daaaaamn, student goes off on teacher| was he right or wrong?

[Blake]

Youre so defensive.

I wasnt attacking you. I called myself a damn near mathematician compared to what I thought was your basic finance degree with minimal maths. After I knew of the classes you took for your minor the not bad statement wasnt even meant in a bad way...as in that same sentence I implied that you couldve been an engineer.

smh utsa

[BUMP]

im an ME bump, you in engineering too brah ?

geophysics

imo

[jag]

Where'd he go?

[DMC]

Anyone here ever designed and built a linear accelerator? Hit me up.

[FkLA]

i figured that was the idea behind it, altho like i said i didnt take that four hr cal ll class...check out EGR Analysis II tho, among other things theres a heavy dose of vector calculus. Its an accredited program so not sure why u s think the course material is any different.

also at the s like CN who probably havent touched a calculus book

[Clipper Nation]

also at the s like CN who probably havent touched a calculus book

Maybe you should have taken Statistics instead, so you could learn why Diaw isn't better than Lee

[FkLA]

Ive never even taken any college level maths but im going to lolutsa here bc im a bottom tht really wants to fit in, B...

[Creepn]

ll math geeks

Exactly. They act like they're going to be the next Einstein.

[Creepn]

DOK, why in the you need all that math for? Is it real life necessity for you?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

DOK, why in the you need all that math for? Is it real life necessity for you?

As I've said repeatedly, it's not necessarily the math itself. It's the way taking those math classes enhances your ability to think critically and analytically. It's hard to explain to someone who hasn't taken that much math, but it gives you a huge leg up over people in areas you wouldn't think it would. Finance classes about derivative instruments that are supposed to be hard are extremely simple to me because of the math I've taken. The list of that's much easier for me to understand because of the math I've taken goes on.

In addition to that, all of the math I've taken does actually have real world application in finance. Matrices are used like crazy in high frequency trading, and as BB mentioned previously the Black-Scholes model was created with higher level calculus and it's one of the most widely used models in finance. All of the formulas like black-scholes that are used in finance were developed using calculus.

[Creepn]

As I've said repeatedly, it's not necessarily the math itself. It's the way taking those math classes enhances your ability to think critically and analytically. It's hard to explain to someone who hasn't taken that much math, but it gives you a huge leg up over people in areas you wouldn't think it would. Finance classes about derivative instruments that are supposed to be hard are extremely simple to me because of the math I've taken. The list of that's much easier for me to understand because of the math I've taken goes on.

In addition to that, all of the math I've taken does actually have real world application in finance. Matrices are used like crazy in high frequency trading, and as BB mentioned previously the Black-Scholes model was created with higher level calculus and it's one of the most widely used models in finance. All of the formulas like black-scholes that are used in finance were developed using calculus.

Lol you assuming I didn't take a lot of math because I'm African American huh dok?

I think it's hypocritical for you to blast English when it gives people a different kind of "leg up" in comparision to the "leg up" that math gives you. Just how you assume I wouldn't understand the advantage because I didn't take much math, the same could be said to you vice versa regarding English.

Also I'm still not convinced you're going to apply all that math in real life scenarios even if you took a career in finance which makes you look ridiculously hypocritical and selfish to me. What exactly is the profession you're seeking?

[FkLA]

^lol what bunch of maths did u take ?

and if nothing else doks minor looks good on his resume tbh

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Lol you assuming I didn't take a lot of math because I'm African American huh dok?

No, I'm assuming you didn't take a lot of math because you just questioned me about why I'd ever need that much math. But you already knew that, didn't you?

I think it's hypocritical for you to blast English when it gives people a different kind of "leg up" in comparision to the "leg up" that math gives you.

Yeah look at the starting salary of math majors vs. English majors then get back to me regarding which one has the leg up.

Just how you assume I wouldn't understand the advantage because I didn't take much math, the same could be said to you vice versa regarding English.

I've taken several bull writing classes required as geneds. They didn't do jack for me and didn't give me any kind of a leg up.

Also I'm still not convinced you're going to apply all that math in real life scenarios even if you took a career in finance which makes you look ridiculously hypocritical and selfish to me. What exactly is the profession you're seeking?

A career in finance makes me look hypocritical and selfish? I'd love to hear this one.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

^lol what bunch of maths did u take ?

and if nothing else doks minor looks good on his resume tbh

Bingo. In almost every interview I've had the person interviewing me goes off on a tangent about how, "That minor must have been hard!" It demonstrates a level of analytical thinking that people want working under them.

[BUMP]

FkLA, we take just about all the maths engineers at our school have to take (Calc I-III, Linear Algebra, and Dif Eq) with the exception of engineering statistics.

We also have to take a few engineering classes. Statics this semester (which, ironically, was one of my favorite classes I've taken in college) and then Mechanics of Solids in the fall when I graduate

[Creepn]

No, I'm assuming you didn't take a lot of math because you just questioned me about why I'd ever need that much math. But you already knew that, didn't you?

I know lots of people who took advanced math courses and they still question why they need all the math. Most of them take it either because they like it or they brag about it like the way you do. People who actually apply it to real life scenarios are in the minority. If you're in the minority, props, but I doubt you are.

Yeah look at the starting salary of math majors vs. English majors then get back to me regarding which one has the leg up.

We weren't talking about salary, we were talking about the intelligence benefits, but I agree wholeheartedly that there a higher paying jobs that are math intensive. That's why I pursued a computer science degree.

I've taken several bull writing classes required as geneds. They didn't do jack for me and didn't give me any kind of a leg up.

Of course it didn't do for you because you didn't pursue it. Political candidates wouldn't hire you to write speeches to sway people with all that math you took.

A career in finance makes me look hypocritical and selfish? I'd love to hear this one.

That's not what I said. See, your response is indicative to your lack of English academics, no biggie. What I said was that you was blasting English for not having any real world value but all the math you are taking isn't going to any real world value for you either. You never specified your career choice. Why?

[symple19]

uh-oh, s etti-o's

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I know lots of people who took advanced math courses and they still question why they need all the math. Most of them take it either because they like it or they brag about it like the way you do. People who actually apply it to real life scenarios are in the minority. If you're in the minority, props, but I doubt you are.

It's way too early to tell. If I ever go get my masters, the math I've taken is a requirement for any good masters in finance program.

We weren't talking about salary, we were talking about the intelligence benefits, but I agree wholeheartedly that there a higher paying jobs that are math intensive. That's why I pursued a computer science degree.

So then you did take all that math (honest question)....? Every computer science major I know is pretty beast at math, sans the one who flunked out of school

Of course it didn't do for you because you didn't pursue it. Political candidates wouldn't hire you to write speeches to sway people with all that math you took.

They wouldn't hire someone for taking tons of English classes either. They'd hire a political science expert.

When you watch Sarah Palin/Rick Perry give a speech, does the content strike you as something written by an English academic?

That's not what I said. See, your response is indicative to your lack of English academics, no biggie. What I said was that you was blasting English for not having any real world value but all the math you are taking isn't going to any real world value for you either. You never specified your career choice. Why?

So how am I being selfish? I misread the other part but I'm still lost as to how I'm selfish.

You can also PM me if you're anxious to hear my career choice. I don't feel like sharing it openly.

[Nbadan]

FkLA, we take just about all the maths engineers at our school have to take (Calc I-III, Linear Algebra, and Dif Eq) with the exception of engineering statistics.

We also have to take a few engineering classes. Statics this semester (which, ironically, was one of my favorite classes I've taken in college) and then Mechanics of Solids in the fall when I graduate

Really all you need for a finance major IMO....now if your going into programing I recommend set theory and more theoretical math classes than just Cal 1-2-3

[baseline bum]

....now if your going into programing I recommend set theory and more theoretical math classes than just Cal 1-2-3

Yeah, you gotta be good with induction and probability to not get raped by upper division algorithms/data structures and automata/formal language courses. And then upper division algebra with ring theory and field theory is pretty important for security, but I don't know... maybe you can do ok learning the material from a number theory rather than algebra perspective?

[Nbadan]

Yeah, just judging from my own experience it is possible....I tried my hand at programming and while I likely could have made a nice cozy career out of it... It just was not enough to fulfill by love for abstract algebra and game theory..

[Nbadan]

as far as the OP if the kid had a beef about a teachers style, or like of, there are proper avenues for pursuing those grievances, but showboating in the middle of the classroom about it probably wasn't the best choice...we have to look at student progress and the way other students feel about the teacher before jumping to conclusions...

[FkLA]

FkLA, we take just about all the maths engineers at our school have to take (Calc I-III, Linear Algebra, and Dif Eq) with the exception of engineering statistics.

We also have to take a few engineering classes. Statics this semester (which, ironically, was one of my favorite classes I've taken in college) and then Mechanics of Solids in the fall when I graduate

Yeah, statics was the first class took after my core engineering classes and I enjoyed tbh. structure free on youtube though brah...watch it before you take the class. I got an A on statics and its a pre-req for Solids here so I took it the very next semester and it kicked my ass the first half. Normal and shear stresses/strains, poissons ratio (lateral/vetical strains), bending moments and shear strains be familiar with all that and youll be good.

[FkLA]

*bending moments and shear forces

[BUMP]

Statics was one of those weird classes where it didn't really click until halfway through. For example, I had trouble figuring out how to correctly do moments (counterclockwise/clockwise really tripped me up) until we started applying it to trusses and machines and then it all just made sense.

tbh i had a low B throughout the course but once I realized how it all built on each other and understood everything, I completely raped the final. Waitin on meh grade atm, but it should be an A.