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Jimmy Butler and Chandler Parsons are two wings who were picked after 28. Butler especially is light years ahead of Green on defense.
It's possible.
You just described Danny Green to a T. How could someone the Spurs can draft at #28 be better than Danny is now?
Jimmy Butler and Chandler Parsons are two wings who were picked after 28. Butler especially is light years ahead of Green on defense.
It's possible.
Yeah I was pissed when we passed on Parsons I thought he would be good but not as good as he is playing now.
Yes, that did describe him in game 3. It was good of him to finally show up. We could use him in games 4 and 5 as well. Keep your fingers crossed we get the same Danny Green these next two games.
Danny's NBA career was about over when we picked him up and developed him into what he is now. He was something like a 46th pick in the draft (and not our pick). One would think we could pick someone in the first round who could develop into an even better player than Green. If Danny can maintain his level of play, then we could focus on a SG with more of a scoring focus to balance the second team's scoring. If he can't limit Curry in this series, then we need to look at drafting a defensive stopper at the SG position in this draft.
For a first round player I want someone who can handle the ball other then Manu and Tony no player can create there own shot with ease. I want someone who can break his man down and take it to the whole and finish and someone who has a decent mid to long range shot. It is a lot easier to teach defense then it is to teach offense.
We have excellent role/system players at the SG/SF, but are going to be lacking a creator post Manu. Not sure what to expect from Kawhi. Those type of players aren't cheap, and usually not available at 28. Tyrke, with all the turmoil in Sactown, seem ripe for the picking even though he's a RFA. Belleneli may also be available though his weakness on the defensive end are problematic.
Side note, I thought it was interesting that the spurs worked out Thompson during the draft they took Kawhi. Would've been something if spurs landed him.
BTW, I won't list this year the players that have worked out for Spurs by doing google/twitter search on that.
If another poster want to do it, he is welcome to do it. I can sticky a thread he created with a list of the players worked out if he wants it.
What about a guy with untapped potential like Goodwin of Kentucky at 28. Not exactly the ideal Spurs archetype, but the talent is all there.
Snell and Rice getting some praise on 1st day of NBA Draft Combine
Some info from Day 1 Draft Combine.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-top-prospects
Rudy Gobert: 7-1 1/2 WITHOUT shoes.
I'm usually all for draft the best player available but not really this year. Spurs should really be careful if they go after a perimeter player with their first round pick because there might not have available minutes to develop him:
- At PG, Joseph is turning into a damn solid backup PG and with Parker still relatively young, there might not have an opening for years.
- At SG, some minutes might be available behind Green with Ginobili being old and injury prone. I've said "might" because it will depend on what are Spurs plan with Neal and De Colo.
- At SF, Spurs have find their starter for the next decade or so with Kawhi and he will play a lot of the available minutes. A draftee player might be Kahwi's backup but Spurs could go with a free agent like Casspi and/or sign the promising Bertans.
In the paint and especially at the PF slot, Spurs have considerably less depth/talent.
Well based on fan feedback we can hope that Neal and Blair are both gone so that gives us two slots to fill. Then we have two guys we have to decide if we sign them and for how much. Looking at Splitter it would be easy to say he is not worth it but he has gotten better and it is very hard to find good smart centers in this league "But he is fragile". As far as Manu he is looking his age but he has a little left in his gas tank but I would not pay more then five mill for this used car.
I am happy to be eating crow about CoJo the guy is now our official backup PG so De Colo better be getting ready to play SG a lot more this upcoming season. I am really interested to see if we decide to sign any of our foreign draft picks play this summer ..Bertrans, Hanga, and Richards. I like Casspi but he is a young player and will want to be a starter and get playing time so I don't see us able to sign him.
The trouble is that from what I see from previous drafts, it seems to be extremely difficult to get a decent frontcourt player in the later segments of the draft.
I think if Spurs are going to want to augment their frontcourt, their best strategy would have to be to draft and stash an overseas player with potential yet again.
I think the possibility of finding a backup big guy are smaller than finding a backup SG or SF.
How many good big guys have been drafted so late in the 1st or in the 2nd round?
At the end, the Spurs will have to choose between players like Adams, Nogueira, Jaiteh or go to the SG position.
If I had to guess I think the Spurs will probably like to take a player like Dario Saric, Livio Jean Charles, Giannis (?). Those are big guys that can do others things.
I would prefer to get a big guy via trade, lower the risk.
You know what!? Lets get Otto Porter!
Spurs need to sign a big via FA and draft a sg/sf in the draft IMO.
Neal should not be resigned and the Spurs should see if anyone around the league in interested in De Colo. Maybe they could try to use him to try and move up in the draft if they like somebody enough.
You know I think CoJo development really surprised the Spurs organization cause I don't think they would have brought De Colo if CoJo was playing close to the way he is playing now. I guess he can be insurance for PG and SG but he is not going to get a lot of minutes so maybe he agrees to be traded if possible.
Signing big in the FA cost mucho $$$$
The kind of bigmen that isn't rarely drafted with high draft picks and soemtimes turns out good are undersized (6'9") PFs without crazy athleticism. Players like Carl Landry, David Lee, Paul Millsap, Glenn Davis, Brandon Bass are example of that. From looking a this year players, Jackie Carmichael could be that guy.
And I'm not saying Spurs shouldn't draft a SG/SF.
It's just that behind Leonard, Green and Kawhi, they have a lot of options (Neal, De Colo) or potential options (Bertans, Casspi). If Spurs don't like these options, it would make a lot of sense to draft a wing. If Spurs do like these options, a SG/SF drafted would be caught in a logjam. He will never play, which would have allowed him to develop his game, and he will end as a wasted pick.
Of the names that you quote, apart from Millsap, and to some extent Davis, the rest of the lot are a severely defense-deficient, undersized and limited bunch of players. The Spurs themselves own another of the lot, picked at the 37th pick - Dejuan Blair, who they tried hard to develop with all his deficiencies, but has come up short of their expectations (relatively as he has still been a value pick at 37).
I think that is why the Spurs will think hard at trying to get an undersized PF again. I don't know about Carmichael. But if he is 6'8'' or lesser and is defensively deficient, he would soon be redundant on the Spurs. If on the other hand, there was a hypothetical Europe/ Latin America/ Australia based big man who was 6'9'' + and provided defensive potential, the Spurs could draft him and stash him for a while as he learns his mores a la Splitter/ Mahinmi.
I do agree with you on this. I think the guard-small forward positions are quite intact for the Spurs. At SF -they should look for a vet SF backup for Kawhi; at SG, they have to develop Nando (Neal is most likely gone after this year) as a backup to both Green & Ginobili and at PG, Joseph is coming along quite well while Nando/Ginobili can play PG at a pinch. It is the Bonner/Blair duo that the Spurs would want to immediately replace, plus plan for a Splitter-pairing as Duncan eventually retires over time.
Based on several different threads, there seems to be some confusion about who can and who cannot be traded on draft night. My understanding is this:
Can be traded on draft night: Parker, Duncan, Bonner, Green, Leonard, De Colo, Joseph, Baynes, and players whose rights the Spurs hold
Cannot be traded on draft night: Ginobili, Splitter, Diaw, Mills, Blair, Neal, McGrady
I'm not positive about Diaw and Mills with their player options. Is the above accurate?
Last edited by ABC; 05-19-2013 at 07:38 AM. Reason: Spelling
Yes you have that right. Because Diaw and Mills can become free agents in July, they cannot be traded on draft night. I think as we get closer to the draft, I'll look into seeing which players are reasonable targets to get in trades. Some favorites like Derrick Williams (for me) are no more difficult to obtain.
EDIT: Duncan has a no-trade clause. So he can't be traded without his consent.
You know, I'd like to see a third round added to the draft where teams could pick players to put on a d-league roster. The players would be paid an average of the rookie minimum and a d-league deal, but in return they would get at least a year guaranteed. The picks would be untradeable, so every team would be forced to have at least one player in which they have something invested in the d-league. It would be nice to see teams take greater responsibility in developing prospects.
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Why doesn't someone make a pool just to see what kind of player the forum want including things like:
- PG, Combo Guard, SG, Blocker, 3Pt shooter, Rebounder, Scorer, Big guy, defensive, Best available...others.
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