Spurs in Serious Talks with Belinelli (Edit: signed to 2 year/$6M)

[dbestpro]

I really don't think they are going to trade Bonner right now. I think they will keep him around and use him as leverage for a midseason trade when teams are most desperate to shed salary.

[SpursSerb]

When can always do a trade.We have a lot of expiring contracts.

[Chinook]

Who said he ever encouraged him? Don't get me wrong, I think they like him, because he's a great teammate and an excellent 12th man, but they clearly don't see him as more than that. Why else would De Colo and Joseph have been given cracks at being the backup PG, but he wasn't? This despite the fact that everyone had him as Neal's primary compe ion beforehand.

Joseph hasn't shown flashes of anything offensively, with the exception of intuitive cutting . . . and I'm not sure why so many are pretending otherwise. I've never seen a rotation player with less responsibility in the playoffs.

There is a point and that point is, for depth purposes. Besides, he could still be the long term answer at backup PG; I just think it's highly unlikely his time is now, which doesn't jive with the rest of this team.

They re-signed Mills last season, which is pretty much as much encouragement as you can give someone. They kept him as the 12th man to be offense and energy off the bench. That's pretty much what Neal was doing, except he lacked energy. Mills can't do everything Neal can, but he do enough of the same things to get a consistent role.

Joseph has shown flashes of being a good offensive player. His regular-season run when Parker was injured was full of them. Literally, the only thing holding him back from being a staple in the rotation is himself.

Depth for depth's sake is a good thing when you have vets on the bench like Kerr and Steve Smith. But it doesn't help to have young players who sit on the bench for years and get leap-frogged by free agents when a spot opens up. The team has reached their former glory because Pop went with younger players like Green and Leonard instead of retreads like Bogans and MyDyess. I feel it's a mistake to break away from that mentality.

[Mel_13]

Just to add a little positive note to all the doom and gloom,

Dunleavy was signed by Chi for the room exception (the mini MLE : http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks...213925711.html ), and it was reported as 2yrs/$6M (Dunleavy Agrees To Two-Year, $6M Deal With Bulls : http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228537/Dunleavy-Agrees-To-Two-Year-$6M-Deal-With-Bulls).

I suspect it is being planned as the room exception. It may become the MLE if things don't pan out with whatever other free agents they are pursuing...

Chicago is way over the cap. Dunleavy was signed with the mini-MLE.

[SpursRock20]

I was responding to your post. The 200K bit is irrelevant to that.

The 200k is integral to the rest of free agency. In replacing Neal, I'm hoping the Spurs did not have a slip up over chump change. If Belinelli isn't willing to go any lower (I doubt it), they should have looked elsewhere. This could all be conjecture anyway.

[spursince#99]

We don't really know the scenarios nor do we know the intent of the organization. The Red Rocket is here to stay you guys.

[Kidd K]

So instead of Gary Neal, we now have the white Gary Neal.

What a great offseason.

[spurtech09]

i like belinelli.. i always have since day 1.. i'm happy he signed with us..

the best way i can put it is.. the splitter/manu contract, while bypassing a high profile FA move really hurt.. but signing bellinelli helped ease the pain alot

agree

[Obstructed_View]

Yay we got Rocky on our team. I wish him the best of luck. Hopefully he can translate to Manu in Italian to stop turning the ball over. Belinelli is going to get all the open looks in the world with Pop''s system. Hopefully Kahwi can give him some tips on defense. I liked what I saw from this kid against the cHeat. He is not afraid to shoot the ball.

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[objective]

Chicago is way over the cap. Dunleavy was signed with the mini-MLE.

Exactly.

And if the Spurs were going to waste the MLE, I think I would take Dunleavy at 2/6 over Belinelli at 2/5.6.

[benefactor]

If the Spurs don't intent to create cap space, offering him $5.6M over two years isn't much of a different than $5.42M -- yet could help their offer stand out.

We assume that the Spurs have been trying to create that cap space but we don't know if that's actually the plan.

RC himself spoke of wanting flexibility when he said the Spurs were leaving Jean-Charles overseas. One would think he would have the same mindset here.

[temujin]

So hypothetically, if we were to offer him the 5.6 to entice him because we knew Neal would bail, then let him weigh his options; would it be right to withdraw that offer and say "no, we're giving you the 5.4 because we'd like to add another piece to the team?" Or better yet, do you think that's how the Spurs run their organization?

That's not the way I think things went.
Pop likes the guy (or he would even be considered).
He might have asked Messina already.
he asks Manu how' he personally.
manu says he is a great kid with the right at ude.
Agent is contacted, talks to Beli and he is more than happy.
Agent says you will make half of what you would make in Cleveland.
Beli goes no way I play in Clevaland if Pop wants me. Work out the details.

[spursince#99]

I really don't think they are going to trade Bonner right now. I think they will keep him around and use him as leverage for a midseason trade when teams are most desperate to shed salary.

The board isn't willing to wait that long.

[Mel_13]

The team has reached their former glory because Pop went with younger players like Green and Leonard instead of retreads like Bogans and MyDyess. I feel it's a mistake to break away from that mentality.

I don't see Belinelli as analogous to Bogans and Dice. Especially when compared with Mills who is only 2 years younger.

[HI-FI]

i'm excited as he's here. great roleplayer, can pick up some of the slack that Manu can't anymore. I almost feel bad we got him for so cheap (comparatively), but he must really want to play with us and not go to Cleveland.

[spursince#99]

That's not the way I think things went.
Pop likes the guy (or he would even be considered).
he asks Manu how' he personally.
manu says he is a great kid with the right at ude.
Agent is contacted, tals to Beli and he more than happy.
Agent says you will make half of you would in Cleveland.
Beli goes no way I ply in Clevaland if Pop wants me. Work out the details.

No sir. Learn how to spell and correctly form a sentence too, btw.

[TE]

I'm not opposed to the trade but the Spurs have glaring holes that have gone, up to this point, unfilled.

[Mel_13]

The 200k is integral to the rest of free agency. In replacing Neal, I'm hoping the Spurs did not have a slip up over chump change. If Belinelli isn't willing to go any lower (I doubt it), they should have looked elsewhere. This could all be conjecture anyway.

Come on. If the Spurs have a plan to create cap space, they're not going to blow it over 200K in an offer to Marco Belinelli.

[temujin]

No sir. Learn how to spell and correctly form a sentence too, btw.

You really want to go into a argument about my spelling?
In this forum?

[spursince#99]

The 200k is integral to the rest of free agency. In replacing Neal, I'm hoping the Spurs did not have a slip up over chump change. If Belinelli isn't willing to go any lower (I doubt it), they should have looked elsewhere. This could all be conjecture anyway.

A slip up over chump change?

[spursince#99]

You really want to go into a argument about my spelling?
In this forum?

*an argument.

[SpursRock20]

Come on. If the Spurs have a plan to create cap space, they're not going to blow it over 200K in an offer to Marco Belinelli.

True. I'm probably just overreacting. But there is a good chance we are bringing Bonner back, so anything is possible

[Leetonidas]

A slip up over chump change?

Yeah, because that 200K difference in the room exception and MLE is huge in terms of getting someone like Kirilenko

[spursince#99]

Yeah, because that 200K difference in the room exception and MLE is huge in terms of getting someone like Kirilenko

[Budkin]

Does someone have a decent link that explains NBA salaries and team financials? I've never taken the time to understand things like Veteran minimum, LLE, MLE, and room exceptions. Time for me to learn.