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    Ariza would be a good backup for Kawhi. Vesely would be neat if only to further expand the international flavor of the Spurs roster.

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    y'all are crazy if you think they'll give up Ariza.
    They just used the 3rd overall pick on a SF and signed Martell Webster to the full MLE. They also have 3 other players on rookie contracts who can play SF. Ariza is most definitely expendable.

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    y'all are crazy if you think they'll give up Ariza.
    Dude, he was salary ballast to make the Okafor trade work. He's played horrible for them, except maybe 4-6 weeks last year. His stock is not high.

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    y'all are crazy if you think they'll give up Ariza.
    Webster, Gee, Porter, Singelton. It's not all that crazy considering he's a 20-25 min guy avg 9 pts a game

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    y'all are crazy if you think they'll give up Ariza.
    They've made commitments to Webster & Porter @ the 3. Ariza's contract is pretty high for a rebuilding team that will only give him spot minutes.

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    Webster, Gee, Porter, Singelton. It's not all that crazy considering he's a 20-25 min guy avg 9 pts a game
    Gee is a Cav. not a Wiz.

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    Ariza for Blair and Bonner would be great. He's close to 6'9 in shoes, can shoot, defend and is expiring.

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    I would like Seraphin in a S&T

    Vesely is a massive bust and so is Singleton.

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    I wouldn't be against a De Colo + Blair for Vesely.

    Vesely has been terrible in Washington but he was very promising in Europe. Wizards selfish losing basketball is an horrible fit for him and he would be so much better in Spurs system. Chip can also help him to fix his shot.
    Vesely has a team option next year so if the staff didn't like what they saw, they could easily hit the reset button next offseason. Then there's a restricted qualifying offer the next year (same situation is Leonard but paid more - nice job on that pick Wizards). No idea why a team that had no shot at the playoffs didn't try harder at developing him last season by playing him just 12 minutes a game. I guess his foul shooting was really that bad. But it's not like Okafor is ever going to be a key piece in your puzzle.

    Wiz seemed to like Seraphin more who is just a year older. Do you think Vesely still has more untapped potential? Not sure what I think on Ariza - he may be a chucker on a bad team but a nice tool for a good team. Another consideration is the Wiz have a decent shot at the playoffs (I see two of them, Detroit and Cleveland making it) this year so (1) their draft pick isn't going to be THAT good, albeit in a stacked draft and (2) a guy like Ariza will help them win games

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    Dude, he was salary ballast to make the Okafor trade work. He's played horrible for them, except maybe 4-6 weeks last year. His stock is not high.
    Exactly. This isn't 2008.

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    Re: Spurs not wanting to trade Bonner, I know its mostly a joke, but can't we pretty much surmise that Bonner was in the S&T the Spurs wanted to do with Minnesota for Kirilenko? If they were going to pay him $8-9m as reported wouldn't Bonner's contract had to have been in the deal?

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    y'all are crazy if you think they'll give up Ariza.
    Ok I stand corrected. Thought he was still a baller.

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    I'd gladly take back junk if they'll throw in a 1st round pick. No way they give us a 2014, but maybe a 2015 or 2016?

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    Agreed. this yr. but in yrs passed in the early rounds?
    For sure, but I think the fact that he has improved should be a testament to his hard work. You want guys to improve and not necessarily regress, and he's definitely done that.

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    S&T Neal & Blair for an combined annual sal of 7-8 mil + Bonner and De Colo for Okafor's expiring contract plus a 1st Rd. pick and the rights to Emir Preldžić.

    Domt know how in the this would work, but whatever

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    Vesely has a team option next year so if the staff didn't like what they saw, they could easily hit the reset button next offseason.
    The deadline to pick Vesely 2014-2015 team option is November 1st 2013. They will have to decide at the end of the training camp.

    Wiz seemed to like Seraphin more who is just a year older. Do you think Vesely still has more untapped potential?
    I'm not a huge fan of Seraphin. He isn't a good defender or rebounder and is soft offensively (rarely get to the line). I would go with Vesely over him even if his NBA career has been a disaster so far.

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    My perfect S&T scenario with Washington would be Bonner + De Colo + Blair for Ariza +Vesely.
    To make it work it would require Blair being paid $4M per year. If Washington isn't ready to pay him that much, Mills or Baynes could be added to match salaries.

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    Ariza would be a great backup SF option. He's the only one I'd be interested in a potential trade with Washington tbh.

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    My perfect S&T scenario with Washington would be Bonner + De Colo + Blair for Ariza +Vesely.
    To make it work it would require Blair being paid $4M per year. If Washington isn't ready to pay him that much, Mills or Baynes could be added to match salaries.
    Would rather add Baynes and then go big time for Oden to replace him.

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    For sure, but I think the fact that he has improved should be a testament to his hard work. You want guys to improve and not necessarily regress, and he's definitely done that.


    Sure, but in all do respect when you reach the pinnacle do ur season and u come up flat, after 4 yrs of failure it's hard to imagine him maturing to the point where he could have a Steve Kerr type impact all of a sudden at the age of 33

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    then you cut him not a big deal
    spurs need a backup sf

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    Gee is a Cav. not a Wiz.
    Mixed up my ex spurs. Meant Temple

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    Ariza would be fine as a backup SF. He's getting paid too much and has sucked when given too much responsibility but in a smaller role he'd be helpful to the Spurs. The Spurs need for size on the perimeter is glaring, so the cost/need part of the scenario can be somewhat overlooked.

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    I would like Seraphin in a S&T

    Vesely is a massive bust and so is Singleton.
    Green was a bust in CLE. Guys who fail in unstructured systems thrive with the Spurs.

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