, they all missed critical free throws, kawhis' comes to mind, but that doesn't make him a terrible player. Manu choked, but that doesn't make him a terrible player, Pop made some mistakes, they do and did, but that doesn't warrant anyone's wrath and disdain. Pop, rightfully so IMHO, went with the players that got them there and at the time there was no way of knowing they would not come through again. Unfortunately they didn't, but it isn't the end of the world. Who do you think you are, judge, jury, and executioner? Could you have done better?
Get over yourself!
I, for one, never found anything you said as being even remotely racist.
However my other criticisms stand, and your posts back them up, sorry!
We've already been over the definitions of homerism and apparently you still don't understand.
Some people only hear and see what they want to hear and see, you illustrate this point perfectly.
Apparently you don't visit downstairs but I'll go ahead and replay this for you:
If you don't think luck plays a part in winning then you are not only irrational, but also self delusional.
Pop and Manu DID NOT SCREW IT ALL UP, THE WHOLE TEAM DID., and this is as much a fact as you not being racist. You made your point a million posts ago. What, you don't have enough confidence in what you said that you have to keep posting the same nonsense over and over and over again?
I'm just glad you're going back to school soon so we don't have to suffer through your inane posts anymore, geeez!
Get over yourself!m
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I just said that luck is part of winning championships. "We had that championship luck or the stars were aligned for us to be the champs but what happened?" Pop and Manu shat the bed in Game 6. Look, to each his own. Obviously we will never come to an agreement. Some people have their mind set already no matter how many fact are presented to them. I'm very open-minded and somebody has yet to convince me otherwise in regards to Pop and Manu so that tells a lot about how much homerism can blind someone's head.If you don't think luck plays a part in winning then you are not only irrational, but also self delusional.
Pop and Manu DID NOT SCREW IT ALL UP, THE WHOLE TEAM DID., and this is as much a fact as you not being racist.
I'm just glad you're going back to school soon so we don't have to suffer through your inane posts anymore, geeez!
Get over yourself!
But the Spurs didn't win it all, did they? No, so luck wasn't with them this time, final analysis!
And all you can do is claim and accuse "homerism", just like those others claimed and accused you of being a racist.
I don't buy either preposterous claim!
This is going to be the lingering debate for years to come but nobody on the Spurs will ever point the finger, it will always be a team blame and guys like Duncan will blame themselves. Pop of course doesn't even care anymore because he's not out there actually playing the game and has other things that occupy his mind when its not on basketball. I was really upset after the Finals, took me a few weeks to really let it go and still hurts when I see the commercials or they bring it up but for me what's done is done..
The hardest thing is the roster coming back, a lot of things will have to line up just right for the Spurs to get that kind of shot again. I think right now most Spur fans are okay that they brought back the same lineup with no major changes but I have a feeling that if we have a short season next year people will complain a lot more. I think the Spur FO will probably not rock the boat next season either, pretty much keep things the same way too regardless of how they do and then Spur fan will be even more upset. I don't agree with the money that Tiago & Manu are getting or picking up Pendergraph but that's on the FO. If things go south and we don't see Tiago step up and earn his money that's on the FO, if Manu falls apart that's on the FO..
Anyone who thinks that the 2013 NBA Finals was lost due SOLELY to the play of Manu Ginobili isn't a very good basketball analyst.
Anyone who thinks that the 2013 NBA Finals was lost due MOSTLY to the play of Manu Ginobili is understandable but still wrong.
Anyone who thinks that the 2013 NBA Finals was lost due to sporadically poor play by Ginobili coupled with opportunities missed by several other players and coach would be absolutely correct. Manu Ginobili had a bad series overall - no doubt about that. But lets not forget that Pop made mistakes in not having TD in the game at the end of game 6 and in not electing to foul to put the Heat on the line. TP was having a horrible game 6 (he did make some decent plays down the stretch despite horrendous decisions). His game 7 wasn't much better. Kawhi missed a FT to put the game up by 4 instead of 3 inside of 30 secs left. TD missed an easy layup and putback (2 shots) to tie the game late in game 7.
Even now, in perfect 20/20 hindsight, thinking the Ginobili himself was the cause for a loss of a championship is preposterous.
Now, him accepting less than $14 million/yr is another topic altogether. How much value should be placed on his play during the season to get the team into the playoffs and the Finals?
Well said overall. I think the same can be said of Manu. I feel that he rather be with his family than on the basketball court. One can only hope that the $14M will help tip the scale. Even then, I doubt since his $14 M didn't do for him in the finals.
If there is anyone, ANYONE, who thinks that professional sports players - especially players on teams that are in the Finals - would rather be somewhere else than playing IN THE FINALS, then those people have never played sports compe ively.
If there is anyone, ANYONE, who thinks that professional sports players - especially players on teams that are in the Finals - would rather be somewhere else than playing IN THE FINALS, then those people have never played sports compe ively.
Manu's not feeling that desire to win anymore. He is satisfied with his 3 rings. His "so-so" evaluation of himself tells it all. Just like Pop, he won't live up to his mistakes. Manu doesn't believe in himself anymore. He's content with having just reach Game 7. Tim on the other hand was devastated. Go google his pictures. A picture is worth a thousand words. Pop was laughing and hugging with Lebron & Dwade while Tim was emotionally destroyed. Tim Duncan has the heart of a champion. I'm not sure if Pop and Manu still have it in them. Heck, even Danny Green looked more devastated than Pop and Manu.
Ok, big mouth, show me the LINK where Manu is satisfied with his 3 wins, and that he has no desire to win anymore.
I defy you to do it.
You can't, can you? All you can show me is his "so-so" statement which in no way can be deduced to mean the same thing.
LINK, please!
mas o menos - more or less; roughly; approximately (lit.: more or less) http://www.languagerealm.com/spanish...shidioms_m.php He is supposed to say "I played bad. I let my team down" instead of "my performance was more or less."
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3185248AAd7WC9
That sounds to me like a player being honest about his past performance.
Playing bad is one thing - not caring is something completely different.
More BS from you!
He never said he was satisfied with his 3 rings, or that he had no desire anymore.
Just BS from you. Your posts are ridiculous drivel and nothing more.
His interviews said it all. He never truly believed that his team had a chance against the Heat. He was the most mentally weak player on the team, besides Matt Bonner, and paid the price by price with his performance in the NBA finals. Manu said it himself "I'm healthy, I feel fine." If he's physically fine then what is the problem?
so if a player doesn't agree with TGY's performance rating, they don't have a desire to play anymore?
Just say you made that up and stop spinning the BS, tbh...
so if a player doesn't agree with TGY's performance rating, they don't have a desire to play anymore?
Just say you made that up and stop spinning the BS, tbh...@ your failed attempt of translating "mas o menos" just to cover up the man you worship. Too bad I was banned when you wrote that thread because apparently everyone believed your ty translation.
I translated it as "so-so", so I don't know what "covering" you're talking about
Add "not reading" to the plethora of reasons why you were banned
"mas o menos"
8 ing turnovers in a clincher Finals game, 1 missed key FT, 3 Tos in game 6 overtime, 2 crucial TOs in game 7 4th quarter
his problem is 99% mental. His mental basketball state is finished, done. been done for over 1 year. I been preaching this and being persecuted by the COM
Manu can never recover his mental state, he will be a liability for the Spurs when he is on the floor from now until the day he retires.
sup hater, did you ask Evo for some spiritual guidance after that 2 year/$14m extension?
no guidance needed. I was not surprised by that ginormous waste of money at the hands of RC and Popsup hater, did you ask Evo for some spiritual guidance after that 2 year/$14m extension?
it was strictly a business decision. Manu sells tickets in San ANtonio. Them fat mexicans need someone to look up to and Manu's brown ass achieves this.
of course until after game 1 of next season when Manu will be supplanted by Marco as fat favorite for good and Manu's contract will become the dumbest and biggest waste of money in the RC era
Wow - a little extreme, no?no guidance needed. I was not surprised by that ginormous waste of money at the hands of RC and Pop
it was strictly a business decision. Manu sells tickets in San ANtonio. Them fat mexicans need someone to look up to and Manu's brown ass achieves this.
of course until after game 1 of next season when Manu will be supplanted by Marco as fat favorite for good and Manu's contract will become the dumbest and biggest waste of money in the RC era
Manu is worth $7 a year. He is. People look at his Finals and playoff work and think he's a bum. Let's not forget what he did during the regular season...
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