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This isn't what is at question now. You cannot tell people they are not allowed to talk to the person investigating.
Jon Stewart says under dubya there were 54 attacks on consulate/embassy and staff, with 13 dead, Repugs held 3 hearings, anybody remember?
one attack under Barry, and bad-faith, 2016-politicking Repugs hold 9 hearings, so far!, to smear Hillary. Repugs don't give a about the attack and 4 dead Americans. They are nothing but an opportunity for the Fox/Repug assholes to bad-faith politicking.
Jon Stewart Shreds Fox News, GOP Benghazi Theories: 'You Have No F*cking Idea!'
The pundits at Fox News can't understand why the media isn't outraged over the Obama administration's cover up of Benghazi. Wait, let's correct that: they can't understand why people aren't prematurely outraged IF there was a cover up.
That was the thrust of Jon Stewart's segment on the right's march to impeachment on Wednesday. Every few months, a new smoking gun is promised, and every few months the gun refuses to deliver. But it would seem Fox News would like everyone to be outraged nonetheless (especially if someone was required to run a background check before selling that non-smoking gun).
Watch Jon take apart the conservative network's full-court press on Benghazi and then show them how real outrage is done above.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...cs&ir=Politics
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This isn't what is at question now. You cannot tell people they are not allowed to talk to the person investigating.
Darrell Issa Acknowledges He Learned Nothing New From His Benghazi Hearing
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA)
House Oversight Committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) tacitly admitted on Wednesday that his hearing on the Benghazi terror attacks the same day didn’t turn up any new information. “I’m curious, did you learn anything new today?” Fox News host Greta Van Susteren asked Issa in an interview after the hearing. After meandering around for a bit, Issa finally got to the hearing’s grand revelation — Benghazi was a terror attack:
ISSA: I think the American people learned today from these brave witnesses, these whistleblowers, that the facts as we were told before during and after the attack at Benghazi simply aren’t what they really were. The acting ambassador after Ambassador Stevens was murdered, what they did told us in great detail about what happened that day and what happened in the days to follow and why we should know that he knew and everyone else in the mission new from the moment it happened, from the get-go, as he said, that this was a terrorist attack.
While indeed, former deputy chief of mission Greg Hicks’ testimony detailing his experiences as the attacks on the Benghazi diplomatic mission unfolded was new and riveting. But it didn’t have much to do with what Issa himself said the mission of the hearing would be: expose more Obama administration failures and perhaps even some kind of cover-up (of what, is unclear exactly). “Our hearing will examine new facts about what happened and significant problems with the administration’s own review of Benghazi failures,” Issa said previewing the hearing last month. “This committee will expose what they did and hold them accountable to the public.”
There’s “no question,” Issa said two days before the hearing, that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s staff or even Clinton herself, was involved in a Benghazi “cover-up” (there was no cover-up of any kind, by anyone).
However, Issa’s hearing didn’t expose anything, except perhaps how fact-free a number of right-wing Benghazi conspiracy theories are, including the idea that Clinton personally signed off on cables denying additional security for the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.
But as far as labeling Benghazi a terror attack, that issue has been settled long ago. President Obama referred to it as an “act of terror” the day after the attack and directly referred to the incident as “a terrorist attack” two weeks later. Issa probably didn’t need a hours-long hearing to get confirmation on that.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...ring-benghazi/
so what is the Repug accusation? cover up? of what? by whom? what's the hard evidence?
how many more hearings will the Regugs gin up? to accomplish what?
This is what you've been reduced to?
Despite all of these hearings and investigations, not a shred of incriminating evidence has been delivered. Republicans are not after the truth, they are after incriminating evidence. That is the wrong way to carry out an investigation. All that has come out is more of what we already know. Mistakes were made. Mistakes were also made in the days before 9/11, during the Afghan war, in the buildup to the Iraq war, etc etc. The investigations should have been focused on preventing future attacks on our embassies, but instead it has been one long witch hunt.
REPUBLICANS HOLD HEARINGS ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON’S POLL NUMBERS
Washington -- Republican lawmakers asked increasingly tough questions today as they held another day of hearings to investigate, in the words of Rep. Darrell Issa (R-California), “Hillary Clinton’s su iously high poll numbers and what can be done to make them lower.”
“With the help of Fox News, we have brutally attacked Hillary Clinton for months, and yet she remains more popular than ever,” Rep. Issa said. “This committee needs to know how that happened, and how we can keep it from happening in the future.”
Rep. Issa pointed to recent polls showing the former Secretary of State trouncing every potential G.O.P. Presidential candidate, “even a skinnier version of Chris Christie.”
“We demand an answer to one simple question,” he said. “What does Secretary Clinton know that none of us knows?”
In his boldest allegation of the day, Rep. Issa accused Secretary Clinton of “cynically using her post as Secretary of State to become wildly popular with the American people.”
“I invite her to these hearings to answer those charges,” he said.
Wrapping up for the day, Rep. Issa warned the former Secretary of State that he was just getting started: “Once we Republicans decide to investigate someone, we don’t stop. If Secretary Clinton doesn’t believe me, she should ask her husband.”
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...rowitz%20(118)
John Stewart
Psssst! There is a view count on each YouTube video.
I mean people around here. I know you do, holmes.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...4.html?ml=po_r“When a president lies to the American people and is part of a cover-up, he cannot continue to govern,” Huckabee said. “And as the facts come out, I think we’re going to see something startling. And before it’s over, I don’t think this president will finish his term unless somehow they can delay it in Congress past the next three and a half years.”
5 Biggest Republican Lies About Benghazi
Hillary Clinton Personally Signed Cables Denying Security
During Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s testimony before the House Foreign Relations Committee in January, she vowed to have no knowledge of a request for added security at the American compound in Benghazi. Fox News fueled Republican hysteria with an allegation that a cable denying additional security, which has yet to be seen, was in fact signed by the former Secretary.
Representative Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) asked the three witnesses during Wednesday’s hearing if this was standard protocol–all three agreed that Secretary Clinton’s signature appears at the bottom of all cables regardless if they reach her desk or not.
The Media Is Ignoring These Allegations
Fox News likes to grant itself credit with being the only news network to cover and reveal the “facts” surrounding the “Benghazi-gate” “scandal.”
On his Sunday show last October, Brit Hume lashed out against the mainstream media, “One of the problems we’re having here is that it has fallen to this news organization, Fox News, and a couple of others to do all the heaving lifting on this story. And the mainstream organizations that would be on this story like hounds if there were a Republican president have been remarkably reticent.”
The reality of this allegation is that all news networks were covering the attacks in Benghazi–Fox News is simply angry that the other networks weren’t politicizing the attack and condemning President Obama as they were. Even Fox host Geraldo Rivera had words for his friends at the network: “People, stop, I think we have to stop this politicizing. … [T]hese preposterous allegations –- reckless allegations that paint a picture of some fat bureaucrat watching TV –- I think that’s really beyond the pale.”
Fox News should have been more careful during its coverage of Wednesday’s hearing after being so quick to criticize other news outlets following the September attack. Host Megyn Kelly criticized her own network when she admitted they were a bit “lopsided” in their coverage of the hearing after cutting to commercials during Democratic questioning of the witnesses.
Obama and Clinton Watched The Attacks In Real Time
Fox News host Sean Hannity claimed in at least eight different cir stances that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Obama watched the Benghazi attacks in real time from the situation room. “And if the State Department is now saying they never believed that this attack on the 11th of September against the U.S. consulate was a film protest gone awry, think about it — then, it’s nearly impossible to believe that President Obama didn’t know.” Hannity said.
“Oh, and did I mention the State Department was watching this unfold in real time?”
In a response to a question from Representative Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) about this fic ious viewing party, the former Secretary stated, “There was no monitor, there was no real time.”
What seems to have caused confusion for conservatives is the difference between Clinton and Obama receiving real-time updates from Benghazi, which was in fact the case, and watching real-time video.
Teams Were Prepared To Deploy But Given Orders To Stand Down
Republicans were up in arms upon learning that a Special Forces team stationed in Tripoli was ready to deploy to Benghazi during the attacks and was instead given orders to stand down.
The former Deputy Chief of Mission in Libya, Gregory Hicks, who was one of the witnesses at the hearing on Wednesday, confirmed that the team told to stand down was never meant to deploy to the site of the attack. Instead, they were intended “to secure the airport for the withdrawal of our personnel from Benghazi after the mortar attack.” Hicks also stated that another team was deployed before this specific one was told to stand down — the first did in fact report to Benghazi and all officials were taken to Tripoli with 18 hours of the attack.
Accountability Review Board Is Part Of The Cover-Up And Their Report Can’t Be Trusted
After the September 11 attacks in Libya, the State Department’s Accountability Review Board was prompted to review the handling of the attacks by officials. Republicans clearly not pleased with the fact that the report didn’t condemn President Obama and former Secretary Clinton decided it wasn’t credible and launched their own investigation.
The result was a congressional report aimed at Republicans, which criticizes the administration for failing on just about every level — failing to acknowledge the need for heightened security at foreign consulates on the anniversary of the 2001 terrorist attacks, failing to realize that Benghazi would be a site for post-Gadhafi demonstrations, and the administration’s attempts to mislead the American people with flawed information. The report states, “In sum, the events in Benghazi thus reflect this administration’s lack of a comprehensive national security strategy or effective defense posture in the region…Congress must maintain pressure on the administration to ensure that the United States takes all necessary steps to find the Benghazi attackers.”
Unfortunately for House Republicans looking for outside approval for their ?report during Wednesday’s hearings, not only did the witnesses not come to their defense, but also weren’t overly critical of the ARB report. Eric Nordstrom, the Regional Security Officer for Libya said of the ARB report, “I had an opportunity to review that along with other two committee reports. I think taken altogether, they’re fairly comprehensive and reasonable.”
http://www.nationalmemo.com/5-bigges...bout-benghazi/
A "Christian" preacher man (already an ignorant, lying ) plus Roger Ailes' $$$ = guaranteed lying, slanderish bull .
Does anyone care about the missing wmds and 5,000 dead GIs? Does anyone want to get to the bottom of all of the miesleading statements prior and after the invasion?
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when you guys want to get to the bottom of that let me know.. in the meantime you have zero credibility with this political with hunt..
I'm tired of you partisan pussies.
Stay on subject. I know it is hard for you to do.
not surprising that 4 deaths > 5,000 deaths...
the art of manipulation is used by the media to distract people from events of actual importance.
It was cited regularly when the GOP had their Clinton witch hunt.
The GOP’s latest witch hunt over Benghazi is simply more wagging of the dog.
Fox News is trying really, really hard to make it into Obama’s Watergate to keep us all distracted from some incredibly populist moves in the Senate.
Elizabeth Warren’s first official bill of the 113th Congress, the Bank on Student Loan Fairness Act, is her first big salvo against the Wall Street and Federal Reserve banking cartel that controls our government. She’s made headlines during banking committee hearings, where she’s exposed the fact that the government's Wall Street regulators are simply tools used by Wall Street to pilfer more money from the people. She turned heads when calling for a $22 an hour minimum wage in another hearing. She even got Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke to agree that "Too-Big-to-Fail" banks should be broken up. Now she’s introducing a bill that says if the banks that wrecked our economy and multinational corporations can borrow billions at a 0.75% interest rate, then students should be able to get those same rates when pursuing a higher education.
Apple exploited this obviously rigged system earlier this month when it borrowed $17 billion from the Federal Reserve at the preferential interest rate, then used it to enrich their own executives and dodge $9 billion in taxes. Banks borrow regularly at that same rate from the Fed to make risky bets on Wall Street. But this Summer, students with federal Stafford loans will see their interest rates double from 3.4% to 6.8%. The banks aren’t creating anything real, just imaginary financial instruments. But ensuring that more people have access to a college education will only improve society in the long run. So why are we bleeding poor students dry while giving big banks preferential treatment?
http://readersupportednews.org/opini...izabeth-warren
Repugs don't GIVE A FLYING about 4 dead Americans.
Karl Rove Super PAC attacks Hillary Clinton
A new video from the Karl Rove-linked Super PAC American Crossroads attacks Hillary Clinton for the State Department’s handling of the attacks in Benghazi, asking why Clinton “blamed protesters” and videos, instead of terrorists. “Was she part of a cover-up?” the video asks.
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/10/karl...llary_clinton/
Repugs don't GIVE A FLYING about 4 dead Americans.
Is the GOP hpoing this 'scandal' will last for 4 years? I guess their intention is to try and drag it out.. good luck with that.
Poor Bill O'Reilly wants to know why the populace is not more engaged in this scandal.. lol
Man, Republicans are terrified of Clinton.
She'd romp with the women, blacks (she could learn to play the saxophone), LGBT, hispanics, Asians, minorities, making Barry's trashing of Bishop Gecko seem gentle. (not that neo-con Hillary is a my favorite)
13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News
The Benghazi attacks (the consulate and the CIA compound) are absolutely not unprecedented even though they're being treated that way by Republicans who are deliberately ignoring anything that happened prior to Inauguration Day, January 20, 2009.
January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.
June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.
October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.
February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.
May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.
July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.
December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.
March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name
"David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)
September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.
January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.
March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.
July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.
September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.
Nearly every accusation being issued about Benghazi could've been raised about the Bush-era attacks, and yet these self-proclaimed truth-seekers refused to, in their words, undermine the commander-in-chief while troops were in harm's way (a line they repeated over and over again during those years).
So we're only left to conclude the obvious. The investigations and accusations and conspiracy theories are entirely motivated by politics and a strategy to escalate this to an impeachment trial. In doing so, the Republicans have the opportunity not only to crush the president's second term, but also to sabotage the potential for a Hillary Clinton presidency.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-ce...comm_ref=false
Repugs don't GIVE A FLYING about 4 dead Americans.
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