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    Just wait until the blue line joins the red line.

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    Why don't you educate them? This seems like a good place. Make sure to reference your work please.
    no. I have no interest in walking through the logical flow of corporate tax calculations on here. I will only state that it's a fact that corporations pay a higher percent of income in taxes in the U.S. than in any other developed country in the world.

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    no. I have no interest in walking through the logical flow of corporate tax calculations on here. I will only state that it's a fact that corporations pay a higher percent of income in taxes in the U.S. than in any other developed country in the world.
    What's the corporate share of total income in the US compared to other countries?

    lol switching the lanes to intellectually dishonest arguments

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    The problem exists with arcane tax laws. They do in fact provide corporations the ability to shift income to lower tax jurisdictions provided they meet certain requirements. The reason these exceptions to tax law exist is to try to even the playing field with other countries. It's difficult to compete if you are paying 42% of income in taxes while your compe or is paying 25-27% of income in taxes.

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    oooo...MIC spending doesn't agree with the moonbat. Imagine that.

    Would like to see some more granularity on Social Spending. Specifically the percentage of total spending for Social spending includes income security (Social Security, welfare, etc.), healthcare, education, housing, and recreation.

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    Well, justfacts doesn't really hide they're mostly conservative/libertarian in their viewpoints, tbh...

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    Well, justfacts doesn't really hide they're mostly conservative/libertarian in their viewpoints, tbh...
    Yeah. I like the way they overlaid the impacts of the proposed Ryan budget.

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    I'm curious what they label social spending. Treating a worthless piece of soldier for PTSD because he was too much of a pussy to handle the war he voluntarily signed up for is defense spending, not social spending tbh since it's a cost incurred by the military.

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    I'm curious what they label social spending. Treating a worthless piece of soldier for PTSD because he was too much of a pussy to handle the war he voluntarily signed up for is defense spending, not social spending tbh since it's a cost incurred by the military.
    AFAIK, they do include military benefits under military spending (one would assume the VA is there). Now if the soldier does need foodstamps or housing assistance at some point, then that sure goes into social spending.

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    Would like to see some more granularity on Social Spending. Specifically the percentage of total spending for Social spending includes income security (Social Security, welfare, etc.), healthcare, education, housing, and recreation.
    Go to the link and click the detailed presentation....the data is there to peruse.

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    AFAIK, they do include military benefits under military spending (one would assume the VA is there). Now if the soldier does need foodstamps or housing assistance at some point, then that sure goes into social spending.
    military personnel on food stamps
    "my military experience is going to get me a high paying job! Oh wait I'm on food stamps 10 years later!"

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    The problem with stuff like this is that normally they cherry pick (and I'm talking about both zfacts and justfacts)...

    For example, that graph Teysha posted is probably accurate, but what it doesn't tell you is that a lot of the financing for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were not part of the budget, so they don't really show up there.

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    military personnel on food stamps
    "my military experience is going to get me a high paying job! Oh wait I'm on food stamps 10 years later!"
    http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...od-stamps.html
    http://www.stripes.com/news/food-sta...years-1.160858

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    Go to the link and click the detailed presentation....the data is there to peruse.
    I may be blind, but I am still not seeing it. I want to know what percentage of social spending goes to SS, Medicare, welfare, etc.

    as I am sure was the author's intent, social spending looks scary, but Medicare and SS are contribution programs, not exactly the same as welfare and housing assistance...

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    no. I have no interest in walking through the logical flow of corporate tax calculations on here. I will only state that it's a fact that corporations pay a higher percent of income in taxes in the U.S. than in any other developed country in the world.
    Link your source.

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    Google is your friend.

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    So your statement is technically incorrect, but let's not quibble over a couple of countries. The United States does, in fact, have one of the highest effective corporate tax rates of any industrialized country in the world.

    Where on that list would you like to see the US fall? Would you support corporate tax reform that lowers effective tax rates but increases overall participation?

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    Google is your friend.
    And you are a failure.

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    What solution do you think is necessary to avoid a 10,000% increase in the projected federal deficit of 2035?
    Stop subsidizing deadbeats.

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    oooo...MIC spending doesn't agree with the moonbat. Imagine that.

    so you agree with the dubya/ head fraud of both Iraq and Afghanistan being paid for off the MIC books?

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    I may be blind, but I am still not seeing it. I want to know what percentage of social spending goes to SS, Medicare, welfare, etc.

    as I am sure was the author's intent, social spending looks scary, but Medicare and SS are contribution programs, not exactly the same as welfare and housing assistance...
    In the first third of the detail page is a section called "Quantifying the National Debt". He goes into the components of SS, Medicare, etc..and it looks like he's trying to net the balance of funded/unfunded and using the net as a component of "social spending".

    The footnotes below the chart led "Federal Government Current Expenditures by Function" contains the following footnote: † Social spending includes income security (Social Security, welfare, etc.), healthcare, education, housing, and recreation.

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    so you agree with the dubya/ head fraud of both Iraq and Afghanistan being paid for off the MIC books?
    I agree that you have no idea what you just said, nor could you back it up if you did.

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    And you are a failure.
    Chump with the big Fail Whale.

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- On Sunday, the United States gets a distinction no nation wants -- the world's highest corporate tax rate.

    Japan, which currently has the highest rate in the world -- a 39.8% rate on business income between national and local taxes -- cuts its rate to 36.8% as of April 1. The U.S. rate stands at 39.2% when both federal and state rates are included.
    http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/27/pf/t...axes/index.htm

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    In the first third of the detail page is a section called "Quantifying the National Debt". He goes into the components of SS, Medicare, etc..and it looks like he's trying to net the balance of funded/unfunded and using the net as a component of "social spending".

    The footnotes below the chart led "Federal Government Current Expenditures by Function" contains the following footnote: † Social spending includes income security (Social Security, welfare, etc.), healthcare, education, housing, and recreation.
    *edit* Rats. Just re-read your question. It looks like if you want that level of granularity, you'll have to request the data tables from him which he states he will provide upon request. I might just do that.

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