Lakers: Records owned by K. Bryant

[Michael Jordan.]

Pot meet kettle.

No deflecting over here. Just cold hard facts which I'm waiting on your response to. There's around 100 of em.

[LkrFan]

No deflecting over here. Just cold hard facts which I'm waiting on your response to. There's around 100 of em.

I could give about 7 years worth of cold hard factsPERIODD.

[Michael Jordan.]

I could give about 7 years worth of cold hard factsPERIODD.

Yet you can't answer 1 in this thread

[Michael Jordan.]

He’s very sensitive. I had to be really careful in criticizing him. I learned immediately as I started to deal with him as a young man how sensitive he was in particular if it was done in a group setting. My criticism was best done if it was in my office or alone.

[Leetonidas]

I could give about 7 years worth of cold hard factsPERIODD.

and you can't dispute any of the ones posted in this thread.

good to see my MJ still ethering Lakerfan this thread will serve as a constant reminder of your idol's selfishness and anti-clutchness

[Michael Jordan.]

This thread should be stickied for greatness

[Arnold Toht]

Who cares, Mike. With such a ty pot I'm folding the hand.. You can have MJ>Kobe, but just don't come crawling back for more when it's Kobe 6 Duncan 4.

[ambchang]

Kobe's Nash's beotch, tbh.

[Michael Jordan.]

[Leetonidas]

Kobe will never win a ring again. If he rings again I will never post on ST again. Pretty safe bet

[Michael Jordan.]

It's quiet

[LkrFan]

Bird owning MJ in the playoffs to the tune of a perfect 6- record is the stuff of legend. Damn shame how he made the GAt grab his ankles and bite his bottom lip like det. This ownage could be perceived as modern day slavery. This some Jim Crow !

[Michael Jordan.]

Kobe also plays clutch D

From 1998-99 to 2000-01, Shaq made the most shots in the league each year despite never ranking in the top three for field goal attempts, and made 57.2 percent or more of his shots. And that shooting percentage isbelow his career average, a 58.2 percent mark that is the NBA's all-time lead. (And those years were also Kobe's best shooting years. Maybe having Shaq around helped?)

And while Bill Simmons will probably tell jokes about Kobe's 6-for-24 clunker against the Celtics in Game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals until he can no longer tell jokes, Gasol coming up big against the Kendrick Perkins-less C's in the final two games of the series (17 points, 13 rebounds, and nine assists in Game 6, which saw Perkins play just over six minutes, and a 19-18 in Game 7) was what helped the Lakers come back from a 3-2 hole, and he was even better in Games 1 (23 and 14) and 2 (25-8 and six blocks). Kobe's best two scoring games that series (38 points in Game 5, and 33 in Game 4) both came in losses.

“Jordan was also more naturally inclined to let the game come to him and not overplay his hand, whereas Kobe tends to force the action, especially when the game isn’t going his way. When his shot is off, Kobe will pound away relentlessly until his luck turns. Michael, on the other hand, would shift his attention to defense or passing or setting screens to help the team win the game.”

-PJ

The first table includes 15 active players who have attempted at least 650 "clutch" shots since the 2000-01 season. Again, for this set, ‘clutch' is defined as "the shots that occur during the 4th quarter or overtime, with less than five minutes remaining, and neither team ahead by more than five points". Playoffs are included.

"Clutch" since 2000 (click column header to sort)

Player	FG	FGA	FG%	3PM	3PA	3P%	Ast'd	%Ast'd	Best	Worst
Kobe	606	1525	0.397	99	351	0.282	148	0.244	46%	32%
Pierce	450	1163	0.387	97	298	0.326	185	0.411	44%	21%
Dirk	443	1036	0.428	75	229	0.328	206	0.465	48%	37%
LeBron	461	1003	0.460	93	297	0.313	117	0.254	55%	37%
Vince	401	1001	0.401	67	217	0.309	159	0.397	50%	36%
R.Allen	371	0916	0.405	160	450	0.356	192	0.518	48%	34%
Terry	381	0870	0.438	108	285	0.379	164	0.430	55%	33%
KG	368	0848	0.434	8	36	0.222	212	0.576	65%	33%
Wade	321	0774	0.415	30	124	0.242	59	0.184	47%	32%
Duncan	376	0818	0.460	2	20	0.100	156	0.415	55%	36%
Nash	370	0806	0.459	125	314	0.398	65	0.176	56%	35%
A.Miller	269	0678	0.397	19	82	0.232	64	0.238	47%	26%
Billups	309	0796	0.388	120	367	0.327	110	0.356	46%	24%
Melo	276	0655	0.421	31	111	0.279	140	0.507	52%	38%
TMac	266	0714	0.373	44	164	0.268	89	0.335	42%	35%
Avg.	378	907	0.417	72	223	0.291	138	0.367	50%	33%

Observations:

• Of the 15 players listed, Kobe Bryant's shooting percentage (40%) was below average.

"Clutch" since 2006 (click column header to sort)

Player	FG	FGA	FG%	3PM	3PA	3P%	Ast'd	%Ast'd	Best	Worst
Kobe	317	769	0.412	58	185	0.314	69	0.218	46%	39%
LeBron	333	714	0.466	74	231	0.320	79	0.237	55%	42%
Dirk	235	541	0.434	34	107	0.318	107	0.455	48%	40%
Wade	205	507	0.404	27	101	0.267	34	0.166	47%	32%
Durant	191	479	0.399	40	123	0.325	103	0.539	47%	35%
Melo	193	447	0.432	23	72	0.319	84	0.435	52%	42%
Pierce	167	430	0.388	32	97	0.330	60	0.359	44%	21%
Vince	185	420	0.440	42	117	0.359	72	0.389	50%	38%
Russ	150	403	0.372	13	56	0.232	23	0.153	42%	30%
CP3	187	430	0.435	23	73	0.315	22	0.118	50%	37%
JJ	174	449	0.388	40	114	0.351	47	0.270	46%	32%
Iggy	158	394	0.401	24	112	0.214	28	0.177	48%	31%
Rose	168	401	0.419	4	31	0.129	23	0.137	44%	40%
R.Allen	151	391	0.386	78	215	0.363	105	0.695	44%	34%
Roy	166	371	0.447	24	71	0.338	26	0.157	48%	36%
Avg.	199	476	0.415	36	114	0.300	59	0.300	47%	35%

[LkrFan]

Kobe's Nash's beotch, tbh.

...and head2head when games matter, 4-1 says Tammy is Kobe's Beotch. Shhhhhhh!

[LkrFan]

^^ TLDNR tbh

[spurraider21]

...and head2head when games matter, 4-1 says Tammy is Kobe's Beotch. Shhhhhhh!

didn't tim beat kobe in 99 and 03? maybe if kobe made the playoffs in 05 they could have met then too, or if they passed the first round before acquiring pau. and kobe dodging tim this year. they stood no chance in the 1st round and kobe's Achilles quit

[HI-FI]

I feel sorry for LkrFan, decent poster but huge Kobe sucker. getting beat down, moving goalposts, sending PMs, cmon Lkrfan

[Leetonidas]

Spurs are 4-3 against the Lakers since 99 (including two sweeps ) so gtfo with that revisionist . And before you try to play the injury card let me quote your ST idol::

only pussies & assholes play the injury card

[LkrFan]

I feel sorry for LkrFan, decent poster but huge Kobe sucker. getting beat down, moving goalposts, sending PMs, cmon Lkrfan

I didn't send that got any PMs. I posted on his message board. Nothing private about det.

[Michael Jordan.]

I didn't send that got any PMs. I posted on his message board. Nothing private about det.

Salty, nonetheless

[LkrFan]

Salty, nonetheless

Seldom will I show any saltiness on this board. Here's a hint: now is not one of those times tbh.

I love it how you are going out of your way to try and discredit Kobe. No one on this board, including Lakers Fans will say Kobe > MJ overall. Sure, I think there are some things I think Kobe did better, but collectively MJ > Kobe. So when I see 95% of your 1,828 posts is rehashing stuff that we already knew about Kobe, it's kind of meh tbh. I mean, tell us something we don't already know.

But...something that most fans don't know about you is that you are on the wrong end of the 6- Green and White stick. And I'm gonna keep calling you out on it. Matter of fact, I think I'll start calling you "Bird !"

[Michael Jordan.]

Seldom will I show any saltiness on this board. Here's a hint: now is not one of those times tbh.

I love it how you are going out of your way to try and discredit Kobe. No one on this board, including Lakers Fans will say Kobe > MJ overall. Sure, I think there are some things I think Kobe did better, but collectively MJ > Kobe. So when I see 95% of your 1,828 posts is rehashing stuff that we already knew about Kobe, it's kind of meh tbh. I mean, tell us something we don't already know.

But...something that most fans don't know about you is that you are on the wrong end of the 6- Green and White stick. And I'm gonna keep calling you out on it. Matter of fact, I think I'll start calling you "Bird !"

Lol no one is going out of their way, son. I simply show facts why Kobe Bean Bryant is simply the most overrated player to ever walk the face of the earth. (Not clutch, doesn't have a great impact on team wins, very average player without a great big) You choose to ignore them which is fine, I would too if I was a Kobe stan. And it is pretty obvious that you are SALTY. You can't beat the ring argument which your got fanbase is notorious for. You really can't beat any argument. Which is why you can't come up with anything better than Boston. You're stuck at 5 and ya ain't going nowhere. You're helpless. I don't blame you. Your favorite player is nothing more than just average player whose weaknesses are covered up by dominant post presence. But be mad at your idol for being overrated. Not MJ. Now, let us proceed.


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[spurraider21]

I didn't send that got any PMs. I posted on his message board. Nothing private about det.

one of the points in that message board was "bird holding you to 46%"
higher than kirby's career average

[LkrFan]

Lol no one is going out of their way, son. I simply show facts why Kobe Bean Bryant is simply the most overrated player to ever walk the face of the earth. (Not clutch, doesn't have a great impact on team wins, very average player without a great big) You choose to ignore them which is fine, I would too if I was a Kobe stan. And it is pretty obvious that you are SALTY. You can't beat the ring argument which your got fanbase is notorious for. You really can't beat any argument. Which is why you can't come up with anything better than Boston. You're stuck at 5 and ya ain't going nowhere. You're helpless. I don't blame you. Your favorite player is nothing more than just average player whose weaknesses are covered up by dominant post presence. But be mad at your idol for being overrated. Not MJ. Now, let us proceed.


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Actually, only Boston can bring up any ring smack, tbqh. Yours all have an asterisk due to Bird taking your cookie - leading you to being 0 for the '80s.

It's funny how because I defend Kobe (a Laker) now he's my idol. That's rich. I've talked on him just as much as I've given him props. It's called not being a fair weather fan.

You can overrate Kobe if you wish, and this is the perfect forum to do it, but it is futile. Facts are there is nothing that MJ could do that Kobe wouldn't be able to do playing in your era. Your compe ion (Reggie Miller, Drexler, Dumars, Thunder Dan, Jeff Hornacek - to name a few) pales in comparison to the Kobe has battled tooth and nail for 17 years. Case in point, LBJ, Wade, Vincanity, Ray Allen - just to name a few, are all better than your compe ion. Even in his 17th year he was still kicking ass until his Achilles blew out.

It's cool though. Have your fun. The fact is the Lakers franchise helped save the NBA. Everytime MJ put on his jersey, he had a little reminder of Laker greatness in the form of the Logo to remind him that he should pay homage. That goes for Tammy, _irk, and any other star. Remember that son.

at your ring smack, when you didn't win against any of the legendary teams. Zilch. Nada. Zerro. The GOAT, owned by Bird. A player Magic waxed twice in the Finals. Yet you are the GOAT?

[Michael Jordan.]

Actually, only Boston can bring up any ring smack, tbqh. Yours all have an asterisk due to Bird taking your cookie.

It's funny how because I defend Kobe (a Laker) now he's my idol. That's rich. I've talked on him just as much as I've given him props. It's called not being a fair weather fan.

You can overrate Kobe if you wish, and this is the perfect forum to do it, but it is futile. Facts are there is nothing that MJ could do that Kobe wouldn't be able to do. Your compe ion (Reggie Miller, Drexler, Dumars, Thunder Dan, Jeff Hornacek - to name a few) pales in comparison to the Kobe has battled tooth and nail for 17 years. Case in point, LBJ, Wade, Vincanity, Ray Allen - just to name a few, are all better than your compe ion. Even in his 17th year he was still kicking ass until his Achilles blew out.

It's cool though. Have your fun. The fact is the Lakers franchise helped save the NBA. Everytime MJ put on his jersey, he had a little reminder of Laker greatness in the form of the Logo to remind him that he should pay homage. That goes for Tammy, _irk, and any other star. Remember that son.

at your ring smack, when you didn't win against any of the legendary teams. Zilch. Nada. Zerro. The GOAT, owned by Bird. A player Magic waxed twice in the Finals. Yet you are the GOAT?

really? Where did you give him for missing the playoffs in his prime?