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    The benefits were created to support stay at home mothers. Is saying I'm not losing sleep over it equal outrage?

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    no, the Dems are as less, spineless as any gun fellator
    or RSS fellator.

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    Does anyone think that in b_d's house a light begins flashing red, he turns his chair toward a different computer then starts paying as we? Like he alternates based on the randomly timed flashing of red and blue lights.

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    What percentage of gay Americans would be fully okay with gay marriage being legal nationwide on the exception that polygamy and bigamy are legal as well? I thought gays and lesbians were supposed to be bright shining examples of being warriors of equality and tolerance. I don't care if two dudes want to have a wedding and call their union a marriage. I just think gay people are huge hypocrites if they want to be allowed to get married but oppose polygamy or bigamy.

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    What percentage of gay Americans would be fully okay with gay marriage being legal nationwide on the exception that polygamy and bigamy are legal as well?
    I don't think gay Americans are as obsessed with polygamy and bigamy as you are.

    What has the gay community ever said to give you the impression they oppose polygamy and bigamy?

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    The benefits were created to support stay at home mothers. Is saying I'm not losing sleep over it equal outrage?
    You said you had a problem with it which is outrage to a certain extent. Why do you not have the same "problem" with women in straight marriages who work outside the house but get the benefits stay at home moms were supposed to get?

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    the Patriot Act was a Repug creation signed by a Repug President. That Dems voted for it doesn't say they created it.
    It says they supported it.

    Obama's bipartisan agreement with Bush about the Patriot Act is something only a knuckle dragging re would try to justify.

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    What's wrong with wanting Big Love? If you are supportive of gay marriage and equality, then you would have to support polygamy and bigamy as well. If you didn't support a person's choice to have multiple spouses, then you would be a bigot. I love it when sexuals and sexual groups try to deflect that. They only give a about themselves. They couldn't give a flying about other groups. And this whole debate isn't about equality. It's about a group of people that are pissed off that they aren't getting their piece of the pie. They want their benefits just like straight married couples get. That's all it is. I just wish people would step up and admit that.
    Why should they give a about other groups?

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    It says they supported it.

    Obama's bipartisan agreement with Bush about the Patriot Act is something only a knuckle dragging re would try to justify.
    *cue RSS/Meme storm*

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    What percentage of gay Americans would be fully okay with gay marriage being legal nationwide on the exception that polygamy and bigamy are legal as well? I thought gays and lesbians were supposed to be bright shining examples of being warriors of equality and tolerance. I don't care if two dudes want to have a wedding and call their union a marriage. I just think gay people are huge hypocrites if they want to be allowed to get married but oppose polygamy or bigamy.
    This makes about zero sense. I mean, you're really going to conflate a mutually exclusive relationship with polygamy?

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    when has the gay community ever spoken out against polygamy???


    lol jacobidontcareaboutthegheys

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    *cue RSS/Meme storm*
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    beastiality...don't leave that out, er!

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    What's wrong with wanting Big Love? If you are supportive of gay marriage and equality, then you would have to support polygamy and bigamy as well. If you didn't support a person's choice to have multiple spouses, then you would be a bigot. I love it when sexuals and sexual groups try to deflect that. They only give a about themselves. They couldn't give a flying about other groups. And this whole debate isn't about equality. It's about a group of people that are pissed off that they aren't getting their piece of the pie. They want their benefits just like straight married couples get. That's all it is. I just wish people would step up and admit that.
    "If you are supportive of gay marriage and equality, then you would have to support polygamy and bigamy as well."

    Slippery slope logical fallacy. One does not necessarily mean the other, it is an artificial construct that only exists in your mind. The reason they deflect that is that it simply isn't their issue. It isn't some personal flaw or dishonesty on their part.

    Yes, it is partially about benefits, legal and financial. It is also about having a say in medical matters like any other spouse. If you live with and love somebody for decades, and then in your declining years, the single person who knows and cares about you the most in the world would not have a say in your care.

    To think it is *just* about financial matters is overly cynical and overly simplistic.

    Neither is a useful basis for thinking about real human beings.

    Do you really think simplifying the issue to one set of motivations is accurate?

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    I was going to conflate same-sex marriage with polygamy and bigamy, but then I remembered I'm not an idiot and can tell the difference between the number 1 and all other numbers.

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    I am just saying that a gay person is a bigot and hypocrite if they demand that they are able to marry their partner in love but strongly oppose a man/woman wanting to marry 2 or more women or men. You are a huge hypocrite if you cry and moan about gay marriage having to be legalized yet strongly opposing polygamy and bigamy. Where is the compassion and tolerance?

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    I realize they are separate issues but what should e the underlying issue us that the man-woman monogamy thing is a religious ins ution and needs to be excluded from consideration in law. Given that, the GOP s are right. Bigomists should get the same protection. Dogs, furniture et al are stupid because they are not eligible to be citizens because they aren't human.

    That being said, husband #2 shouldn't be ed out of marriage protections etc anymore that Susan and Wanda.

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    Anyone can be a bigot.

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    I am just saying that a gay person is a bigot and hypocrite if they demand that they are able to marry their partner in love but strongly oppose a man/woman wanting to marry 2 or more women or men. You are a huge hypocrite if you cry and moan about gay marriage having to be legalized yet strongly opposing polygamy and bigamy.
    Not necessarily. If all you are doing is working in your own self-interest, you won't care about anything else.

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    Isn't that what gay people are doing here? They are only pissed because they aren't getting their way. They don't give a about polygamy and bigamy supporters that's why they oppose them. They want their way but don't give a about anyone else. Again, where is the compassion and tolerance?

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    Isn't that what gay people are doing here? They are only pissed because they aren't getting their way. They don't give a about polygamy and bigamy supporters that's why they oppose them.
    How do you know they all oppose them?

    What does your boyfriend say?

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    Chumpdumper, you know that I am invincible to insults on here right? I have been called all sorts of names and insults. Do your worst.

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    I'm still waiting to be shown all these people who oppose polygamy and bigamy.

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    I am just saying that a gay person is a bigot and hypocrite if they demand that they are able to marry their partner in love but strongly oppose a man/woman wanting to marry 2 or more women or men. You are a huge hypocrite if you cry and moan about gay marriage having to be legalized yet strongly opposing polygamy and bigamy. Where is the compassion and tolerance?
    Let's treat your trolling seriously for just a second.

    I don't see anybody here "strongly opposing" anything. That is something you are making up in your mind.

    Since no one has expressed that strong opposition, that is a strawman logical fallacy.

    Description of Straw Man
    The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and subs utes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern:


    Person A has position X.
    Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
    Person B attacks position Y.
    Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.
    Random Guy (Person A) has a position that gay people should be allowed to legally marry.(Position X)
    Jacob1983 (Person B) says that RandomGuy "strongly opposes polygamy and bigamy"(Position Y, which is a distortion.. well actually completely made up, a lie, in essence)
    Jacob1983 (person B)then says Randomguy is a hypocrite (attacks) for strongly opposing polygamy and bigamy (position Y).
    Therefore the position that gays should be allowed to legally marry is flawed, i.e. hypocritical.

    --------------------------------------

    Now the intellectul side of me doesn't really oppose such per se. If three people, all consenting adults, really really really want to get triple married, I don't see that as any of my damn business either, other than the fact that such arrangments would be ripe for abuse. Not quite strong opposition.

    That is, however, as has been pointed out to your dumb ass, an entirely seperate issue.

    I assume you can, as scott can, tell the difference between one, and other numbers that are not one, yes?

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    Isn't that what gay people are doing here? They are only pissed because they aren't getting their way. They don't give a about polygamy and bigamy supporters that's why they oppose them. They want their way but don't give a about anyone else. Again, where is the compassion and tolerance?
    In your mind, I suppose. Do you always lie about what other people believe, or just this one time?

    I'm confused.

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