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    very strange team or team is not leaked what the sign and trade would be
    very spur like in that aspect
    NOT SAYING SPURS ARE TEAM

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    Plus I keep remembering he is good friends with TP and it would make the most sense for him to want to come here, but as you said, highly unlikely it happens, just wish it would.

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    The Spurs aren't trading Bonner.

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    A simpler version of that fantasy trade could be:
    Spurs trade Bonner+De Colo for Kirilenko
    Minny trade Kirilenko for a TE
    Utah trade cap space for Bonner and De Colo

    Spurs would send cash to Utah to cover Bonner's buyout.

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    So a deal involving just Spurs and Wolves is not possible?
    it is if they can agree on something

    trades like this ususally involve a player and a second round pick

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    A simpler version of that fantasy trade could be:
    Spurs trade Bonner+De Colo for Kirilenko
    Minny trade Kirilenko for a TE
    Utah trade cap space for Bonner and De Colo

    Spurs would send cash to Utah to cover Bonner's buyout.
    Lets say something like this happens and Bonner is bought out. Aren't there rules in place now to discourage the origin team from taking him back? Because I seriously doubt the Spurs will let Bonner go, don't know why, but they love this guy despite all his faults.

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    AK47 is still a decent player but he wouldn't be a better SF option than Leonard. Playing him at PF? This would've sounded nice before Splitter was signed to the 4yr/36m contract. If AK47 only wants a ring w/o giving a about whatever pay and role he's gonna get, he will choose Miami over the Spurs.

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    I expect AK to go to Dallas or Atl.

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    The Spurs aren't trading Bonner and not getting AK. They'll either get someone from the Summer leagues or a player cut after the preseason. They'll sign the guy, stick him to the end of the bench, send him to Austin for a few games, and play sparingly the second half of the season.

    Manu, Green, Beli, and Diaw will probably play back up SF by committee.

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    The Spurs aren't trading Bonner and not getting AK. They'll either get someone from the Summer leagues or a player cut after the preseason. They'll sign the guy, stick him to the end of the bench, send him to Austin for a few games, and play sparingly the second half of the season.

    Manu, Green, Beli, and Diaw will probably play back up SF by committee.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS!

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    I'm pretty sure Belinelli is going to be our backup SF, tbh. Is it ideal? Eh, maybe not, but it's going to be the way it is.

    AK47 is mostly a pipe dream, tbh, though I do hope it happens. I doubt a player of his caliber wants to be a bench player, though.

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    Excellent point.

    So many want to assume that the Spurs had a plan to create and use cap space. We'll never know it that was ever the case. Even if they did have AK47 as a possible target, that plan could have died on initial contact with AK's agent if he told the Spurs that a 2 year deal wouldn't be considered. The Spurs had to go beyond 2015 with Splitter, as they will with Kawhi, but they very well may have drawn the line right there.
    I remember AK state that he opted out because of the lenght of his contract. asked what number of years he is seeking he answered: at least 3. 2015 will be the year of the re start of the Spurs franchise. it might take a max (or at least borderline max) contract to keep Kawhi. Tiago costs about 10 million for 2015-16. depending on what happens with Tony Spurs might have the cap room for a max FA. if they sign AK for 3 years, this scenario is dead. (call it the Kevin Love scenario)
    no doubt Spurs were interested in AK. no doubt they didn't offer more that 2 years. so, no doubt as well, that they never had a legit chance to get him.

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    Lets say something like this happens and Bonner is bought out. Aren't there rules in place now to discourage the origin team from taking him back? Because I seriously doubt the Spurs will let Bonner go, don't know why, but they love this guy despite all his faults.
    Spurs won't be able to re-sign him but the "love affair" between Pop and Bonner is highly overrated.

    This year, Bonner played 909 minutes in the regular season while Blair played 851 minutes and De Colo 920 minutes. In the playoffs, he played 267 minutes but if you take away the first 5 games where Diaw and/or Splitter were injured, he played 146 minutes in the last 16 games which makes 9.1 mpg.

    I don't think Spurs decision of keeping him for a cost of $3M was that easy to take and it's fully possible that the deadline did indeed get pushed and Spurs are still working on what to do with his partially guaranteed contract.

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    Spurs won't be able to re-sign him but the "love affair" between Pop and Bonner is highly overrated.

    This year, Bonner played 909 minutes in the regular season while Blair played 851 minutes and De Colo 920 minutes. In the playoffs, he played 267 minutes but if you take away the first 5 games where Diaw and/or Splitter were injured, he played 146 minutes in the last 16 games which makes 9.1 mpg.

    I don't think Spurs decision of keeping him for a cost of $3M was that easy to take and it's fully possible that the deadline did indeed get pushed and Spurs are still working on what to do with his partially guaranteed contract.
    And add to the fact that they have now got 5 Frontcourt players already - Duncan, Splitter, Diaw, Baynes, Pendergraph and Bonner is clearly going to be either the 5th or the 6th big in that list if he is included... in that case, the Spurs are definitely going to overpay him if they intend to keep him.

    I doubt if the intention is to retain him and I think the Spurs are trying to trade his expiring contract.

    I also think, for all his flaws and faults, Bonner is very tradeable for his unique value.

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    freaking belinelli

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    freaking belinelli

    Yeah, sucks to upgrade depth.

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    Yeah, sucks to upgrade depth.
    neal >>> belinelli

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    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/W..._Pekovic070813
    The same source said while unrestricted free agent forward Andrei Kirilenko's camp is pushing for a sign-and-trade, the more likely scenario has the Wolves renouncing his rights.



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    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/W..._Pekovic070813




    Dude that asked the question look like Rubio

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    I would have loved to have had AK 47 as a backup SF and PF, but the Spurs had other plans.

    I like both the Belinelli and Pendergraph signings. Marco should be able to help out right away and Pendergraph is Blair's replacement, a guy 3" taller and who has an outside jumper.

    The last two roster spots are more than likely going to come from the Summer League and possibly T-Mac signing for the Vet Min. I think Richards and/or Thomas will be on the roster for the Minimum next season and spend most of the year with the Toros developing. They are the only Spurs draft picks not under contract at the moment.
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    Dude that asked the question look like Rubio
    I'm pretty sure the guy asking the question is on the right, standing next to Rubio.

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    Not sure Utah wants to sign long term deal with Kirilenko,they are obviously tanking next season.That is probably the biggest reason he hasn't found a suitor yet,he wants a long term deal.

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    Spurs won't be able to re-sign him but the "love affair" between Pop and Bonner is highly overrated.

    This year, Bonner played 909 minutes in the regular season while Blair played 851 minutes and De Colo 920 minutes. In the playoffs, he played 267 minutes but if you take away the first 5 games where Diaw and/or Splitter were injured, he played 146 minutes in the last 16 games which makes 9.1 mpg.

    I don't think Spurs decision of keeping him for a cost of $3M was that easy to take and it's fully possible that the deadline did indeed get pushed and Spurs are still working on what to do with his partially guaranteed contract.
    Besides just the potential for amnesty, extending Bonner's deadline would also give the Spurs the ability to take back more salary for his contract than they had previously (~$4.6 Million last year to ~$6 Million this year). It's possible they had a trade target in mind that would require them to use that difference, but I couldn't tell you who that would be. Since the Wolves seem content to stay over the cap this season, they probably can be persuaded to take on a bit of Bonner's salary, provided the Spurs actually give them something of value to do so.

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    neal >>> belinelli
    Agreed. Neal lacks basic defensive skills like defensive awareness on the perimeter. Another thing Neal lacks is the awareness to step out of permanent heat check mode. From the games I've seen he takes so many ill-advised shots it's almost criminal. By default, Marco is an upgrade over Neal.
    I'm pretty sure the guy asking the question is on the right, standing next to Rubio.
    Good catch partner.

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