NBA: Better player all-time, Jason Kidd or Dwyane Wade?

[scroteface]

Better player all time, Chauncey Billups or Chris Paul?

Chauncey Billups never lead his team to a le, he played a supporting role along with the rest of the starting 5.

[JamStone]

Sure he did. He was the best player on Detroit in the Finals and won the FMVP. He was also the PG who controlled the tempo of the offense and also the closer for the team.

You can say that was a much more balanced team than other championship teams, but there was still a leader. As great as Ben Wallace was on defense, Billups was clearly the leader of the team. There isn't another player you would say on the Pistons who led that team. Every team has a leader. For that Pistons team, it was Billups. The fact he wasn't considered a superstar doesn't change that fact.

[scroteface]

chauncey billups did not "lead" a team to the le anymore than derek fisher lead the lakers to a le

[JamStone]

If you want to believe that, I'm sure I can't change your mind.

I simply disagree.

[hater]

Wade showed he could lead his team to a championship as the best player. Kidd has never done that. That's the difference.

Kidd had Jefferson and I don't even remember who as coach.

Wade had Shaq and Pat Riley.

[JamStone]

I believe it was Byron Scott both Finals appearances.

And that's true about Wade as well. In all three of his championships, he played with a top 10 player all time. Shaq may have been past his prime and Wade the best player on that le team, but Wade doesn't get past the Pistons without Shaq.

[namlook]

Better player all time, Chauncey Billups or Chris Paul?

Start a thread if you seriously want to discuss that. This is a Kidd/Wade thread and Wade > Kidd in part because he led a team to a championship.