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Statistically, the last time I checked, the pick-and-rolls with Parker and Splitter were more effective than the pick-and-rolls with Ginobili and Splitter.
The major problem I can see with keeping Splitter around that long is that the Spurs HAVE to find a pick and roll passer/ball handler asap. Manu is nearing his last days as a player, and Splitter always thrived (in the regular season at least) with a tall pick and roll passer like Manu giving him easy looks.
Statistically, the last time I checked, the pick-and-rolls with Parker and Splitter were more effective than the pick-and-rolls with Ginobili and Splitter.
It was in the 7M to 9M range to me. Splitter made out pretty well. I like that it is only a 4 year contract that locks him up for his prime years. Hopefully he continues to improve. I'm partial to the move. The key is to find a new sixth man that can create on the dribble and moving Manu to role player status.
Parkers career high games in assists have come with him primarily passing to Splitter
the Ginobili-Splitter pick and roll is only more effective when Matt Bonner is on the floor since Manu loves the skip pass so much
Freetiago do you thin when Splitter has the ball in the post and has an advantage with a smaller player on him, he rushes a bit so he can do has move before he gets doubled?
and people wont acknowledge the fact that Popovitch at least intially respected Splitter defensive capabilties enough to even think of putting him on Wade who is statistically one of the best NBA Finals performers of all time
he wouldnt ever try that if the team had an Al Jefferson/Gortat or whoever else Spurfan thinks they could magically sign
Does everyone think that fourth year is fully guaranteed? Splitter had the Spurs over a barrel it seems and again, props for the Spurs stepping up to do what they can to keep the hopes alive for Tim/TP/Manu. I just wonder that with this money for Tiago, even though it does not impact the cap space Spurs could have this year, if it will force them to not go after FA's.
The part that is odd to me is that ASIK got his money because they were going to play him a lot of minutes and give him a shot to produce. Splitter got an amazing deal because he doesn't have to play starters minutes and he doesn't have to perform overall like ASIK for similar money.
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Yeah, Manu and Splitter pick-and-rolls don't work unless the three other players on the court are shooters. Parker and Splitter pick-and-rolls work in more situations -- mostly because Parker is a threat to turn the corner ... and Ginobili isn't at this point in his career.
I'd like to know two things
His salary next season and if the last year is fully guaranteed. Anyone knows it? Bruno, ace ?
no one really doubles Splitter
and no one has really seen enough of him in the post to get a complete scouting report on what he can do
the only thing I know he does too much that he shouldnt is that step-through move
its pre-scripted move he tries to pull off that usually doesnt create space on the inital fake and then he "steps-through" right into defenders body
it should be a more natural reaction then the way he does it
I actually think he is too patient in the post trying all the step-through and pump fakes and he should just look to go to his right hand hook immediately more instead of always going left
no one really respects his shot so he can get it off a lot easier
i hope he spends some time on tweeking that ugly ass hook shot of his and keeping the ball up high. at this point we have no choice but to keep him so i'm not really surprised.
WHAT IF... this ended up being a Sign and Trade situation for another Center instead???
I'd be pretty surprised if it was. The unguaranteed final year is basically a staple in how they have structured contracts outside of the Big 3. You'd think they learned their lesson with the RJ deal too.
Can we have Duncan sit the season out and tank? Tim can get a nice year-long break before coming back the season after next when we can draft a lottery guy to play with him.
We were gifted the Finals last season via trash Lakers and no Westbrook. I don't think we can be that lucky again. every team that was in Splitter's ear, ratcheting up his price. I hope they all get Portland Trailblazer disease.
For sure, the difference is with RJ vs Tiago we have seen success with Tiago before signing him to a large contract.
Whats funny to me is the only time the Spurs seem to get steals on contracts is with their best players. When it comes to outside the big 3, they have to throw down some big (and sometimes questionable) money for their FA's like RJ and Splitter.
TP signed a 4 year/41M* deal(*guaranteed money). Tiago, assuming it's fully guaranteed, just got 5M less than a prime TP
So do you consider Green to be one of the team's top players? His deal looks like a huge steal considering what Re just got.For sure, the difference is with RJ vs Tiago we have seen success with Tiago before signing him to a large contract.
Whats funny to me is the only time the Spurs seem to get steals on contracts is with their best players. When it comes to outside the big 3, they have to throw down some big (and sometimes questionable) money for their FA's like RJ and Splitter.
TP signed a 4 year/41M* deal
TP's agent was dumb, tbh. He negotiated that contract when Parker's value was at the lowest of his career.TP signed a 4 year/41M* deal
Great move by the Spurs but, damn, that was dumb.
I mean big 3.
I know. I'm just talking about when you said they only get steals on their best players. Right now, they have three great non-rookie contracts in Parker, Duncan and Green. Hopefully Ginobili makes it four.
I'd take more regular season losses.
Personally I think he's overpaid at 4 yrs/$36M. I'm glad we didn't sign him.
Sure, but TP said he was not greedy. His value was low and he said he just wanted security, but there is a pattern with Tim/TP that they give pretty steep discounts. Tiago is not them, so this is his first big pay day and it's to be expected he goes HAM, but the fact is Tiago just got paid slightly less than a top 10 NBA player on our team and will likely be the third highest paid player on the Spurs despite only having to play 25MPG.
I agree overall, but by best players I meant big 3. But yes, Green is on a solid contract too.
Freetiago do you thin when Splitter has the ball in the post and has an advantage with a smaller player on him, he rushes a bit so he can do has move before he gets doubled?
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