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    The same Millsap who had 70% of his attempts be jumpshots, and has seen his rebounding percentage fall by almost 25% the past 5 years? That Paul Millsap?

    For the record, I actually like him as a player, but it's laughable to suggest that 6'7 (on a good day) PF is going to "PUNISH" teams for going small.

    Or provide the quality team defense a 6'11'' guy does, but in the world of delusional Spur fans the grass is always greener on the other side. Until you realize the other side is mostly piles of (not that I don't like Milsap) when forced into this team-oriented system.

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    Too much for a guy that couldn't even find the floor in the Finals. Sorry Tiago. I liked how you ran the pick-and-roll and your solid defense, but see ya man.
    Splitter wasn't a good fit in that series. He played well against Memphis. He is a role player, going to be an expensive role player but one none the less a role player. Duncan and Parker are the stars of this team and need to should the biggest load.

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    After thinking long and hard, you gotta sign Splitter. He's too smart of a player and works too well in the Spurs system not to. He also loves his teammates and has a great at ude. He's just gotta get his confidence up and learn not to bring the ball down low when in traffic. He is a great post defender and is pretty decent in the pick n roll. LeBron is the one guy in the league that can expose any possible weakness. Outside of the Miami series he played very well. Fans need to start forgiving the guy.

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    I think Tiago not playing like crap would've made a lot of difference in the finals. Everyone wants to bash Manu for his poor play but honestly Tiago was a big letdown. He should've bullied the Miami bigs. I love Tiago and hope he stays, but he's GOT to improve his presence around the rim.
    Tiago wasn't payed 14 million last year. When you're payed star money, I expect you to at least not be a liability(like Ginobili was for most of the playoffs)

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    PER Centers (Hollinger has Duncan and Diaw as Forwards)

    21st Sanders
    22nd Splitter
    23rd Dalembert

    37th Asik
    38th Blair
    39th Bogut

    VA Centers
    18th Garnett
    19th Splitter
    20th Sanders

    37th Dalembert
    38th Blair
    39th Pachulia

    For whatever reason Basketball-Reference has Splitter as a PF.
    Win shares for all F&C except those listed as F-G.

    12th Horford
    13th Duncan
    14th Splitter
    15th Randolph

    37th Landry
    38th Leonard
    39th Anthony Davis

    42nd Sanders
    43rd Green (forward?)
    44th Monroe

    67th Cousins
    68th Diaw
    69th Favors

    No other Spur in top 100

    Win Share/48

    5th Marc Gasol
    6th Splitter
    7th Griffin
    8th Duncan
    9th Brooks Lopez

    22nd Faried
    23rd Leonard
    24th McGee

    64th Thabeet
    65th Bonner (yes, per 48 Bonner was better than Kevin Garnett)
    66th Garnett

    69th Pendergraph
    70th Green
    71st Terrence Jones

    74th Valanciunis
    75th Blair
    76th Booker

    82nd Aldridge
    83rd Diaw (yes, per 48 Diaw was almost as good as Larmarcus Aldridge)
    84th Hayward

    No other Spurs in top 100

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    Dude we were good enough to win this year. One rebound or one made free throw would've changed everything.
    But Spiltter did not contribute in the finals.. He's soft..

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    The same Millsap who had 70% of his attempts be jumpshots, and has seen his rebounding percentage fall by almost 25% the past 5 years? That Paul Millsap?

    For the record, I actually like him as a player, but it's laughable to suggest that 6'7 (on a good day) PF is going to "PUNISH" teams for going small.
    This. It would be Malik Rose and Dejuan Blair all over again.

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    Spur fan expecting a good big to sign for the MLE per par.

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    Sign and trade for Robinson tbh.

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    Exactly what Benefactor said. The numbers mentioned in the report seem about right. Yes, it's true Splitter pussed out in the Finals. Yes, I'd be worried about Splitter being injury prone during the life of the contract. But big men (especially with the skill set that Tiago possesses) aren't easy to find and in this NBA economy, that's the going rate. Paul Milsap - please. His atheleticism and over achieving motor is his strength but that's going to deteriorate sooner than later as he's getting older and even with that, he's not worth a big contract. Dude is a small forward playing in the front court. People should stop throwing names around as if this is some fantasy basketball league. As an example, Jarret Jack is a chucker - I'll be it, a good one with a clutch shot. Even with GS, he goes outside of team ball while he's playing the point. Is Gary Neal a chucker? To the nth degree but while I would like for him to be replaced in the rotation, Neal will demand far less $ (without it being a terrible long term contract) than many of the names being mentioned. I hope the Spurs can upgrade the swingman and/or frontcourt depth, but there are so many stupid GMs willing to overpay above average talent that it's not worth the Spurs getting in a pissing contest over hyped names.

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    3yrs/25million is a more than fair deal for a big of Tiago's caliber.

    I was very disappointed in his play in the Finals but, at this point, it's in the Spurs' best interest to re-sign him to a fair deal if they want to keep competing for les in the remaining Duncan era.

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    Wrong. We're expecting Manu Ginobili to retire or play for the veteran's minimum. Us non-homer Spurs fans are also expecting Tiago Splitter to take a $15 Million 3 year deal.

    Exactly. Spurs should let him walk and offer their remaining cap space to a quality big like David West or Al Jefferson.

    Wow, this sucks balls. I wanted Thomas Robinson.

    This. Doesn't do you any good to play well if you can't get to the finish line. Typical Tiago Splitter folding in the moment.

    Just like I said.

    Thank you.

    UNLESS we can sign a big free agent like Jarrett Jack. Also I like how everyone is taking Tim Duncan for granted and just automatically assuming that he's going to give us the same production next year. For God's sake I hope that you guys are right.

    This. Pop and his fuc*ing regular season rotations in the middle of the NBA Finals.

    Again people taking Tim Duncan for granted. Tiago has peaked.

    Just ignore benefactor. The guy is probably another Popsucker and Manu fan boy that trolls everyone that disagrees with him.

    Agree. I'm surprised to hear you criticizing a Spurs player. I'm proud of you.

    Bingo. Best comment that I've read so far.

    Cough... have Tim Duncan recruit Al Jefferson or David West. They both idolized Tim Duncan growing up and who knows, they might be willing to take a minor pay cut.

    Not a bad idea. I don't think Blatche plays any defense though. Maybe we can keep Splitter and get Blatche for cheap. Now that would be great.

    This. If we can keep Splitter but sign another big contributor like Jarrett Jack or Jose Calderon then I think most of our problems would be solved. We just got to hope that TD can play well for another year.

    Co-signed.

    Then you don't know shi* about basketball my friend.

    That's what I've been thinking all along. Right now that Splitter is in his prime and at his highest value on the market, why not S&T him for Ömer Aşık, Lamarcus Albridge, or a quality big man.

    I agree. We can probably convince him to play for cheap in SA, I mean I'm pretty sure that he's tired of losing.

    I know this scares me. Tiago making as much as Manu, Timmy, and Parker? Popsuckers and Manu worshippers are out of their fuc*ing mind.

    Well said. I wouldn't mind Kmart if the Spurs can get him for very cheap. He can still play defense and adds toughness to the team.

    LMAO. True.

    Nice comeback once again.

    I agree. David West would be the ideal Tiago replacement because he can play defense and also score over Norris Cole and Shane Battier.


















































































































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    I don't know why so many people say Splitter played so well in the playoffs and that the Spurs would'nt have gotten past Memphis or GS without him. Replace him with another big and the Spurs will be fine if not even better. I didn't see anything special from Splitter in the playoffs that any other center could not have done.

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    25/3 is very reasonable for TS. Posters forget that DeAndre Jordan and McGee are getting $10.5 and $10.75 a year and they're dumb as rocks. Big men get paid a premium. There's no other reasonable option out there. Spurs need TS for DH, Gasols, Randolphs in the West. Hopefully, Bynum stays in the East or else we'll really need TS.

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    Won't pay him more than 7M. Offense is adequate yes, but defense is nowhere near Rasho's. draft websites projected him to be like Pau Gasol. Nowhere near a rookie Pau Gasol at age 28.

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    david lee is owed 44 million

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    I don't know why so many people say Splitter played so well in the playoffs and that the Spurs would'nt have gotten past Memphis or GS without him. Replace him with another big and the Spurs will be fine if not even better. I didn't see anything special from Splitter in the playoffs that any other center could not have done.
    Which bigs do you have in mind?

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    Send an attractive enough package to Portland for Aldridge.

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    al jeffeson is going to the bobcats for much more money
    dw is to expensive

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    Send an attractive enough package to Portland for Aldridge.
    they turned down a david lee offer from gs
    they do not need tp
    he is the only spur player that is in david lee class

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    Has anyone thought about this? What if Tiago goes somewhere else AND we can't find a free agent who wants to come here? We'll end up paying big for a bad fit as well as a lower-skilled player. Our frontcourt lineup would be Tim, Diaw, Baynes, Bonner. You need at least one more big to fill that out when injuries happen. It's also not very intimidating.

    Tiago was not the problem in the finals, so pay the man and move on with the offseason.

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    oden would get a bigger offer from spurs

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    Send an attractive enough package to Portland for Aldridge.
    That package starts with Tony Parker......

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    they turned down a david lee offer from gs
    they do not need tp
    he is the only spur player that is in david lee class
    TP is better than Lee.

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