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    jameis winston said he wanted to go to Texas but they never called him back


    can someone explain this failure of recruiting at the qb position?

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    jameis winston said he wanted to go to Texas but they never called him back


    can someone explain this failure of recruiting at the qb position?
    If you followed recruiting that year you'd know he would go to Bama or Stanford if not FSU. Don't believe everything a 16 year old says, they like to play the recruiting game.

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    Kind of like this:

    Despite growing up in Game s country, (Jadeveon) Clowney was a Texas fan, idolizing Longhorns stars such as Ricky Williams and Vince Young. Texas never recruited him, but he said he would have taken an official visit there if he had ever heard from the Longhorns.
    I didn’t think I’d ever get to play for them, but I like them,” he said.


    It's just shows that the old staff didn't turn many rocks around the nation.

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    If you followed recruiting that year you'd know he would go to Bama or Stanford if not FSU. Don't believe everything a 16 year old says, they like to play the recruiting game.
    Kind of like this:

    Despite growing up in Game s country, (Jadeveon) Clowney was a Texas fan, idolizing Longhorns stars such as Ricky Williams and Vince Young. Texas never recruited him, but he said he would have taken an official visit there if he had ever heard from the Longhorns.
    I didn’t think I’d ever get to play for them, but I like them,” he said.


    It's just shows that the old staff didn't turn many rocks around the nation.

    word. texas needs to take a leap of faith on the out of state kids. i see they've started targeting a lot of louisiana kids as of late, though.

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    Brett McMurphy:

    Jameis Winston: "I'm an OU fan but I always wanted to go to Texas. If I'd gotten offer from Texas I'd be going to Texas right now"10:25pm*- 2 Sep 13

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    Again, if you follow Texas recruiting you'd know not to believe that.

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    New AP poll out. Texas remains at #15:

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings

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    Again, if you follow Texas recruiting you'd know not to believe that.
    Did UT offer him?

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    Most of these kids that say "I would have gone to Texas if I had been offered" just wanted an offer from Texas to put on the wall. They had no intention of ever signing a LOI.

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    Dr. Lou is always good for a laugh:

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    Lou Holtz thinks a one-loss #TAMU team should play for the national le cuz they go against LSU, SoCar, UGA, and Florida. They dont.

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    Highlight video for the New Mexico State game:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM0y5...1IYQ_kGxISNFeg

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    Again, if you follow Texas recruiting you'd know not to believe that.

    Not true - Winston's coach couldn't even get a call back from Texas staff. I've heard Texas didn't recruit him b/c Harsin loved Conner Brewer and remember Winston was high risk to take baseball route.

    I don't blame Mack for Manziel or RGIII bc everybody passed on them - but Winston was top recruit. Insane miss.

    Read this for yourself - why would they lie about?

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...cruiting-tale-

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    Most of these kids that say "I would have gone to Texas if I had been offered" just wanted an offer from Texas to put on the wall. They had no intention of ever signing a LOI.
    So if #1 QB in country says your school is favorite, is best route to not bother even contacting him in fear it is ploy to boost his ego? They shouldn't even invest a few minutes to call him or coach? I don't get logic implied.

    Even if true Texas wasn't top, door was open and top recruits take hard work.

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    I'm done addressing the issue, tired of talking about it on the shag.

    OG Aaron Garza picked up offers from Ole Miss and USC today. Already has a Baylor offer as well.

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    So if #1 QB in country says your school is favorite, is best route to not bother even contacting him in fear it is ploy to boost his ego? They shouldn't even invest a few minutes to call him or coach? I don't get logic implied.

    Even if true Texas wasn't top, door was open and top recruits take hard work.
    I'm usually in the "In Mack we trust" camp, but by his own admission, he made a phone call to a trusted source and he told Mack the kid was not going to UT and he was wasting his time. You have to do more than make an inquiry to a third party when it comes to the top rated kid at his position, particularly a QB. Once you get the kid on campus, crazy things can happen. It looks like this staff has a different approach and won't allow another situation like this to occur.

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    I'm usually in the "In Mack we trust" camp, but by his own admission, he made a phone call to a trusted source and he told Mack the kid was not going to UT and he was wasting his time. You have to do more than make an inquiry to a third party when it comes to the top rated kid at his position, particularly a QB. Once you get the kid on campus, crazy things can happen. It looks like this staff has a different approach and won't allow another situation like this to occur.
    Mack has had plenty of ups in the recruiting process the last 4 years as it pertains to the quarteback position. Gilbert. Wood. Griffin III. JFF. Brewer. This isn't one of them. This happened late in the process. He was already committed. Alabama was in the picture. There aren't too many recruits of this caliber that Texas could even think about pulling out of that state. This screams of a kid who wanted an offer just to say he got one. Texas has dropped the ball recently, but if they had any indication he was serious he would've visited. Maybe the er saw that the way to win a Heisman is to say Texas spurned you, because he's playing the part perfectly.

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    Mack has had plenty of ups in the recruiting process the last 4 years as it pertains to the quarteback position. Gilbert. Wood. Griffin III. JFF. Brewer. This isn't one of them. This happened late in the process. He was already committed. Alabama was in the picture. There aren't too many recruits of this caliber that Texas could even think about pulling out of that state. This screams of a kid who wanted an offer just to say he got one. Texas has dropped the ball recently, but if they had any indication he was serious he would've visited. Maybe the er saw that the way to win a Heisman is to say Texas spurned you, because he's playing the part perfectly.
    I agree with everything that you said, but what would it have hurt to bring him in? See if he was serious and ask him to visit. At that time Mack wasn't offering anyone unless it was in person. If he comes, game on. If not, than it was all smoke.

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    Connor Wood looked great for Colorado this weekend.

    Lolsmh UT

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    Connor Wood looked great for Colorado this weekend.

    Lolsmh UT
    Of course he did.

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    Of course he did.
    Was he slotted to play safety or corner for UT? I forget.

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    Was he slotted to play safety or corner for UT? I forget.
    He was slotted to ride the bench behind Colt's slightly creepy, videographer brother. Daddeh would have pitched a fit if Case didn't play. Can't have that. Scares you to death.

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    Connor had many opportunities to prove he could play QB at Texas, and he never showed anything to the coaches that would have afforded him that opportunity. Not only that but he also got passed on the depth chart by Swoops.

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    Connor had many opportunities to prove he could play QB at Texas, and he never showed anything to the coaches that would have afforded him that opportunity. Not only that but he also got passed on the depth chart by Swoops.
    That's not possible considering Swoopes was still in high school when Wood transfered. And our staffs judgement of quarterback play is fubar.

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    Mack has had plenty of ups in the recruiting process the last 4 years as it pertains to the quarteback position. Gilbert. Wood. Griffin III. JFF. Brewer. This isn't one of them. This happened late in the process. He was already committed. Alabama was in the picture. There aren't too many recruits of this caliber that Texas could even think about pulling out of that state. This screams of a kid who wanted an offer just to say he got one. Texas has dropped the ball recently, but if they had any indication he was serious he would've visited. Maybe the er saw that the way to win a Heisman is to say Texas spurned you, because he's playing the part perfectly.

    Not true - this did not happen late in the process. Winston and his coach both stated they tried to contact Longhorns 4-5 times early in the process, and this started before Connor Brewer committed early according to their statements.

    Reality - Mack and Harsin loved Connor Brewer and they viewed him as the higher probability guy to commit - and they promised him he would be only QB taken in the class to secure early commitment. They did not want to risk losing his commitment in going after a lower probability to secure recruit like Winston - who I agree was likely to go to FSU, Bama, or even skip football for baseball route. I certainly understand them wanting to go the safer route - but once again where is Brewer and it goes down to evaluations.

    I do not disagree that some players do not have interest in Texas and just want an offer - but to not even call or spend 5 minutes reaching out to the #1 rated QB early in the process when he says he would commit to you is a massive up.

    You could not possibly rationalize that it was not worthwhile for Mack or Harsin to call Winston or his coach back early in the process to gauge first hand if he was indeed serious. Maybe you are right that he was not, but that was 5 minutes of effort they did not take to truly find out.
    Last edited by the chronic; 09-04-2013 at 11:45 AM.

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    you have access to all these QBs that are kicking ass, yet somehow David Ash is that starter and Creep McCoy is the backup.

    It's painfully re ed

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