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What is I work in imaging and don't live in Florida, Alex?
He's making up as he goes along and it amuses me. What do low pass mean?
Why didn't the judge consult you for your expertise?
Thanks, Dr. Google. This is neither here nor there. In truth you can filter out unwanted noise above a certain threshold if you know the approximate volume of what you are trying to isolate. That still has nothing to do with the bus size.
What is I work in imaging and don't live in Florida, Alex?
He's making up as he goes along and it amuses me. What do low pass mean?
FabbsWhy didn't the judge consult you for your expertise?Trill Clinton most kids trayvon's age are thug wannabe's. every kid from the hood to the suburb imitates the gangsta rapper,
I was simply asking. You are strawing that i was griping.
Casey Anthony cost FL taxpayers over a million. I guess she is off the street.
LOL...
Fuzzy is still incapable of telling us how I am wrong. Why should that ever change?
That's not how it works, you made the claim. You just made the claim that lower amplitudes could not be used to determine voice.
We can hear the screaming on the recording. We can isolate the screaming. You don't even know how much data is required for voice analysis nor do you know the amplitude range before clipping or the amplitude range at all, nor do you even know where the screaming falls in that. But you then make up an assumption that you want to hear anyway based on bull that you made up.
What else is new indeed. You don't know , make stuff up to fill in the gaps in a way that just so happens get the guy that killed the black kid off.
I take it Fuzzy you think the judge made a grave error?
Follow the conversation and try again.
If you need me to walk you through it then let me know.
i don't need you.
You are the one that is asking me questions.
Cobra,
Is FuzzyTroll a Rumphumper cousin?
If you say so. Apparently you do need to be walked through it.
WC was making comments about what an audio signal expert would say. I started asking him how he would know that one way or the other. As expected he began googling in order to see like he know what he was talking about. I then started making fun of him because of it.
I at no point made a comment about how good the evidence in question was. I never implied along those lines either.
I get that you don't like having your stupidity demonstrated point by point. Chump does it the Socratic method of asking questions. I don't do that. Read up a bit and perhaps you will catch nuances like that.
But other then that have a nice death in a bus fire.
If the same expert and the same technology had it as Zimmerman screaming Fuzzy would be demanding it not be admissible because the technology wasn't universally accepted.
opening arguments from prosecution: "21 days removed from his 16th year, was face down in his last breaths
Witness 8 heard tray say "what are you following me for"
GZ didn't want to go to the hospital after his "life threatening injuries"
link: http://t.co/DxxJDysYOu
They will still use the audio and the lawyers will present a likely scenerio to show how it's more likely Trayvon's voice as opposed to the liar Zimmerman.
One of O.J. Simpsons scheme team was being interviewed and the interviewer made the same point.
"How about if you were paid to find Simpson guilty? You would come up with reasons why, correct?"
It made him STFU immediately.
easy to see what george did with his money, lol.
Best comment I've read yet: the jury is a compromise, no blacks vs. no white men = white women.
I've been told that Z's shirt has grass stains on the back and T's only grass stains are on is knees. Z's lawyer hasn't mentioned that. Saving it for the end?
You'd have to suspend common sense to believe the screaming came from anyone other than GZ. The photos proved he was the one getting beat on, not TM. It was reported TM had broken skin on his knuckles. I never saw a report about what kind of marks were on TM's face, but from the photos of GZ's hands, it's a safe bet there were no marks on TM's face. GZ was hoping someone would hear his cries which went on for a relatively long period of time(30 seconds maybe), which shows he was reluctant to pull out his weapon before he felt it was necessary.
12:30 p.m. ET: Judge Nelson has recessed court for lunch. The live blog will resume when court picks back up at 1:30 p.m. ET.
12:29 p.m. ET:Follow me @vinniepolitan to be alerted to all the big moments in the #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman trial... including the VERDICT...12:27 p.m. ET: West said some photos of Zimmerman's injuries were taken later that night and they look better. because they had been cleaned up.
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12:23 p.m. ET: "What you can really see in these pictures that you will have in evidence are the lumps. The big knots on each side of his head. Consistent with having his (Zimmerman's) head slammed into concrete," said West.
12:20 p.m. ET: West said a witness saw Martin on top of Zimmerman during the altercation.
12:17 p.m. ET: West said a paramedic treating Zimmerman at the scene recommended that he be taken to a hospital. West said police said they would take care of transporting him, but it never happened.
12:14 p.m. ET: West is showing a picture of Martin at the convenience store moments before being shot to show the jurors how tall he was. He says Martin was a little over six feet tall.
12:11 p.m. ET: The witnesses at the scene did not know Martin, and no one could identify him according to West,
12:08 p.m. ET: West is explaining the characteristics of the gun Zimmerman used to shoot Martin, and how he was using it properly.
12:06 p.m. ET:Did you catch the joke by defense attorney Don West? http://t.co/Se1jHcK9l0 Special coverage of the #ZimmermanTrial continues live at 12pET.12:02 p.m. ET: West showed a picture of a bloody gash on the back of Zimmerman's head taken moments after the shooting.
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"George Zimmerman says (to a witness) he was beating me up and I shot him," said West.
11:58 a.m. ET: "You can hear the cries for help up until the moment of the shot," said West.
11:55 a.m. ET: West said it was difficult to make out faces the night of the shooting, but witnesses could identify the color of people's clothing.
11:52 a.m. ET: West said witness Jana Serdaka claims she saw Martin and Zimmerman at the time of the shot, but she was wrong about what happened. She says she saw Zimmerman on top of Martin, but West says if she saw Zimmerman on top of Martin it was after he hired fired the gun.
11:48 a.m ET: West said the 911 call was recorded about 30 or 40 feet away from where the shooting took place, and presents certain "acoustical challenges."
11:46 a.m. ET: Martin's mother Sybrina Fulton left the courtroom as the 911 call was played in court. Zimmerman did not show any emotion as the call was played.
11:44 a.m. ET: West is playing for the jurors a 911 call a neighbor made, where it is possible to hear the screams and the shot in the background.
11:40 a.m. ET: West is using the map of the neighborhood to explain to the jury where two witnesses live that heard the altercation between Zimmerman and Martin.
11:37 a.m. ET: "At the moment this actually became physical was that Trayvon Martin. I will use my words, that Trayvon Martin decided to confront George Zimmerman. That instead of going home. He had plenty of time. This is what 60 or 70 yards. Plenty of time. He could of gone back and forth four or five times," said West.
11:32 a.m. ET: West is playing the non-emergency call Zimmerman made the night of the shooting for the jury again.
11:30 a.m. ET: West is showing a picture of the scene taken the night of the shooting to demonstrate how it was almost pitch black around the time of the shooting.
11:27 a.m. ET: Periodically, West is displaying quotes from the non-emergency call Zimmerman made the night of the shooting.
11:23 a.m. ET: West agrees with the prosecution that Zimmerman did say "(expletive) punks" on the non-emergency call.
11:21 a.m. ET: West is walking the jury through the moments leading up to the confrontation between Zimmerman and Martin.
11:17 a.m. ET: "In fact, there was an attempted break in a couple of weeks before (the shooting)," said West.
11:15 a.m. ET: West is showing the jury Martin's phone records to demostrate what phone calls line up with Zimmerman's calls.
11:12 a.m. ET: At the end of the call, Zimmerman asks for the responding officer to call him when they arrive at the scene.
11:11 a.m. ET: The dispatcher asks Zimmerman if he is following him, and the operator tells him that they don't need him to follow him.
11:09 a.m. ET: On the recording, Zimmerman can be heard telling the dispatcher that he sees a su ious person in his neighborhood, and they have had a lot crime in the area recently. He also says the su ious person appears to be "black."
11:07 a.m. ET: West is now going to play Zimmerman's non-emergency call for the jury.
11:06 a.m. ET: West is showing the jury a picture of the spot where Martin was shot to illustrate where someone lived when they called 911 after hearing the altercation between Martin and Zimmerman.
11:03 a.m. ET: The defense has prepared a timeline for the jury that shows the sequential events based on the non-emergency call made by Zimmerman.
11:01 a.m. ET: West is explaining how Martin was on the phone with a girl around the time of the shooting.
11:00 a.m. ET: "Little did George Zimmerman know at the time in less than 10 minutes from him first seeing Travyon Martin that he, George Zimmerman, would be suckered punched in the face, have his head pounded on concrete and wind up shooting and tragically killing Trayvon Martin," said West.
10:57 a.m. ET: West is describing the character of the neighborhood. He says Zimmerman left his house to go to Target just a few min after 7 p.m. that night, he got to the exit of the neighborhood and sees a person later identified as Martin.
10:54 a.m. ET: West is displaying an aerial map of Zimmerman's neighborhood to the jury explaining how the shooting happened that night.
10:52 a.m. ET: West said Zimmerman is not guilty of murder, because he shot Martin in self-defense after being "viciously attacked."
10:51 a.m. ET: West just told the jury a joke.
"Knock, knock, 'whose there?' 'George Zimmerman.' 'George Zimmerman who?' 'Alright, good you are on the jury.'"
10:46 a.m. ET: West is explaining to the jury why Zimmerman's parents are not allowed in the courtroom.
10:45 a.m. ET: West begins his opening statement saying, "This is a sad case of course."
"A young man lost his life, another is fighting for his."
10:43 a.m. ET: The jury is being seated, and defense attorney Don West is about to give his opening statement.
10:38 a.m. ET: Judge Nelson is back on the stand, the attorneys have joined her for a sidebar.
10:29 a.m. ET: From HLN's producer in the courtroom:
"During this recess defense attorneys are readying a series of exhibits that are being displayed via power point."
10:11 a.m. ET: Court is now in a 15 minute recess, before the defense will give its opening statement.
10:10 a.m. ET: "We are confident that at the end of this trial you will know in your head, in your heart, in your stomach that George Zimmerman did not shot Trayvon Martin, because he had to. He shot him for the worst of all reasons, because he wanted to. Thank you for your time." said Guy wrapping his opening statement.
10:08 a.m. ET: Guy said Martin's injuries do not indicate that he fought with Zimmerman.
"He didn't have bruised knuckles. He didn't have swollen hands. The only injury to his hand that was capable of being photograph was a small abrasion on his left ring finger. Trayvon Martin was right handed. That was the only injury to his hands." said Guy.
10:05 a.m. ET: "He was told not to be the vigilante police," said Guy.
10:03 a.m. ET: Guy said the jury will hear a heart-wrenching 911 call, where they will hear Martin screaming, and he was silenced when Zimmerman pulled the trigger.
10:00 a.m. ET: Zimmerman was examined by a medical profession the morning after shooting and he had no major injuries and his nose was not broken according to Guy.
9:59 a.m. ET: Guy is explaining that there's no witnesses who saw what happened the night of the shooting from beginning to end. He says the witnesses the jury will hear from saw "slices" of what happened.
9:57 a.m. ET: Guy said ballistics indicate that Zimmerman pressed the gun against Martin's chest and pulled the trigger called a "contact shot."
9:55 a.m. ET: "The defendant claims that while Trayvon Martin was on top of him. He said, 'you are going to die to night,' Well ladies and gentlemen you are going to hear from people out there. Nobody heard that," said Guy.
9:52 a.m. ET: "The defendant told police that at one point while he was sitting in his car following Trayvon Martin. Trayvon Martin ran behind some townhomes, and then came back out circled his car and ran back again. Listen to the non-emergency call that happened in real time and you will see that didn't happen," said Guy.
9:49 a.m. ET: Guy says the jury will see exactly how Zimmerman looked after the confrontation with Martin. They will also see a video police shot at the scene of the killing of Zimmerman explaining what happened.
9:45 a.m. ET: Martin's father is crying as Guy details how officers tried to save his son's life on February 26, 2012.
9:42 a.m. ET: Zimmerman is staring straight ahead without any signs of emotion as Guy details how he allegedly killed Martin.
9:40 a.m. ET: Guy is walking the jury through Martin's last moments of his life.
9:37 a.m. ET: Prosecutor John Guy begins his opening statement by quoting Zimmmerman the night Martin was shot.
"[Expelitive] punks" said Guy. "They always get away."
9:30 a.m. ET: Nelson is instructing the jury of the responsibilities of their duty.
9:29 a.m. ET: The jury is seated, and opening statements should begin any minute.
9:22 a.m. ET: Nelson will allow all the statements the defense has requested to be admissible. The attorneys are now at a sidebar with the judge.
9:21 a.m. ET: Nelson rules that two statements are admissible. However, she has a question about a statement Zimmerman made to the police officer who arrived on the scene.
9:17 a.m. ET: The court PIO told HLN that as of this morning the jury is sequestered.
9:16 a.m. ET: Nelson and the prosecutors are reviewing a motion from the defense regarding "res gestae" statements these are the spontaneous statements that Zimmerman made in the moments and minutes after the alleged crime. West wants to use the statements in openings, so the Nelson will have a hearing on it now.
9:14 a.m. ET: Defense attorney Don West is asking Nelson about some statements he wants to use in his opening statements. Nelson said they need to have a hearing on the statements before opening statements can begin.
9:11 a.m. ET: Nelson said Martin family attorney Ben Crump cannot attend the trial until she has a chance to review the case law and to make a ruling on the issue.
9:07 a.m. ET: Zimmerman's family members who are not expected to testify can attend the trial.
9:05 a.m. ET: Nelson ruled that Zimmerman's family must leave the courtroom, because they are potential witnesses. Martin's family can attend the trial due to an exception to the rule of sequestration. The rule requires says all potential witnesses cannot attend the trial.
9:02 a.m. ET: Judge Debra Nelson is on the bench. She has asked the attorneys if there is any issues they need to discuss before bringing in the jury.
8:56 a.m. ET: Opening statements should begin in a few minutes.
8:33 a.m. ET: Martin's mother Sybrina Fulton and his father Tracy Martin gave a brief statement asking for prayers saying that no one should have to go through an ordeal like this.
"I am here today as Trayvon Martin's mother as I have been everyday. I will be attending this court to try to get justice for my son."
8:29 a.m. ET: "We think this is a simple case." said Martin Family attorney Ben Crump. "We believe the evidence is overwhelming to hold George Zimmerman accountable for killing Trayvon Martin."
8:21 a.m. ET: Martin's parents are expected to make a statement in the courtroom any minute.
fat mexican ought not to have fooled with young black who Standing His Ground
the defense lawyer opened with a knock-knock joke
trayvon had no scars on his fists from almost beating zimmerman to death
You don't have a right to attack someone for following you.
The defense lawyer started out as a trainwreck, but he's been really good since. The lack of damage on T's hands is bad for Z for sure, but if that MMA witness is legit then that's really bad for T though.
If you feel threatened, you can Stand Your Ground legally in FL.
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