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Now Vogel saying it was George's fault in his postgame but he told him to forget about it
If George defends LeBron properly are we even talking about this?
And i don't mean stopping LeBron from scoring, i mean fronting him up as opposed to giving him a free lane to the hoop.
Now Vogel saying it was George's fault in his postgame but he told him to forget about it
so in what will be a closely contested series vogel will have to continually leave his best defender on the bench in crunch time. sounds like the heat are a lock then...concede the 99 % percentage shot over the 50% one
Did anyone else notice the clock started pretty late on the inbounds pass/catch?
pretty much
If Miami gonna force Vogel to sit Hibbert every important possesion. Series is over
You live with a clean look from anybody, any jumper from anyone. You can't live with a pre-game drill layup to the best player on the planet, uncontested, no double. I mean, even the Lakers aren't that dumb.
Not only do you leave hibbert in, you double Lebron and let someone else beat you.
Anyone but Lebron. Just like the anyone but Kobe rule. Sure the heat prob get a clutch shot from Allen or Bosh, but better them than the best player on the planet.
Frank Vogel: "I would say we would probably have [Hibbert] in next time."
Shades of Avery benching Damp against GSW.
Straight f'n re ed.
Seems like an easy choice to me. That same play with Hibbert instead of West ends in Bosh taking a rushed corner three. Much better than an uncontested layup by James.
Co-sign. Stern got lucky tonight.
they've already overachieved by making the ECF, and it's another solid evidence that shows the overall incompe iveness of the eastern conference. pacers are the defensive/eastern counterpart of the warriors and both coaches (vogel and mark jackson) deserve credits for their teams' successes imho
Although i disagree with his coaching decision, it is not exactly as bad as some people make it out to be. Paul Overrated George made two terrible defensive decision along with George hill that opened up the layup.
Majority of clutch situations end up as jumpshoots and i think vogel was taking that into consideration. It`s not his fault hill and george fcked up IMHO.
Vogel made a lot of bonehead plays down the stretch. That late timeout was ill advised. Taking Hibbert out not once but twice at critical points was insane. Young coach better learn fast or he'll be fishing three games from now.
You have to help your perimeter defenders. With such little time left on the clock, passing to Bosh seemed unlikely. Hibbert could have made a big difference there. If Bosh hits a three over a recovering Hibbert, you accept it. If James and Wade blow by their men for uncontested layups while West watches, you take a hard look at the mirror.
If LJ gets close to rim with Hibbert standing there, you can be certain that there would have be a foul called. You think they're gonna let Hibbert block or alter LJ's shot?
Indy's ball pressure was non-existent. Easy catch in front of an open lane for LJ. I can't recall ever seeing an NBA playoff game decided by a pretty-much unguarded layup.
On a clutch situation, not matching up when an opponent goes small means you get to give them more choices offensively. If you go small, you only need to worry about them getting an easy layup. If you go with hibbert, then can end up with a clean screen then open jump shoot, a blow by then pass, and 12-15 jump shoot or a floater..
I disagree with the decision simply because i think you only get a player or two who`se get enough control and poise to know the latter, but i dont think it was really that bad of a decision.
They should have fouled Lecrab on that last play. Make him earn those points. Don't just let him score that basket.
If anything Vogel was thinking any merit, James would have passed out to Bosh, therefore preventing a foul on Hibbert or more importantly the layup. And I'd rather James have to take two free throws with a second left on the clock than him having an uncontested layup anyway.
I don't think we're arguing the same thing here. I'm not talking about having two bigs in versus playing small; I'm talking about having Hibbert in to guard Bosh rather than West. It's not like West is a great mobile defender or anything. Hibbert spent much of the game on Bosh, so I wouldn't call that a bad match-up for Indiana.
Forcing Miami to make a choice with so little time on the clock is a good thing in my mind. It's a pretty easy assignment on defense: Switch everything and have Hibbert help on a drive. By the time you get a PnR done for Miami, time's up.
You're right, no easy layups in the playoffs ffs.
I'll bet LJ couldn't believe how open the lane was...he was probably planning to do a Wade-esque dive/flop.
The trailer who went for the swipe was a full 2 steps behind him.
Pathetic.
Lecrab should have gotten a technical after that one made shot in overtime. According to Lord Stern, you're not suppose to do that. It's showing up the refs. Pathetic. He basically whined and did a gesture to indicate that he was fouled and was jumping up and down. That's excessive and unprofessional.
I didn't care much about not having Hibbert in there but by the way every Indiana player defended that last possesion it was obvious that he told his guys to play them very tight thinking Miami would force a jumpshot not realizing that 2 seconds was enough time to get to the basket if you gave them the chance and they did.
You are so mad at life right now.
Not mad. I am not even surprised. I assume that Stern, somehow, will do whatever it takes to get Superfriends the championship. I am just glad that the Bulls won a game against the Heat because I really didn't want to hear any 16-0 talk from bag Heat fans. I mean seriously, how many of these Superfriends bandwagon fans were fans 5 years ago when DWhistle and the Heat didn't even make the playoffs?
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