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Without looking it up he has to be shooting <30% on 3pt shots this series.... and instead of driving and getting fouls. or hitting midrange. or posting up smaller guards... he continues to shoot these ty TY bricks.
Of course you stick with the franchise to the end. He clearly had his worst playoff game probably in his career, there's no doubt about that too.
But Pop knows you stick with the guys that got you here. As Trainwreck said, he's a big part of what the Spurs do.
Without looking it up he has to be shooting <30% on 3pt shots this series.... and instead of driving and getting fouls. or hitting midrange. or posting up smaller guards... he continues to shoot these ty TY bricks.
is it too late to bring Stephen Jackson back?? seriously.
Dude can still make timely plays, but don't force the issue. Heat specially capitalizes on turnovers better than any other team. Manu needs to protect the ball, run solid defense, shoot when he's open. Spurs need solid plays from him, not tricks. I like him on Game 7 with TP and Duncan, but he needs to play smart.
Besides all of his ill-advised turnovers, what's up with the obvious flopping on defense? You cannot guard anyone if you're on the floor. Manu was horrible on both ends of the court. He even manage to work in another one of his infamous "and-1" fouls on Lebron. Again, if you're gonna foul a player, don't let him make the shot too. I often wonder why he doesn't get criticized more for these kinds of mistakes.
I love Manu and the contributions he's made to this team over his great career. However, no one can make excuses for his growing resume of continuous poor play - not even Pop. I know Manu is sick about his own performance, but it's time to face facts. The Manu we saw in Game 5 was an exception. The Manu we saw in Game 6 now appears to be the norm.
Except for that Tim Duncan guy in Game 6 of the NBA Finals..ooops
Where is this myth that Ginobili "got us here" not this season he didnt. he was injured for most of it. playin ty for most of the rest of it. never found his rhythm all playoffs and only had 3 *Decent* games in these playoffs.
Ginobili, overall, with his salary and play and health, has been a NET LIABILITY to this franchise this season.
there. i said it.
Manu didn't get the Spurs here. His play throughout the playoffs has consistently been something his teammates have to overcome in order to advance. Nothing he did earlier in his career matters in these playoffs. All that matters is how you play now... and he's playing terrible.
-21 in Game 6
-22 in Game 4
-23 in Game 2
You have to put your team in the best spot to win games. It is pretty dang hard to overcome what Manu is doing out there.
Shut it down!!!!!!!!! Lets go home!!!!!!!!!!
I never give up on Manu.
It's so sad. Just all of it.
This is silly. Kawhi missed more games than Manu this season. The whole "he was injured the most of it" is just a knee jerk reaction out of anger. I understand.
This system was built around our big 3. TD, TP and Manu off the bench. He's an integral part of what this team does, and Pop will be the first to tell you this team has no shot without Manu.
As Trainwreck pointed out, we have nobody to create a shot or draw attention outside our big 3. And when Manu is out there with the bench, it's just him. Of course he got us here.
All tha said, I've defended Manu many times this season, and this series. Tonight he was awful. In no other game he had as many turnovers as he had today. That was a terrible, terrible game from him. Easily the worst playoff game of his career. Just inexcusable at this level.
LMAO, Manu did not get us anywhere. He has been ing up all playoffs. The guy made a buzzer beater to win a game in the second round. Big ing deal. You can take your "Manu can do no wrong" mentality, and his PER, and GTFO w/ that noise.
Typical.
Pop has also proven he will feed BS to reporters or flat out refuse to answer questions. So what he will tell you doesn't really matter, since it is nothing more than Coach-speak.
The statistics do matter though. In every finals game except game 5, the Spurs have been better with Manu on the bench. He makes bad decisions is several facets of the game, and he is no longer young enough to consistently make up for those bad decisions with his athleticism. So just stop with this crap about the team having no shot without Manu. They clearly have a shot without him when the stats show they have been consistently better with him on the bench.
that. 3 more years, 28 mil.
WAAAAAAH, WAAAAAAAAH, WAAAAAAAAAH.
Why didn't Kawhi ice the game at the line?
May I join you in the Manu homer club kind sir... I'll never abandon my favorite Spurs Player of all time.
Yup, because he really created a lot of shots tonight.. He wasn't looking to score, he was looking to make ty passes the whole night. 34 minutes and 9 points? that's not creating your own shot.
You can still cheer for him on the bench.
He saved the bacon in many playoffs games before, maybe not this year, but over the years. We just took it for granted because, well, he's Ginobili. As baseline said, I have no problem with Pop sticking with him at the end. That's why you stick with the guy.
But sure, he had a horrible game. I can't disagree with that. And his age and the role he's played overall in this series, he no longer can be the 'top guy' on any bench unit. Miami is that good.
That's why I thought Pop shouldn't have rolled with that lineup to start the 4th. Didn't like Tiago one bit either. That combo just hasn't worked this series.
x 1,000
I'm not kidding when I say it's a tough call between Manu or just rolling with four guys. Seriously. He would be a million times better if, instead of passing or shooting, he just held onto the rock until the shot clock ran down and then hustled back on D. He is worse than a flat tire; he's a g'damn saboteur.
I agree that Manu was ing awful. I'm just letting S T know where I stand. We still have one more shot to beat these bags.
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