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    Raptors have waived Quentin Richardson. I don't know how much he has left in the tank but on the paper he would be a nice fit for Spurs as a 3 and D player.

    Saying that James Johnson is my pick for that 15th spot right now. I take him over Childress and other potential vets like Q Rich, Pietrus or Josh Howard.

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    Raptors have waived Quentin Richardson. I don't know how much he has left in the tank but on the paper he would be a nice fit for Spurs as a 3 and D player.

    Saying that James Johnson is my pick for that 15th spot right now. I take him over Childress and other potential vets like Q Rich, Pietrus or Josh Howard.
    I tend to agree.

    However, I don't think James Johnson is a high IQ basketball player. Not sure about Childress, have never really seen him play. The other folks, well they are all too old.

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    Raptors have waived Quentin Richardson. I don't know how much he has left in the tank but on the paper he would be a nice fit for Spurs as a 3 and D player
    there is a D in "3 and D"

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    there is a D in "3 and D"
    I never saw him as a 3 and D either. I think his best season that I remember was in 04-05 with the suns, and I think the best defender on that team was either Marion or Johnson. And even then he didn't play good D. I don't see any way how a washed up old dude can play good D when he couldn't do it when he was in his prime.

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    Saying that James Johnson is my pick for that 15th spot right now. I take him over Childress and other potential vets like Q Rich, Pietrus or Josh Howard.
    agree. but I assume the JJ workout must have happened several days ago.....if he had impressed, shouldn't we have heard something? if he didn't, we won't hear anything at all. and we didn't. so, pretty low chance for that signing I guess.

    btw. lot of talks today that Hedo will be bought out soon. any chance the Spurs are waiting for that decision? (rumors say that Hedo has a pretty nice offer from Fenerbace, worth about 3.5 M per). people will cry washed up and that he already failed with the Spurs etc.
    But I would bet 20 hairroots that they at least give him a call.
    last season was a nightmare, the broken hand, the steroids suspension, playing with a rebuilding team that definitely doesn't have a place for you etc. 2011/12 wasn't great either, but that year he at least still delivered a few pretty good games. if he can get back to that level, he is worth a thought.

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    This is the guy I want for the backup SF position. When healthy he is one of best two way wing players in Europe. The problem is that he is already 35 and pretty much retired last year due to health problems. But if he has recovered I would definitely give him a shot.
    I don't really get how the Sixers are in the conversation though, they are clearly rebuilding right now.

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    agree. but I assume the JJ workout must have happened several days ago.....if he had impressed, shouldn't we have heard something? if he didn't, we won't hear anything at all. and we didn't. so, pretty low chance for that signing I guess.
    Spurs aren't working out these players that late in the summer with the intent of giving them guaranteed contracts. They are likely offering them training camp invites with not to very little guaranteed money. Players aren't jumping on that kind of offers and are taking their time to find the team with the best opportunity to stick for the season.

    Johnson workout might have gone well and Spurs might have made him a training camp invite and he is waiting to see if another team is a better pick for him.

    btw. lot of talks today that Hedo will be bought out soon. any chance the Spurs are waiting for that decision?
    Spurs signing Hedo wouldn't surprised me at all. Form the little I've seen, he has looked relatively good with Turkey this summer even if he is a little out of shape after his awful year.

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    Hedo I don't think makes sense for the spurs.

    I've always seen him as a player that needs the ball in his hands to be effective. Assuming our bench is Belli/Manu/Diaw, those are all people who handle the ball and can pass.

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    I'm not sure Turkoglu would be any better than Jackson was for the Spurs at this point. Pop and RC need to be committed to adding another athletic perimeter player before the start next year's postseason.

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    hedo would be great! not a prospect 3/4. but would be a super solid role player. he wont d. but he 3s and dimes. and i think hes a decent rebounder.

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    If he won't D, he won't Spur.

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    On the surface, Turkoglu may seem like a good fit, but he really wouldn't be. They need a 3D (emphasis on D) type; someone capable of defending Durant/James, if need be. He also thinks he's better than he is and would probably struggle to accept being a fringe - non rotation player.

    Even if the report from early in the summer about Pietrus supposedly being healthy for the first time in two years and looking good in pickup games is exaggerated in order to drum up interest, if you look at his stats from the past few years, he's basically a slightly better three-point shooting version of Jackson. As awful as that sounds (and is), if Jackson were on a one year, non guaranteed, minimum contract and only utilized in a blowout or in case Leonard or Green were injured, he would have been acceptable.

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    If he won't D, he won't Spur.
    Neal and Bonner proves this wrong.

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    Hedo isn't ideal but at that stage of the offseason there isn't much better available.

    The "ideal" backup SF would be long/strong, be a good 3 point shooter and be a good defender. As far as I know, there isn't a single player who has these 3 characteristics. These players were available in July but are long gone.

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    Neal and Bonner proves this wrong.
    Neal is a bad defender, Bonner isn't.

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    Neal and Bonner proves this wrong.
    Both are lights out shooters though. That is pretty much the only reason I assume Pop gives them a pass.

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    Hedo isn't ideal but at that stage of the offseason there isn't much better available.

    The "ideal" backup SF would be long/strong, be a good 3 point shooter and be a good defender. As far as I know, there isn't a single player who has these 3 characteristics. These players were available in July but are long gone.
    seems like trade is the only way to get that player at this point. as pointed before, Spurs are not in a bad position for a trade, especially if it is for a 2nd string player. they have a lot of room under the tax threshold, they have some expendable players at almost every position (except SF), they can combine several such contracts to a number that fits.
    I no longer think they will use the 2014 pick as a teaser, especially not after they hired Telep. I even wouldn't be surprised, if they somehow try to aquire another 2014 pick. The Kawhi experience once more shows, that draft is the way (the only way) for the Spurs to secure the future after Tim.

    so (this comes from some boredom, take it with a grain of salt) what about a totally different approach and a scenario like this: (chance to happen: 1%). Spurs are willing to swallow a bad contract, if it brings a pick as well. let's say Landry Fields. (ok, some might remember that I was a big fan before the 2010 draft). at this point totally overpayed, but overall the kind of player Spurs would need for the back up SF spot.
    Raptors are in tax territory, a trade lowers the tax bill will be welcomed. Fields struggled to find his place in Toronto, his elbow injury at the beginning of last season didn't help his case and raptors quickly lost pacience and traded for Rudy Gay. he is better than what we saw last year. (and very likely a typical system player, someone who usually fits with the Spurs).
    what's the deal?
    Raptors trade Fields plus their 2014 1st rounder for Bonner plus Cory Joseph.

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    Raptors are in tax territory, a trade lowers the tax bill will be welcomed.
    (...)
    Raptors trade Fields plus their 2014 1st rounder for Bonner plus Cory Joseph.
    Raptors are in fact just below the tax. If they trade a first round pick, they will surely heavily protect it because they could be really bad next season.

    More globally, I don't think Spurs are now really trying to make a deal. They must evaluate first what they have to determine what they really need. For example the need for a backup SF could be non-existent if Ginobili stay healthy, Belinelli adjust well to Spurs and De Colo does well at the SG spot.

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    LOL FO won't make anymore moves

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    Now that Neal is gone, Hedo could have his old #14 back!

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    ... and the Spurs keep getting linked to point guards for whatever reason.

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    Spurs/Pop could have some kind some kind of agreement with Brown/Sixers to give them Mills if they find a vet they like to take his 3rd string PG spot. It would explain why Spurs are looking at PGs that late in the summer.

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/96...ns-sources-say

    I'm not a huge fan of Beasley, but he's always been on piss poor teams. Scouts will still tell you he is a highly skilled player. There's a take on Realgm.com that says just that. I've always heard it said you can have one head case on your team. And the Spurs don't have any right now. They have lots of veteran leadership. Again, I don't love the guy, but the minute he is released, he becomes the best small forward on the market. Yes, that's how bad the market is for small forwards.

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    Spurs/Pop could have some kind some kind of agreement with Brown/Sixers to give them Mills if they find a vet they like to take his 3rd string PG spot. It would explain why Spurs are looking at PGs that late in the summer.
    if Brown wants Mills that bad, he would already got him. a 2nd rounder will do it.

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