2013 Free Agent: Paul Pierce

[DesignatedT]

I like the idea of bringing in Hanga over Bertans this summer. Bertans looks like nothing but a Danny Green to me at the moment. Spot up shooter who has to be spoon fed.

[Richie]

The Spurs don't need another aging superstar. They need a player who is either a great fit for their system or has the potential to be. Pierce doesn't fit the bill there. He's over the hill but still has that superstar mentality. There's no reason to think he'd be fine with a role as a backup. Even if he were, that doesn't make him a great fit with Ginobili. Ideally, the Spurs would want their backup three to be a defender/shooter like Jimmy Butler. With Ginobili, Diaw and potentially De Colo (or improved Joseph) in place, the backup unit doesn't need another ball-user.

I disagree with almost everything you've said. Pierce is like a much, much better version of Jackson. He's an elite 3 point shooter, a elite clutch player and can still do a job defensively. It was only last year the Celtics took the Heat to 7 games with Pierce defending Lebron most of that time.

You say theres no reason to think he will accept a backup role. I'd say there's no reason to think he wouldn't. He doesn't have to chase rings, if he doesn't want a backup role he can just retire. If he would be willing to sign here, it shows he would be willing to play that role.

Even if you disagree with that assessment, why could you possibly think Wes Johnson is a better option? The dude is a career 32% 3 point shooter and can't even get more than 20 minutes in a Phoenix team that is one of the worst in the league.

Considering we will likely not re sign Neal and De Colo has hardly covered himself in glory, we could definitely use another ball handler in the second unit.

[Richie]

I like the idea of Garcia or Brewer at the backup 3. Evans isn't necessarily a bad idea but there a lot of question marks there. He's still very young though so that's nice.

Brewer isn't a good enough shooter, but I think Garcia would be a great pick up for the room exception. If we go for a big man with our cap space (which I hope we do), I'm hoping we grab Garcia.

[Duncan2177]

Brewer isn't a good enough shooter, but I think Garcia would be a great pick up for the room exception. If we go for a big man with our cap space (which I hope we do), I'm hoping we grab Garcia.

Since when was Garcia a bigman?

[Chinook]

I disagree with almost everything you've said. Pierce is like a much, much better version of Jackson. He's an elite 3 point shooter, a elite clutch player and can still do a job defensively. It was only last year the Celtics took the Heat to 7 games with Pierce defending Lebron most of that time.

You say theres no reason to think he will accept a backup role. I'd say there's no reason to think he wouldn't. He doesn't have to chase rings, if he doesn't want a backup role he can just retire. If he would be willing to sign here, it shows he would be willing to play that role.

Even if you disagree with that assessment, why could you possibly think Wes Johnson is a better option? The dude is a career 32% 3 point shooter and can't even get more than 20 minutes in a Phoenix team that is one of the worst in the league.

Considering we will likely not re sign Neal and De Colo has hardly covered himself in glory, we could definitely use another ball handler in the second unit.

Pierce can still be a starter on a lot of teams. As I said before, he's possibly still better than Leonard at this point. On the Heat, for example, he'd start next to James and Wade even though he doesn't really fit. If he could start on the Heat, why would he want to be a backup in San Antonio?

Pierce isn't a bad player by any means, but he's not what the Spurs need. It's the same reason why Ginobili still comes off bench. Ball-dominators tend not to play as well together. Ginobili and Parker have years of chemistry together, which allows them to move past that someone, but that wouldn't be the same with Pierce.

Wes Johnson is no ace, but he'd be cheap -- like cheap enough to allow the Spurs to get a $10-13 (in your estimate) Million big -- and he has the potential to fit exactly what the Spurs want, now and especially in the future. As for him not getting minutes with Phoenix, Green got cut from a much worse team and he's turned out all right. Johnson has the potential to do that and still have his athletic upside.

I know people want to think the best way to prop open the Spurs' window is to bring in the biggest names they can, but I'm not sure they agree. They are where they are because of the role-players they've developed/brought over. They should stick with that instead of going for the ready-made players. I'm not saying I'd be upset if they signed Pierce, but unless it were for the room exception, I wouldn't think of it as the best way to use their resources.

[Richie]

Since when was Garcia a bigman?

Sorry, I wasn't clear. If we go for a big man, I hope we sign Garcia for the Room Exception afterwards.

[exstatic]

If the spurs are going to make a "splash" in FA, I'd rather they pay a SG like Evans. Casspi or/and Bertans should be great at the back up 3 role.

Evans is a restricted FA. Sacto ain't gonna lose him for nothin'.

[exstatic]

Brewer isn't a good enough shooter, but I think Garcia would be a great pick up for the room exception. If we go for a big man with our cap space (which I hope we do), I'm hoping we grab Garcia.

Kawhi was a below average college (shorter distance) 3 point shooter. That's why we have the best shooting coach in the business.

[Richie]

Kawhi was a below average college (shorter distance) 3 point shooter. That's why we have the best shooting coach in the business.

These comments are getting pretty tiresome. The way people talk, people seem to think Chip get Shaq shooting 40% from the corner. No matter what player is suggested, regardless of how poor a 3 point shooter, Chip can fix it.

The reality is that the Spurs saw that Kawhi was a poor shooter because he had a simple problem with his mechanics that they thought would be easy to fix. Chip is an excellent shooting coach because he can fix problems that are fixable, and the Spurs are excellent at identifying those players.

Does that me he could turn Brewer in to a good shooter? Maybe, but maybe not. It's just irritating that no matter who is suggested, everyone just says Chip'll fix it. Dude is a 29% career 3 point shooter, has been in the league 6 years and his percentages are getting worse every year.

[bluebellmaniac]

These comments are getting pretty tiresome. The way people talk, people seem to think Chip get Shaq shooting 40% from the corner. No matter what player is suggested, regardless of how poor a 3 point shooter, Chip can fix it.

The reality is that the Spurs saw that Kawhi was a poor shooter because he had a simple problem with his mechanics that they thought would be easy to fix. Chip is an excellent shooting coach because he can fix problems that are fixable, and the Spurs are excellent at identifying those players.

Does that me he could turn Brewer in to a good shooter? Maybe, but maybe not. It's just irritating that no matter who is suggested, everyone just says Chip'll fix it. Dude is a 29% career 3 point shooter, has been in the league 6 years and his percentages are getting worse every year.

Me thinks that Richie=Chip Engelland in real life. He sees the work that is being made for him by ST fans.... giving him a headache!

LOL! Sorry, couldn't resist

[exstatic]

These comments are getting pretty tiresome. The way people talk, people seem to think Chip get Shaq shooting 40% from the corner. No matter what player is suggested, regardless of how poor a 3 point shooter, Chip can fix it.

The reality is that the Spurs saw that Kawhi was a poor shooter because he had a simple problem with his mechanics that they thought would be easy to fix. Chip is an excellent shooting coach because he can fix problems that are fixable, and the Spurs are excellent at identifying those players.

Does that me he could turn Brewer in to a good shooter? Maybe, but maybe not. It's just irritating that no matter who is suggested, everyone just says Chip'll fix it. Dude is a 29% career 3 point shooter, has been in the league 6 years and his percentages are getting worse every year.

I've seen his two biggest projects, Tony Parker, who couldn't shoot a clay pigeon, and Kawhi, and I'm a believer. It wouldn't shock me if he'd been working with Tim. He shot a career high from the FT line, and his jumper is better than it's EVER been.

You can choose to be a skeptic, but I guarantee you that you're shouting into the wind. There's a reason they stole him from George Karl, and it ain't because what he does doesn't work.

[Mal]

I've seen his two biggest projects, Tony Parker, who couldn't shoot a clay pigeon, and Kawhi, and I'm a believer. It wouldn't shock me if he'd been working with Tim. He shot a career high from the FT line, and his jumper is better than it's EVER been.

You can choose to be a skeptic, but I guarantee you that you're shouting into the wind. There's a reason they stole him from George Karl, and it ain't because what he does doesn't work.

Add George Hill to the list.

[elemento]

Since when was Garcia a bigman?

You got it wrong. Richie wants SA to use the room exception on Garcia and THE CAP SPACE on a BIG. (I want the same thing). To me it doesn't make any sense to spend a lot of money on a backup for Leonard.

And I agree with Chino's post entirely. Nobody is saying that Pierce is a bad player. He is still a vey good player, even at his age. But considering salary, age and the position that he plays, he is not the best target for SA.

Get a cheap backup for Leonard and spend the money on a good BIG. That should be the plan.

[Mel_13]

Most likely goes to one of the LA teams. He's from LA and he's better than both in bent starting SFs.

[bluebellmaniac]

You got it wrong. Richie wants SA to use the room exception on Garcia and THE CAP SPACE on a BIG. (I want the same thing). To me it doesn't make any sense to spend a lot of money on a backup for Leonard.

And I agree with Chino's post entirely. Nobody is saying that Pierce is a bad player. He is still a vey good player, even at his age. But considering salary, age and the position that he plays, he is not the best target for SA.

Get a cheap backup for Leonard and spend the money on a good BIG. That should be the plan.

Agreed. We need to rent a vet for a season or two, for cheap, at SF until Bertans is ready to go. Our cap space should go toward a 4/5 player. We should also draft a SG if we can get quality at our spot in the 1st.

[Captivus]

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[100%duncan]

Paul Pierce isn't a 2 guard, guys. Not sure how he'd fit here. I'd love it, but he'd basically be taking Kawhi's minutes.

Tbh, we should find a way to get Pierce and Gasol. Then we'll be the great team of le-winning veterans going for one last hoorah! 30+ year old le-winning players including Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Tim Duncan, Paul Pierce, and Paul Gasol!

I'm salivating over that thought. Team TOSB tbh but that 5 will win a championship.

[moisaenz]

These comments are getting pretty tiresome. The way people talk, people seem to think Chip get Shaq shooting 40% from the corner. No matter what player is suggested, regardless of how poor a 3 point shooter, Chip can fix it.

The reality is that the Spurs saw that Kawhi was a poor shooter because he had a simple problem with his mechanics that they thought would be easy to fix. Chip is an excellent shooting coach because he can fix problems that are fixable, and the Spurs are excellent at identifying those players.

Does that me he could turn Brewer in to a good shooter? Maybe, but maybe not. It's just irritating that no matter who is suggested, everyone just says Chip'll fix it. Dude is a 29% career 3 point shooter, has been in the league 6 years and his percentages are getting worse every year.

I do not think Pierce would improve his shooting from three even if he worked with Chip the whole summer. Pierce seems like a stubborn guy, and you can not teach an old dog new tricks.

[Mal]

This really could happen. He wont go to Lakers, Knicks and Heat. He isnt a good fit for Nuggets and Warriors. Spurs and Memphis are teams, in which he`ll adapt easilly and could chase a ring.

[td4mvp2k]

im 4 PP if he is a FA.... spurs need him!

[exstatic]

This really could happen. He wont go to Lakers, Knicks and Heat. He isnt a good fit for Nuggets and Warriors. Spurs and Memphis are teams, in which he`ll adapt easilly and could chase a ring.

He's from LA.

[Mal]

He's from LA.

I was referring to Lakers - Celtics overall hatred.

[exstatic]

I was referring to Lakers - Celtics overall hatred.

Rick Fox was drafted by the Celtics and got rings with the Lakers. The hatred thing is way over rated. If the money and the team fit are good, he'll be a Laker.

[cdcast]

If Doc and KG go to Clippers, Pierce will sign with them.

[Mal]

Rick Fox was drafted by the Celtics and got rings with the Lakers. The hatred thing is way over rated. If the money and the team fit are good, he'll be a Laker.

Rick Fox`s shirt wasnt going to hang in TD Garden. Besides, Lakers arent winning next year, who wouldnt want to play there..