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    All Zimmerman has to use is self defense. He doesn't need SYG. Getting your bloodied head beaten into the concrete over and over usually ends very badly for the one getting his head slammed. That is clearly a reasonable fear for your life.
    Yes I know. That's exactly why he's not using SYG. However, that doesn't mean that it doesn't apply.

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    It's a rule of law dumbass!

    Do you think the judge will tell the jury that SYG is irrelevant in this case?
    And the law has been administered.

    Take for example the insanity defense. If the defense declines to use it then it's irrelevant to the case. Again, the defense declined to use it.

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    Pot, meet Kettle. The Yin to WC's Yang.
    What logical inconsistency?

    Or are you just flailing around?

    I'm guessing the latter.

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    And the law has been administered.

    Take for example the insanity defense. If the defense declines to use it then it's irrelevant to the case. Again, the defense declined to use it.
    Wrong.

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    What logical inconsistency?

    Or are you just flailing around?

    I'm guessing the latter.


    ing dumbass.

    you just did one.

    Insanity has nothing to do with judicial procedure. You are either sane enough to stand trial or you aren't.

    It's not a "defense" it's a condition that precludes being tried in the courts.

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    And the law has been administered.

    Take for example the insanity defense. If the defense declines to use it then it's irrelevant to the case. Again, the defense declined to use it.
    The defense can still use it, they just chose not to at this stage. You're such a smug dip . Have you been following the case?

    "During Tuesday's motions hearing, Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara told Judge Debra Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing to take place before Zimmerman's trial. O'Mara said the hearing could be requested after the defense has presented its case, but "we'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof."

    Benjamin Crump, attorney for the Martin family, said Zimmerman's decision to "merge" the hearing and the trial "is very telling of his defense, or lack thereof."

    "We believe the defense's decision to waive a pretrial hearing and to merge the 'stand your ground' hearing into the trial is to prevent putting George Zimmerman on the stand," Crump said in a press release, "and to preclude the public and the potential jury pool from previewing the many inconsistencies in George Zimmerman's story."



    No doubt you'll still say you're right though. And in no way am I backing Zimmerman here, just helping bury your head further up your ass.

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    The defense can still use it, they just chose not to at this stage. You're such a smug dip . Have you been following the case?

    "During Tuesday's motions hearing, Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara told Judge Debra Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing to take place before Zimmerman's trial. O'Mara said the hearing could be requested after the defense has presented its case, but "we'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof."

    Benjamin Crump, attorney for the Martin family, said Zimmerman's decision to "merge" the hearing and the trial "is very telling of his defense, or lack thereof."

    "We believe the defense's decision to waive a pretrial hearing and to merge the 'stand your ground' hearing into the trial is to prevent putting George Zimmerman on the stand," Crump said in a press release, "and to preclude the public and the potential jury pool from previewing the many inconsistencies in George Zimmerman's story."



    No doubt you'll still say you're right though. And in no way am I backing Zimmerman here, just helping bury your head further up your ass.
    Just because I have zero respect for you does not make me smug. I just have no respect for you.

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    ing dumbass.

    you just did one.

    Insanity has nothing to do with judicial procedure. You are either sane enough to stand trial or you aren't.

    It's not a "defense" it's a condition that precludes being tried in the courts.
    Just because two things are not the same does not mean that there are not similarities. I said 'it's like the insanity defense.' Note the use of the word 'like.' That makes it a simile. See how that works?

    There are 50 states, DC, the feds, etc that all have different criminal statutes. To behave that they are all to be treated the same is pretty ignorant. Also, the point still stands: the defense has not chosen to use the statute. Like the insanity plea, defense or whatever else you want to call it, if they have no asserted it then it is not an issue.

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    If you would like an example of a logical inconsistency, I present the following.

    Insanity has nothing to do with judicial procedure. You are either sane enough to stand trial or you aren't.
    I bolded so you can quickly identify why it's logically inconsistent. If you are confused, then I will be happy to explain it to you.

    ing dumbass

    teehee

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    If the defense declines to use it then it's irrelevant to the case. Again, the defense declined to use it.
    They've declined to use it at this time, that in no way means it will not and can not be used during the trial. You're dead wrong on this. Tuck your tail or chase your tail, up to you.

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    Just because I have zero respect for you does not make me smug. I just have no respect for you.
    Thinking I give a about spurstalk respect. Get a ing life.

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    If the defense declines to use it then it's irrelevant to the case. Again, the defense declined to use it.
    Also, the point still stands: the defense has not chosen to use the statute.



    I see what you did there

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    Thinking I give a about spurstalk respect. Get a ing life.
    You are the one squealing that I am smug. You care enough to whine about it.

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    They've declined to use it at this time, that in no way means it will not and can not be used during the trial. You're dead wrong on this. Tuck your tail or chase your tail, up to you.
    They also haven't used guilty by reason of insanity either.

    Mark O'Mara, who is defending George Zimmerman against a second-degree murder charge in the fatal February shooting, said the traditional self-defense approach is appropriate because the facts suggest his client couldn't retreat from a beating Martin was giving him.

    Zimmerman's attorneys had said last week that they would use Florida's controverial "stand your ground" law, which allows people to use deadly force - rather than retreat - if they believe their lives are in danger.

    "The facts don't seem to support a 'stand your ground' defense," O'Mara said.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...round-defense/

    Like I said, you guys should pay attention.

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    WC, your boy CC is basically calling you an idiot.
    He's allowed to, especially when attacking heads like you or Fuzzy.. He at least has intelligence, which most of you lack.

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    He's allowed to, especially when attacking heads like you or Fuzzy.. He at least has intelligence, which most of you lack.
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    Fuzzy isn't smug, he's just so ing ignorant he doesn't even realize he doesn't know .

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    They also haven't used guilty by reason of insanity either.



    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...round-defense/

    Like I said, you guys should pay attention.
    I see you chose to chase your tail some more.

    Thanks for linking an article from August 2012, nothing has changed since then.

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    "During Tuesday's motions hearing, Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara told Judge Debra Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing (stand your ground) to take place before Zimmerman's trial. O'Mara said the hearing could be requested after the defense has presented its case, but "we'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof."



    How Fuzzy will spin this into he knew this all along should be entertaining.

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    He's allowed to, especially when attacking heads like you or Fuzzy.. He at least has intelligence, which most of you lack.
    Let me get this straight. CC can call you any insult in the book regarding your intelligence level (which to be clear would be the likes of: idiot, village idiot, re , moron, stupid ass, ect.) as long as he attacks the e-people that doesn't share your opinion?

    Pretty submissive of you tbh, especially when I haven't even insulted you yet.

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    Fuzzy isn't smug, he's just so ing ignorant he doesn't even realize he doesn't know .
    Fuzzy is towing the company line.

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    "During Tuesday's motions hearing, Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara told Judge Debra Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing (stand your ground) to take place before Zimmerman's trial. O'Mara said the hearing could be requested after the defense has presented its case, but "we'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof."


    How Fuzzy will spin this into he knew this all along should be entertaining.

    Fuzzy

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    Link to 2012

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    "During Tuesday's motions hearing, Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara told Judge Debra Nelson there was nothing in the law that required the immunity hearing (stand your ground) to take place before Zimmerman's trial. O'Mara said the hearing could be requested after the defense has presented its case, but "we'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof."



    How Fuzzy will spin this into he knew this all along should be entertaining.
    The initial SYG hearing was in 2012. There has not been any activity for quite some time. Dates of sources are only relevant when the data in it is made irrelevant. It has not been.

    I don't see how I need to spin when O'Mara is on record as stating, "The facts don't seem to support a 'stand your ground' defense." That was the reason why I posted that link. Sure he has already backtracked. And at O'Mara "(telling) Judge Debra Nelson." Anything.

    When O'Mara's backtracking includes not declining to use the statute at the hearing, making statements about a lack of evidence being the reason why, and requesting a new hearing then you let me know. Until then my point still stands: SYG is not an issue in this case. He poisoned his own well.

    You guys GOP circle jerk is so cute though. You guys going to butt later?

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