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so his hand gun was in plain view? isnt it suppose to be concealed? how would Martin see it unless he was threatened with it or it wasnt concealed?
Already been discussed in court. After being smashed in the face by Martin, Zimmerman fell to ground where his head being in the horizontal position allowed the blood to flow back into his throat and presumably he swallowed it. When he stood up, that's when the blood would flow out of his nose.
so his hand gun was in plain view? isnt it suppose to be concealed? how would Martin see it unless he was threatened with it or it wasnt concealed?
TM could have seen it when GZ's coat moved out of the way during the struggle. TM also could have felt it with his leg while he was straddling GZ.
The gun was in an "inside the waistband" holster in his pants. The pistol butt would normally be concealed by his shirt/jacket. It is entirely plausible that his shirt/jacket had risen up during the struggle exposing the pistol.
come on guy, you telling me you remember everything taught in class? I'm fortunate to remember 20% of the crap that was taught.
dat bez da spirit
Wow...
After all the testemony coming out, people still think Zimmerman is guilty?
Wow...
You mean the absence of forensic evidence corroborating Zimmerman's account (no Martin DNA or fingerprints on gun he allegedly grabbed, ME saying Zimmerman's injuries were "very insignificant" despite the claim that the ahem victim's head was bashed "25 times" ...during which no Zimmerman DNA got under Martin's fingernails)? Or the inconsistencies and absurdities in his testimony (he was following Martin, no,no, he was going back to his car. He knew nothing about Stand Your Ground but his criminal justice teacher said Zimmerman not only studied the law, he got an A in the course)?
Yeah... wow.
Sean Hannity has a sad.
I aints no DeeAnAAAs expert, but if Travonz be putting his han inz a fist, thus Travons knuckles be hittin GZ not child Travons fingernails.
Dat be xplainin why no DNAz on Zimmermans fingernails?
Well i be guessen he grab zimmamin wit BOFE fist closed still, and bang his head 25 times
A person with a loaded gun started a confrontation with an unarmed person. With just those details you know how that situation ends.
Those are the actions of an irresponsible person who did not need to have a gun in the first place. But, he did, and someone died because of it. He needs to go away for awhile.
And if you have a gun how do you even let it get to the point where the other person is on top of you? I'm pretty sure if the other person knew you had a gun they wouldn't do a damn thing.
It's as simple as letting them know what's up and warning them to keep their distance.
He's probably not going anywhere except home after the trial because it's looking worse and worse everyday for the prosecution.
This.
While Trayvon could have handled it better (keep in mind he was only seventeen), I think Zimmerman could've and should've ended everything when he was asked by TM what he wanted. Should have told TM what he was doing because he had no legitimate reason not to disclose that information to him. The question is why didn't he?
Anthony Gorgone, a Florida Department of Law Enforcement crime lab analyst, testified that Martin's DNA was not found on the gun grip.
"You were able to exclude Trayvon Martin having DNA on the pistol grip, is that correct?" asked prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda.
"Yes," said Gorgone.
This appeared to contradict testimony Tuesday by a witness who said Zimmerman told him that Martin had grabbed the gun. However, in cross examination Gorgone admitted that it's possible Martin did touch the gun.
Sure but then you consider that his head wounds were not consistent with his testimony nor was any of his DNA on Martin's hands AND you consider how he misrepresentedx himself in court already during the bond process and you see a deliberate pattern.
I can understand why people are saying that there is reasonable doubt as to malicious intent for a murder conviction but if Florida allows jurors to convict on a lesser charge I would put my money on manslaughter and a good time for Zimmerman in a Florida correctional ins ute.
FWIW, here are the FL manslaughter statutes:
(1) The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(2) A person who causes the death of any elderly person or disabled adult by culpable negligence under s. 825.102(3) commits aggravated manslaughter of an elderly person or disabled adult, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(3) A person who causes the death of any person under the age of 18 by culpable negligence under s. 827.03(2)(b) commits aggravated manslaughter of a child, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(4) A person who causes the death, through culpable negligence, of an officer as defined in s. 943.10(14), a firefighter as defined in s. 112.191, an emergency medical technician as defined in s. 401.23, or a paramedic as defined in s. 401.23, while the officer, firefighter, emergency medical technician, or paramedic is performing duties that are within the course of his or her employment, commits aggravated manslaughter of an officer, a firefighter, an emergency medical technician, or a paramedic, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
GZ's all-azimuths lying certainly confuses the case.
Martin's mother already took the stand and left? 8:42am and I missed it. I guess she talked about the voice.
By the way, for all of the voice analysis, what ever happened to the whole "coon" thing? Did they ask any of the experts? That got dropped quickly.
Never mind she's still on.
This voice stuff from everyone on both sides seems to be: 1.) I don't know 2.) Wait now I know!
"he was one of the few guys that never made fun of me, about the way I dressed, about the way I talked, about my hair, about my complexion… about my weight.”
- Rachel Jeantel
hopefully his mother's testimony tugs at the heartstrings of the mothers in the jury.
this is a beautiful black family, btw. can't wait to read the comments on how ignorant they sound.
creepdawg, i read that quote too and it was sickening how people, even blacks, joked about her appearance and speech. bunch of ignorant people following this case for their own racist reasons.
So did is the mom already done?
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