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  1. #126
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    tl;dr

    Long story short . . . you are an en led, unappreciative weasel. Spurs should have won game 6. There were multiple opportunities Duncan, Manu, TP, Kawai . . . Pop. It didn't work out. Stop whining about it.

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    Quit crying. Somebody has to be negative when we don't win the championship. "Second place is pretty good" at udes are for "participation trophy liberals."

    You play to win the game! o?!

    We didn't win the championship so hollering for turnover after a Finals appearance isn't necessarily an evil. Not wanting to pay your former all-star to cost you wins and play 65% of the season isn't necessarily an evil. A good fan doesn't have to be sunshine and happiness all the time.

    We lost! There should be discussion about which is the cream and which needs to be culled. There SHOULD be discussion of change and disappointment at the thought of giving up on trying to continue to succeed.

    that quitter's "it's our time to suck and watch the sun set" at ude. We could keep getting better if we make the right choices.

    Not expecting or appreciating appropriate negativity doesn't make any sense. It aint always gonna be rainbows and lollipops. Sometimes, a legend isn't gonna know when to call it quits and it's gonna be on somebody to say something, preferably sooner than later.

    you guys being resigned to failure just because the Big 3 is getting old. Don't be ing scared to make changes. It's called growth.

    the "farewell tour of resignation to the end." Duncan is still relatively spry so keep trying to ing win.

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    I got to do, man. I don't have all night to argue with an idiot. You don't deserve my best shot.

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    Not sure if serious.

    If Manu hadn't shat all over the court in Games 2 and 4, we wouldn't have needed his heroics in Game 5.

    You do realize that you justified the highest paid player on the roster by essentially arguing that he had one good game in a seven-game series, right?
    I never said that, I just said it was worth an honorable mention. Surely winning 25% of the games needed to win the NBA Finals series is worth an honorable mention.

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    You don't deserve to be fans of this team. This team that exceeded any and all expectations and were an angel's ass hair away from another LOB. You on the players who have given you their blood, sweat and tears and repay them by wanting to replace them with Marcin Gortat and Kyle Korver or whatever FA is on the market. You all suck and I am ashamed to be associated with you. I love the Spurs, but I hate you all. I hope you all die from eating bad chicken at Taco Cabana. A slow, miserable death sweating on the toilet with bile shooting out of your assholes much like the wet that spews from your keyboard. You all deserve to be kicked in your shriveled testicles by Gregory Popovich untill you start hemorrhaging blood out of you ears and nostrils, you fat, flauta eating s. I want to set fire to your Ginobili jerseys while you're wearing them. Seriously, you suck.

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    Quit crying. Somebody has to be negative when we don't win the championship. "Second place is pretty good" at udes are for "participation trophy liberals."

    You play to win the game! o?!

    We didn't win the championship so hollering for turnover after a Finals appearance isn't necessarily an evil. Not wanting to pay your former all-star to cost you wins and play 65% of the season isn't necessarily an evil. A good fan doesn't have to be sunshine and happiness all the time.

    We lost! There should be discussion about which is the cream and which needs to be culled. There SHOULD be discussion of change and disappointment at the thought of giving up on trying to continue to succeed.

    that quitter's "it's our time to suck and watch the sun set" at ude. We could keep getting better if we make the right choices.

    Not expecting or appreciating appropriate negativity doesn't make any sense. It aint always gonna be rainbows and lollipops. Sometimes, a legend isn't gonna know when to call it quits and it's gonna be on somebody to say something, preferably sooner than later.

    you guys being resigned to failure just because the Big 3 is getting old. Don't be ing scared to make changes. It's called growth.

    the "farewell tour of resignation to the end." Duncan is still relatively spry so keep trying to ing win.

    +1 Can I Get A Amen!

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    Lee, you're better than that . . . oh, maybe not.

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    Look, I agree with all who say that Manu & Splitter played terrible in the finals. But Ohm has a point. Every year, every goddamn year, Spurs fans wish the front office will make a splash during this free agent period. And it never happens. And they continue to win. And they go to the Western Conference finals. And they go to the finals. And they almost win - should have won - with the likes of Danny Green, Cojo, and Gary Neal. Gary goddamn Neal! I have yet to hear of one guard who is good enough to kiss Ginobli's 3 rings mentioned in free agency that the Spurs were linked to. I don't want this team to rely on Manu and his reckless play this next season. But the way this team is built, and with the salary cap situation, Splitter & MANU's contract were about what they should have been. Check that, they were actually a bargain. Korver? Ellis? Are you ing kidding me? I'm not even sure about AK47 at this point in his career. Who is better that Splitter & Manu that the Spurs should've signed? I mean, Dwight Howard is clearly better than Splitter but he's obviously unobtainable and more of a puss than Splitter. But he does dunk. Who gives a . I'm like everybody else, still pissed that the Spurs - particularly Ginobili & Pop - blew that game 6 and therefore the finals but damn, people need to wake up and realize this isn't some EA game you can just pick & choose who you want the Spurs to sign and that they would even be a good fit.

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    what about the guy that single handedly won game 5
    Still, you gotta admit that he sucked during the Finals and he did not make the situation now - offseason, free-agency - better with his new contract. I was hoping before today's news that he would sacrifice a little bit more for the team to be able to make a big free agency move. Anyway, after all this, I have big expectations on Manu come season 2013-2014: not big numbers, but just to be consistent and be healthy.

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    im calling it now. this is gonna be a thread that will be bumped months or even years from now

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    Look, I agree with all who say that Manu & Splitter played terrible in the finals. But Ohm has a point. Every year, every goddamn year, Spurs fans wish the front office will make a splash during this free agent period. And it never happens. And they continue to win. And they go to the Western Conference finals. And they go to the finals. And they almost win - should have won - with the likes of Danny Green, Cojo, and Gary Neal. Gary goddamn Neal! I have yet to hear of one guard who is good enough to kiss Ginobli's 3 rings mentioned in free agency that the Spurs were linked to. I don't want this team to rely on Manu and his reckless play this next season. But the way this team is built, and with the salary cap situation, Splitter & MANU's contract were about what they should have been. Check that, they were actually a bargain. Korver? Ellis? Are you ing kidding me? I'm not even sure about AK47 at this point in his career. Who is better that Splitter & Manu that the Spurs should've signed? I mean, Dwight Howard is clearly better than Splitter but he's obviously unobtainable and more of a puss than Splitter. But he does dunk. Who gives a . I'm like everybody else, still pissed that the Spurs - particularly Ginobili & Pop - blew that game 6 and therefore the finals but damn, people need to wake up and realize this isn't some EA game you can just pick & choose who you want the Spurs to sign and that they would even be a good fit.
    Correction: Not every year we've had a great/almost-successful season.

    It was only last year and this year that the Spurs achieved such seasons. Of course, all players played a part in this, including Manu and Tiago but in my perspective, the main factors that really helped the team reach what they have reached these past 2 seasons are Tim Duncan's renaissance play, and Kawhi and Green's immense development. Next season, our team attaining what they were so close to take last season - championship - still depends on the latter. For the former, however, it is very difficult for me to expect another excellent season from Timmeh after all that he has given us, fans and the Spurs organization. Moreover, he is in the finals years of his career and we all want him to taste that one last championship even though he already has 4. But 4 is not enough for a super-class person that Tim is.

    That perhaps is the reason for all the bitterness towards Manu and Tiago and these somehow BIG contract of theirs.

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    Yet another vent thread...

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    Spurs fans are mental midgets just like their team..

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    omhwrecker is in full denial mode while I'm at full meltdown mode.


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    Correction: Not every year we've had a great/almost-successful season.

    It was only last year and this year that the Spurs achieved such seasons. Of course, all players played a part in this, including Manu and Tiago but in my perspective, the main factors that really helped the team reach what they have reached these past 2 seasons are Tim Duncan's renaissance play, and Kawhi and Green's immense development. Next season, our team attaining what they were so close to take last season - championship - still depends on the latter. For the former, however, it is very difficult for me to expect another excellent season from Timmeh after all that he has given us, fans and the Spurs organization. Moreover, he is in the finals years of his career and we all want him to taste that one last championship even though he already has 4. But 4 is not enough for a super-class person that Tim is.

    That perhaps is the reason for all the bitterness towards Manu and Tiago and these somehow BIG contract of theirs.
    Let me correct your corrections. The Spurs have been compe ive every year since they last hoisted the Trophy. This is with the Roger Masons & the Ime Udokas on the roster. Tim Duncan may not win another championship - in fact it's likely that the '13 Finals was the realistic last chance. The bitterness you refer to is not going away any time soon. Once again, let me repeat, I too am pissed off at Manu about his turnovers and over bad play in game 6 and the end of game 7. Now just take a step back and look at who is available for the Spurs to sign and reflect on what they normally do during the off season. They don't sign big names very often if ever and they still should've won the whole thing. By the way, whatever you think of Manu & Tiago, look at all the overpaid above average players in the league. Look at all the GMs that make poor decisions and the rosters that don't quite work together for the system the team runs. Those 2 contracts the Spurs decided to give make total sense to me. By the way, I wasn't much of a fan of Ime or Rogers. I mentioned them as examples of the kind of players the Spurs usually sign.

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    The homers who are demanding this pussy conservative, non changing approach don't seem to be grasping the concept that with age, players get worse. Standing pat would be a good idea if your team was improving naturally (like OKC), but not when it's declining (like us, like Boston was, like Dallas).

    Being a homer in this case is worse than being a "hater", as for some reason people not being blind homers are being called now. You guys are providing no logical alternatives. You're just saying to sit down and watch the team you know won't be as good and will slowly get worse over the next couple of years.

    Then what? Duncan's gone. Now where are we? Great, we got to see a couple of parade years by Ginobili. . .while Duncan doesn't get back to the Finals for another shot at #5. And even if we do, we have Ginobili ting the bed again to look forward to. He will be ting the bed too since the Spurs refused to bring in someone to help handle some of his responsibilities. Therefore he will be in the same situations making the same bad decisions. If he's even healthy enough to be there.

    Constructive criticism is always better than conservative ignorance imo.

    As much as I hate to side with the GNSF's, they got a point. The fact is that Ginobili's $7 million contract eats up significant cap space. Spurs finally had a chance to add another key piece, but instead they'll be looking at adding another role player.

    We all watched the same playoffs. Spurs had been struggling to score during crunch time when the game is close. When Parker is shut down, the offense dies. Trotting out the same Parker/Ginobili/Green/Leonard/Duncan lineup that's another year older guarantees the same failure. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

    I can't believe Spurs fans and the management are still burying their heads in the sand and still think this core can win a championship. Especially those that actually think Ginobili's contract is a good idea. He had a miserable year, every year showed significant decline, injury prone, will be 36 years old, and made terrible decisions in the finals. These are facts. Even the most die hard Ginobili fan knows he played a terrible finals series and cost the Spurs game 6, their best chance of stealing the championship.

    The Spurs had an opportunity to tell Ginobili that they would like to keep him but will move on to a different direction. Ginobili could either take less money or move on. But the Spurs didn't and it perplexes me. It wouldn't have even been too much of a risk. Ginobili degraded so much that he was only scoring 11 points and letting him facilitate the offense was like playing russian roulette. Replacing him with a $8-10 million free agent would have been a step forward. How do Spurs fans who want to see the team improve suck?
    The bolded bit is exactly how I was describing Ginobili's play during the Finals. Literally using the game russian roulette as an example too. So I know exactly how you feel about the guy's decline in ballhandling. Manu was very good two years ago, but jesus christ the guy has NOT aged well. Timmy aged gracefully. . .Manu's aging has been ugly as .

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    Let me correct your corrections. The Spurs have been compe ive every year since they last hoisted the Trophy. This is with the Roger Masons & the Ime Udokas on the roster. Tim Duncan may not win another championship - in fact it's likely that the '13 Finals was the realistic last chance. The bitterness you refer to is not going away any time soon. Once again, let me repeat, I too am pissed off at Manu about his turnovers and over bad play in game 6 and the end of game 7. Now just take a step back and look at who is available for the Spurs to sign and reflect on what they normally do during the off season. They don't sign big names very often if ever and they still should've won the whole thing. By the way, whatever you think of Manu & Tiago, look at all the overpaid above average players in the league. Look at all the GMs that make poor decisions and the rosters that don't quite work together for the system the team runs. Those 2 contracts the Spurs decided to give make total sense to me. By the way, I wasn't much of a fan of Ime or Rogers. I mentioned them as examples of the kind of players the Spurs usually sign.
    Compe ive, yes. Contenders, no.

    It is hard to tell whether a free agent would fit in the Spurs system or not. Many, including GM Buford, were wrong on RJ and other lured FA. Of course, there are others who pan out. Hence, if your team has the money to sign a perceived effective player, then why not give it a try? But as you may know, our team has much less money to spend in that endeavor. I have no problem with the 2 aforementioned players coming back to the team. Actually, I'm excited. But their "big" contracts, in some ways, put down our team's chances to sign a good player and also, our chance to probably become a better team.

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    The homers who are demanding this pussy conservative, non changing approach don't seem to be grasping the concept that with age, players get worse. Standing pat would be a good idea if your team was improving naturally (like OKC), but not when it's declining (like us, like Boston was, like Dallas).

    Being a homer in this case is worse than being a "hater", as for some reason people not being blind homers are being called now. You guys are providing no logical alternatives. You're just saying to sit down and watch the team you know won't be as good and will slowly get worse over the next couple of years.

    Then what? Duncan's gone. Now where are we? Great, we got to see a couple of parade years by Ginobili. . .while Duncan doesn't get back to the Finals for another shot at #5. And even if we do, we have Ginobili ting the bed again to look forward to. He will be ting the bed too since the Spurs refused to bring in someone to help handle some of his responsibilities. Therefore he will be in the same situations making the same bad decisions. If he's even healthy enough to be there.

    Constructive criticism is always better than conservative ignorance imo.



    The bolded bit is exactly how I was describing Ginobili's play during the Finals. Literally using the game russian roulette as an example too. So I know exactly how you feel about the guy's decline in ballhandling. Manu was very good two years ago, but jesus christ the guy has NOT aged well. Timmy aged gracefully. . .Manu's aging has been ugly as .

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    Yes we want to replace a guy with 8 turnovers in game 6 and cost us a championship. Our bad.
    Aren't these morons funny? LOL! There is only one irreplaceable player on the Spurs, that is TD.

    Manu played international ball for a decade, taking the Spurs money, and giving up his body overseas for nothing. For the last 3 years, he's been always injured, old, scrub, who occasionally has a good game, and now some Spurs fans are having a heart attack that many Spurs don't won't him back.

    This is basketball, not charity. If you can't play, you, you should be cut/not resigned.

    Manu just cost the Spurs a le, and many before that.

    If Pop had any guts at all, he wouldn't have resigned the scrub.

    But Pop doesn't.

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    Aren't these morons funny? LOL! There is only one irreplaceable player on the Spurs, that is TD.

    Manu played international ball for a decade, taking the Spurs money, and giving up his body overseas for nothing. For the last 3 years, he's been always injured, old, scrub, who occasionally has a good game, and now some Spurs fans are having a heart attack that many Spurs don't won't him back.

    This is basketball, not charity. If you can't play, you, you should be cut/not resigned.

    Manu just cost the Spurs a le, and many before that.

    If Pop had any guts at all, he wouldn't have resigned the scrub.

    But Pop doesn't.
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    yeah, spurs fans are pretty ing pathetic right now. You guys all know we have 4 rings right?

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