Spurs in Serious Talks with Belinelli (Edit: signed to 2 year/$6M)

[apalisoc_9]

Both Mills and Neal are small-shooting guards, but at least Mills is quick and can pressure the ball. He deserves a chance. Otherwise, what does the team keep bringing him back for?

They didn't exactly bring him back. He just opted in.

I wouldnt be surprised if he's used as part of a package for a S&T deal.

[TD 21]

Mills is still on the roster, and he's a scorer. Joseph and De Colo can get better offensively.

Pop made it abundantly clear last season that he views Mills as an SG on offense and as a 12th man in general (at least on a team of this caliber). And Joseph and De Colo are flat out not scorers and never will be.

They desperately needed scoring punch off the bench to pair with Ginobili and as insurance for him, which is why I was always in favor of retaining Neal or at least replacing him with someone of similar ilk, which they obviously just did.

At those who hate Neal, but love the Belinelli signing . . . wait until you find out that he's basically a lighter version of him.

[CGD]

RivistaUfficialeNBA ‏@RivistaNBA 57s
Marco Belinelli ha rifiutato un contratto da 12 milioni di dollari in due anni da parte dei Cleveland Cavaliers, secondo fonti attendibili.

So the Cav's offer wasnt that much more lucrative than the Spurs offer.

[spurraider21]

They didn't exactly bring him back. He just opted in.

I wouldnt be surprised if he's used as part of a package for a S&T deal.

yeah. mills is actually great value at 1.2 million (or whatever he opted in for). its just that we don't have the need. any team with the cap room should welcome a deal for him. golden state should give him a look tbh if jack is leaving

[ducks]

12 million is much more then 6 million

[Darkwaters]

So the Cav's offer wasnt that much more lucrative than the Spurs offer.

It was double.

[Kineto]

And with a S&T like:
Spurs get Kirilenko for De Colo + cash
Minny get a TE for Kirilenko
Third Team (like Utah) get De Colo + cash for nothing

Spurs will be able to offer Kirilenko a starting salary of $7.6M.

Does the same trade possible with mills ?

If De Colo prefer to come back in europe, can't we negociate a buyout with him, and offer the same amount without involving a third team ?

[Chinook]

Pop made it abundantly clear last season that he views Mills as an SG on offense and as a 12th man in general (at least on a team of this caliber). And Joseph and De Colo are flat out not scorers and never will be.

They desperately need scoring punch off the bench to pair with Ginobili and as insurance for him, which is why I was always in favor of retaining Neal or at least, replacing him with someone of similar ilk, which they obviously just did.

I'm sure Pop wouldn't keep encouraging Mills to come back if he didn't feel like he could be better than he is. Mills was always a better compliment to Ginobili than Neal. Joseph in the very least has shown flashes of being a good scorer. He's actually a pretty good shooter, and he's an excellent finisher. He just needs the right mentality. The same thing can be said for De Colo as well. It's Pop's job to develop that.

There's no point in having young players on the team if they're just going to spend their rookie contracts on the bench. I thought Pop had learned that after these last couple of years, but I don't know anymore.

[ace3g]

Here is his twitter info

@marcobelinelli

[CGD]

It was double.

Wow really? I read that sentence to say that he turn down a 12 million dollars contract over two years, NOT that each year was 12M.

Also, it doesnt make sense that it is a 24m/yrs deal logically. , thats slightly less than what Iggy or Al Jefferson are rumored to get.

[temujin]

Yay we got Rocky on our team. I wish him the best of luck. Hopefully he can translate to Manu in Italian to stop turning the ball over. Belinelli is going to get all the open looks in the world with Pop''s system. Hopefully Kahwi can give him some tips on defense. I liked what I saw from this kid against the cHeat. He is not afraid to shoot the ball.

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I am sure you will like many of Beli's "ignorant" shots.....

[jermaine]

It was double.

I know right. I rather have 2 women than 1 woman at 1 time. 2 pay checks is better than 1. Well they get my point.

[ducks]

Here is his twitter info

@marcobelinelli

someone twit him ask him if spurs talked about getting another player for the mle

[spurraider21]

whats lame is... if the MLE ends up being our "ace in the hole" then the shedding of the RJ/Jax contract did absolutely nothing for us except save Holt some coin.

we could have made these same exact moves if we used bird rights and MLE only...

[spursince#99]

Wow really? I read that sentence to say that he turn down a 12 million dollars contract over two years, NOT that each year was 12M.

Dude WTF?

[temujin]

Wow really? I read that sentence to say that he turn down a 12 million dollars contract over two years, NOT that each year was 12M.

12 M for 2 years from Cleveland.

No thanks yo, I play for Pop.
And with my IDOL Emanuel Ginobili.

[hommeaetage]

Wow really? I read that sentence to say that he turn down a 12 million dollars contract over two years, NOT that each year was 12M.

That's exactly what it is, he got 6M for 2 years by the Spurs (6M less than Cavs offer)

[CGD]

Dude WTF?

I dont get your comment. It was indeed a two year deal for 12M total. I was right.

[Bruno]

Does the same trade possible with mills ?

If De Colo prefer to come back in europe, can't we negociate a buyout with him, and offer the same amount without involving a third team ?

You can do the same trade with Mills but Kirilenko would only get $7.3M or less.

If the De Colo buyout is $0, then you can offer Kirilenko $7.6M in a simple two team S&T (Kirilenko for a TE). If the buyout is $X, you can offer Kirilenko $7.6M-$X or $7.6M-$X/3 if you use the stretch exception. For example, if Spurs negotiate a $600K buyout, they would be able to offer Kirilenko $7M or $7.4M if they use the stretch provision on the buyout.

[spurraider21]

And with a S&T like:
Spurs get Kirilenko for De Colo + cash
Minny get a TE for Kirilenko
Third Team (like Utah) get De Colo + cash for nothing

Spurs will be able to offer Kirilenko a starting salary of $7.6M.

is this also dependent on a bonner amnesty and the Bello contract being room exception?

[spursince#99]

I dont get your comment. It was indeed a two year deal for 12M total. I was right.

2 year $12M compared to 2 year $6M. Come on I know you can add bro that's doubled.

[spursince#99]

is this also dependent on a bonner amnesty and the Bello contract being room exception?

No

[pad300]

RivistaUfficialeNBA ‏@RivistaNBA 57s
Marco Belinelli ha rifiutato un contratto da 12 milioni di dollari in due anni da parte dei Cleveland Cavaliers, secondo fonti attendibili.

I'd be really impressed if he turned down twice the salary to play for SAS, but I don't believe it. Belinelli wasn't going to get offered more than the MLE, even by Cleveland...

[Bruno]

It's really close to the room exception that is exactly $5.42M over 2 years.

[Darkwaters]

Wow really? I read that sentence to say that he turn down a 12 million dollars contract over two years, NOT that each year was 12M.

Also, it doesnt make sense that it is a 24m/yrs deal logically. , thats slightly less than what Iggy or Al Jefferson are rumored to get.

The Spurs aren't paying him 6M a year. They're paying him 6M over 2 years. The Cavs offered him 12M for 2 years, hence double.