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    Splitter can't be passing up layups again, since he'll be getting more opportunities to score in Game 2.

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    I look for them to try to get one or two of the Spurs bigs in foul trouble early. If so it could cause the game to change in the second half in their favor.

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    I look for them to lose 3 more games and fairly quickly - got to the finals on a gift series vs. the Thunder with a hurt Westbrooke - nothing to see here.

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    They'll be sticking to the 3pt shooters in game 2. Time for TP and Manu to penetrate and either get layups themselves or pass to TD and TS for layups.

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    Box and 1 for the REAL MAMBA.

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    The Griz overplayed Manu on the perimeter in Game 1, which allowed him to dish to some WIDE open 3P shooters. I think they are going to let him shoot from distance all he wants, until he proves that he can start making them.

    I look for them to hedge a lot harder on the PnR, and to try and force Duncan to make the shots he's been missing.

    I don't think Hollins can stand to go small for prolonged periods. First, they don't have the quickness that GS had, and the Spurs have been pretty effective at playing small-on-small. Second, the two beasts are Memphis' bread and butter. I don't see them abandoning that. Instead, I look for them to just be more Memphis-like, and resort to brute strength. I think one of their best ways to get Z-Bo the ball deep is off of missed shots. I expect to see Conley and Arthur stop and pop from mid-range, earlier in the shot clock, to try and keep the Spurs from setting up for rebounds so that Z-Bo can collect the misses and get some easy ones in the paint.

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    When the spurs role player are hitting 3s early, wing defenders adjust during the game and stay home on shooters and then Parker usually have a big game

    The great thing about this game 1 is that it was such a good 3pt shooting display that the spurs won't even have to earn it early in game 2 and Parker/Manu will have space from the start of the game

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    Yeah so was I, I said to my wife, I've NEVER see Memphis sans injuries, play small and just totally go away from how they normally play.
    You married now brah?

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    I have a gut feeling grizz take the next 3 games...hope I'm wrong

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    wtf do you care?

    chicago fan!

    hey how's derrick rose's leg

    crofl
    Want her name and #. See if she cheats.

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    Couple of things here...

    - I personally think Hollins went small at the start of the 4th more as a test if he could match up if Pop decides to go small than anything. I don't know he's going to stick to that unless it's absolutely necessary for him as a matchup counter.
    - As other have said, Allen on Parker will likely happen. Allen is a great one on one defender, but not off the ball. He's basically being wasted guarding Green. I still think Tony can use his speed to produce well enough regardless, but those pick and rolls are definitely going to get a lot more physical.
    - Getting ZBo going isn't THAT complicated. They will just use Prince/Allen more to set picks under the basket and free ZBo up closer to the rim. When TA and Prince sit down, they can ISO ZBo in the post and have Conley/Pondexter/Bayless stretching the floor ready to take a 3 if any of their defenders double up. This is actually the biggest treat, in that if Memphis finds a way to score relatively consistently from 3, they can overcome the scoring droughts they normally have. I would be more willing to give ZBo what he can get in this instance than opening the 3 pointer floodgates. Even if Conley/Bayless are not 'great' 3 point shooters.
    - Attack the 2-3 zone more effectively. Since they're not great shooters, the other way to do it is with good ball movement and backdoor cuts. The later is something that they can do, but they need to be ready to recognize when the Spurs go zone and be ready to execute. A couple of successive baskets can dissuade the Spurs from keep playing zone and go back to man to man.
    - Memphis need to stop the Spurs ball movement. The Spurs have the tendency of calling off a play if it's disrupted as part of the execution, and instead of calling another play, just try to go for either a quick pick and roll or simply an iso (sometimes with a kick if the defense collapses). The way for them to do that is simply doing their work early. Beat the Spurs to their initial offensive spots, and deny the easy pass. Force the Spurs to reset the offense with a reduced shot clock. We see this often enough with the Spurs simply screwing up execution.
    - Attack the weak passing players. Somewhat related to the previous point. If Danny Green has the ball, front Duncan and deny the entry pass. Cover Tony so he can't receive a pass out. Make guys like Green or Bonner put the ball on the floor or waste precious shot clock seconds trying to get out of a bind.
    - Ultimately, guys like Green/Neal/Bonner will revert to their mean production-wise. You don't want to have to depend on this, but the reality is that if that were not the case, the Grizzlies likely have no shot at winning this.

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    If we move the ball around and hit our open shots like game 1 they are in trouble because they have horrible individual movement with Randolph and Gasol. I expect them to play much more physically on the perimeter. Lots of shoving to disrupt our off the ball movement.

    They really were not ready for the huge upgrade in team play after getting rocked to sleep by OKC doing the same thing relentlessly. Durant ad nauseum is over.

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    Historically, the most reliable way to stop the Spurs' offense is to gum up Tony with a bigger guy. Tony Allen fits the bill, and that role is more to Allen's liking. Prince is also a possibility for a few minutes, although he's past his prime where he could be expected to it for long stretches. if the Griz can do that, the whole dynamic obviously changes with regards to the 3 pt shooters and it coud get ugly, like it always does. That could be all that's required to compensate for a PnR defense that is, as many have pointed out, surprisingly bad given the Griz' overall defensive numbers.

    Similarly, once you make Parker's work harder on offense and Conley's easier on defense, it could free up Conley on the other end. Z-Bo knows he's got to be more aggressive and he's a crafty bag-o-tricks guy.

    I think the Spurs naturally come out running the same PnRs to see if Memphis has learned anything, but they have to have a Plan B on the chance they have (and also on the likelihood that no matter what, they aren't going to hit a FR number of three again).

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    In game 1, the few times Allen ended up on Parker he was shat upon. Parker's not 100 percent yet and he had his way with everyone. The Grizzlies might just trap Parker to get him to give up the ball.

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    Also, forgot to mention, Fat Gasol is going to have to stop standing around on offense. How many people saw him go right at Duncan to score the first layup of the game and thought "it's gonna be a long day"?

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    It does look like a pick your poison scenario for them. Hoping for missed shots isn't much of a plan. Taking minutes from Randolph and giving them to Arthur/Davis is possible, but that means trying to win in new way very late in the season.

    It's almost as if the Spurs have spent two years altering the team in preparation for this rematch.
    Bingo

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    Forgot to mention in my previous post, but yeah, the overplaying the P&R from Memphis will likely stop next game. That's stuff that worked against OKC/Clippers, but the Spurs are actually a well oiled machine when it comes to P&R offense, and trying to cheat coverage isn't going to work. They'll have to simply play it straight up and focus on keeping a body in front of the ball handler. In other words, make Tony/Green/Neal make shots instead of layups.

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    Forgot to mention in my previous post, but yeah, the overplaying the P&R from Memphis will likely stop next game. That's stuff that worked against OKC/Clippers, but the Spurs are actually a well oiled machine when it comes to P&R offense, and trying to cheat coverage isn't going to work. They'll have to simply play it straight up and focus on keeping a body in front of the ball handler. In other words, make Tony/Green/Neal make shots instead of layups.
    Good call. It looked to me like nobody bothered to tell Memphis they weren't playing Kevin Durant and the Cancun Kids anymore.

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    You married now brah?
    Yup since December 2010.

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    Maybe more guys flying at players at the perimeter. More zone. That seems to be a go to move when a team struggles defensively against them is to go zone and it usually works, until Diaw comes in, sets up shop at the FT line and starts picking that apart as well.
    Didn't they already give up enough offensive rebounds to us last game. Zone essentially surrenders the defensive glass.

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    - As other have said, Allen on Parker will likely happen. Allen is a great one on one defender, but not off the ball. He's basically being wasted guarding Green. I still think Tony can use his speed to produce well enough regardless, but those pick and rolls are definitely going to get a lot more physical.
    LOL, Connolly. LOL All Defensive team guard.

    Frankly, LOL their entire defense with THREE All Defensive team players.

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    Historically, the most reliable way to stop the Spurs' offense is to gum up Tony with a bigger guy. Tony Allen fits the bill, and that role is more to Allen's liking. Prince is also a possibility for a few minutes, although he's past his prime where he could be expected to it for long stretches. if the Griz can do that, the whole dynamic obviously changes with regards to the 3 pt shooters and it coud get ugly, like it always does. That could be all that's required to compensate for a PnR defense that is, as many have pointed out, surprisingly bad given the Griz' overall defensive numbers.

    Similarly, once you make Parker's work harder on offense and Conley's easier on defense, it could free up Conley on the other end. Z-Bo knows he's got to be more aggressive and he's a crafty bag-o-tricks guy.

    I think the Spurs naturally come out running the same PnRs to see if Memphis has learned anything, but they have to have a Plan B on the chance they have (and also on the likelihood that no matter what, they aren't going to hit a FR number of three again).
    UR still there my fiend.

    Definitely I can see Grizzlies play more physical and more inside! Put spurs into foul trouble early and then often. Zach is there to come back for a big game. he can demolish the spurs shooting and killing the board. Spurs fans got to comfortable after just one win which was far from easy even seeing at the final score.
    If the hi-lo will not be effective both froncorters can score from midrange and can be delivered down low from different angle.
    Conley is still a good match against TP. Grizz can put Allen on TP to see how the spurs react and esp Green on offense being guarded by a smaller guy. Mike also will bounce back and can kill the spurs with aggression, everybody forgot how he toyed with the spurs 2011.
    Chess match there again. Isos on a bigger player which is guarded by Manu, /ex. 4down Prince/.
    This next game is huge to take more peaceful series.

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    Didn't they already give up enough offensive rebounds to us last game. Zone essentially surrenders the defensive glass.
    As I said after that, that seems to be the go to move by teams when they struggle defensively against them. Who knows if they do it.

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    Spurs a capable of breaking zone D and tbh NBA teams do not have gr8 zones. But they /this type of D/ give you different looks. So we'll see

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    In game 1, the few times Allen ended up on Parker he was shat upon. Parker's not 100 percent yet and he had his way with everyone. The Grizzlies might just trap Parker to get him to give up the ball.

    Warriors tried that game 5 and 6 but it didn't work

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