players are usually getting worst each year. The most likely scenario is 12-13 Ginobili > 13-14 Ginobili > 14-15 Ginobili.

    Considering that, $6M per year for Ginobili might even be too generous...

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    We're absolutely screwed for as long as Pop gifts Manu's minutes to Gary "2 of 8" Neal. Give them to Patty, Nando, ANYONE else.

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    And unless Ginobili has a playoff campaign at a MVP level, Spurs better not offer him a contract over $6M per year. With Ginobili being that unreliable, Spurs badly need to add a quality player with their cap space.
    I was just going to say the same thing. And you're right; even that might be too much, because of his lack of durability. But because of what he means to the franchise and the fact that his per minute numbers remain strong and they'll have a good amount of flexibility, I'd be fine with that.

    I also agree that Pop needs to take the reigns off of De Colo. As we saw earlier in the season, the guy can make plays. Yeah, his turnover rate was through the roof, but that has to be secondary to generating as much offense as possible right now.

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    Doesn't matter. It's pussy & assholish to lodge the injury card. I won't do it. Nope. Uh, uh. & as long as I'm here I'll smight anyone that attempts it.

    Utopia does not exist. You have 15 slots. Choosing to fill those 15 slots is vital. Choose wisely.
    I guess Miami proved that last night.

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    Considering that, $6M per year for Ginobili might even be too generous...
    He'll spend most of the time in a suit, so I can't imagine anyone offering anything more than the MLE for him.

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    We're absolutely screwed for as long as Pop gifts Manu's minutes to Gary "2 of 8" Neal. Give them to Patty, Nando, ANYONE else.
    None of those guys are a viable option tbqh.

    Gary Neal's a chucker.
    Patty's probably the worst defender/playmaker out of all our guards.
    Nando is Boris Diaw in a guard's body. Defenders don't have to worry about him because he'll never look to score.

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    Manu will play in one leg for the playoffs if necessary... you can take that one to the bank...


    manu on 2 legs was hurting the team

    manu on 1 leg, pop might as well forfeit the series

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    While I would be thrilled to see Manu having a rebound year like Tim is having this year, I wouldn't bet on it. What Tim is having this year is quite exceptional. 35+ years old players are usually getting worst each year. The most likely scenario is 12-13 Ginobili > 13-14 Ginobili > 14-15 Ginobili.

    Considering that, $6M per year for Ginobili might even be too generous...
    It's sad tbh. I never though I can say that Manu is not worth damn when it comes to him being a guy that can provide a punch for a championship team. But it looks like he will regress now totally.
    You've said it b4 IIRC.

    All in all we need to look at another contributor for the next year - there is enough cap space there.
    Tim will not play forever.


    Gino is so injury prone it is ridiculous. And him getting back to the game shape an rhythm taking so many time. That's not good.

    Damn whiskey screwing me a bit

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    Even if he is cleared to play he will be out of game shape. This is extremely bad news for any chance at a championship this year.

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    manu on 2 legs was hurting the team

    manu on 1 leg, pop might as well forfeit the series
    What difference does it make, nobody is beating Miami anyways, right?

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    He'll be ready for Game 1 of the playoffs tbh.
    Agreed..

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    Even if he is cleared to play he will be out of game shape.
    Manu was nowhere near game shape after the allstar break. and he wasn't getting in anyway

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    If the Spurs manage to hold on to that #1 seed despite all the injuries, they'll be in good shape. The Spurs won't get upset in the first round, the bottom teams of the West are just awful this year. The second round is a different story (and is where I currently see their ceiling), but if Manu and TP find their game/rhythm by then they'll have a 50/50 shot as long as they're facing the Clippers or Grizz.

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    he could get into shape by the time we reached a 2nd round assuming we did...but that's no guarantee with the way we have been playing as of late

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    #1 seed is slipping away

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    I think the biggest foes are OKC and the Grizz, and I think we have a shot at both... not sold any of the other teams in the West can beat us on a 7 game series with or without HCA. Call me a homer, and I could be wrong, but I think the Spurs in general will elevate their games a bit when the playoffs roll around and the adrenaline is there.

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    I think the biggest foes are OKC and the Grizz, and I think we have a shot at both... not sold any of the other teams in the West can beat us on a 7 game series with or without HCA. Call me a homer, and I could be wrong, but I think the Spurs in general will elevate their games a bit when the playoffs roll around and the adrenaline is there.
    I actually think the Spurs can and would beat OKC in a 7 game series this year. The embarrassment of last year will be heavily on their minds and OKC doesn't match up as well as they did. Same with the Grizz, and I'm just not sold on them as a top 4 team in the West anyway. Denver, imo, will be the worst team for the Spurs and if they meet in the second round, Denver will win it in 6.

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    I actually think the Spurs can and would beat OKC in a 7 game series this year. The embarrassment of last year will be heavily on their minds and OKC doesn't match up as well as they did. Same with the Grizz, and I'm just not sold on them as a top 4 team in the West anyway. Denver, imo, will be the worst team for the Spurs and if they meet in the second round, Denver will win it in 6.
    Denver has all the traits of a regular season team. I'm not even 100% sold they'll get out of the first round. Playoffs are a slow-paced game, and their halfcourt game is fairly non-existent. Not really worried about them.

    Much more worried about Memphis, since they have guys that can check all of our better players. Conley/Allen/Prince/Gasol matchup great with Parker/Manu/Kawhi/Tim... how healthy is Marc will play a large part on that, I believe.

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    Denver has all the traits of a regular season team. I'm not even 100% sold they'll get out of the first round. Playoffs are a slow-paced game, and their halfcourt game is fairly non-existent. Not really worried about them.

    Much more worried about Memphis, since they have guys that can check all of our better players. Conley/Allen/Prince/Gasol matchup great with Parker/Manu/Kawhi/Tim... how healthy is Marc will play a large part on that, I believe.
    Denver will more than likely face Golden State in the first round, who is even more unproven, injury prone, and far too dependent on 3-point shooting and home court. Denver will beat them in 5 or 6. This is all based on whether Ty Lawson is back and 100%, however. Should they face the Spurs, I can see their athleticism wear down the Spurs enough for them to sneak a win out of the AT&T Center, and I'm not convinced the Spurs can win a game in Denver.

    The Grizzlies are extremely limited offensively, and it doesn't help Zbo has been struggling and Marc Gasol isn't 100% and prolly won't be. The Spurs' improved D might not be a joke as I previously thought, and the fact Tim/Tiago/Kawhi all play together and well at that on both ends makes the match up all the more even. Only thing that concerns me in a potential series is the physicality, which could cause an injury to any Spur considering how fragile everyone seems to be this year.

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