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    this show likes its color symbolism. if it means anything, Marie was wearing black. you know what that implies...
    No, she was wearing purple.

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    I think Walt was pretty stupid to stop his car and get out and look around after he saw no signs of life where he hid the money. Or at least get back in his car and drive and take the phone somewhere else.
    the money didn't matter, they had him confessing to multiple homicides, that's why jesse stopped talking

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    I think that M60 is going to be to kill he White Power guys.

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    i just loved how they kept showing that one guy had an AA12 for no other reason than to show he had a ing AA12

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    the money didn't matter, they had him confessing to multiple homicides, that's why jesse stopped talking
    the money didn't matter to who? And at that point, Walt was worried about a trap. He quickly took the battery out of his phone. A little more thought and he could have hopped back in his car, driven farther out, then throw the phone out the window.

    I think the money always matters to Walt. He'd come back for it at some point. Assuming he was able to get away.

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    the money didn't matter to who? And at that point, Walt was worried about a trap. He quickly took the battery out of his phone. A little more thought and he could have hopped back in his car, driven farther out, then throw the phone out the window.

    I think the money always matters to Walt. He'd come back for it at some point. Assuming he was able to get away.
    Didn't matter to Hank, and while he was outside, he saw something burning IIRC. Also he has just finished saying "Jesse I'm here" so leaving would be pointless cause he just divulged where his money was

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    Didn't matter to Hank, and while he was outside, he saw something burning IIRC. Also he has just finished saying "Jesse I'm here" so leaving would be pointless cause he just divulged where his money was
    you lost me...I agree the money doesn't matter to Hank. Other than a way to get Walt.

    when he (Walt) said, "Jesse, I'm here", there was still plenty of time to keep going. I don't think he was at the site. I sure don't remember him seeing anything burning.
    All minor points anyway.

    I agree with those that said the biggest flaw was no one getting shot. Especially the agents who had no cover initially and several guns trained on them.

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    I don't understand the people, here and elsewhere, freaking out that no one got shot. The closing credits came up mid-gunfight, so we won't know who ultimately makes it through until next week. But on top of that, the entirety of the shootout was filmed as a series of disjointed closeups; the viewers were intentionally denied any sense of the outcome thus far. That they were still shooting at each other implies that at least Hank or Gomez are still alive enough to be fighting back, but that still leaves a lot of possibilities open.

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    I don't understand the people, here and elsewhere, freaking out that no one got shot. The closing credits came up mid-gunfight, so we won't know who ultimately makes it through until next week. But on top of that, the entirety of the shootout was filmed as a series of disjointed closeups; the viewers were intentionally denied any sense of the outcome thus far. That they were still shooting at each other implies that at least Hank or Gomez are still alive enough to be fighting back, but that still leaves a lot of possibilities open.
    Exactly, tbh..

    As somebody said earlier in the thread, it was simply a device to create a cliffhanger for the next episode, tbh..as I said before, I fully expect Gomez to be dead at the start of the next episode, and Hank to die during the first 5-10 minutes, tbh..

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    I don't understand the people, here and elsewhere, freaking out that no one got shot. The closing credits came up mid-gunfight, so we won't know who ultimately makes it through until next week. But on top of that, the entirety of the shootout was filmed as a series of disjointed closeups; the viewers were intentionally denied any sense of the outcome thus far. That they were still shooting at each other implies that at least Hank or Gomez are still alive enough to be fighting back, but that still leaves a lot of possibilities open.
    I'm talking about UP TO then. Someone should already be dead
    The shoot-out was more clear and ordered than you say. For s sake it took them a few seconds just to take cover due to them returning fire. At l east that much we saw perfectly

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    the money didn't matter to who? And at that point, Walt was worried about a trap. He quickly took the battery out of his phone. A little more thought and he could have hopped back in his car, driven farther out, then throw the phone out the window.

    I think the money always matters to Walt. He'd come back for it at some point. Assuming he was able to get away.
    In defense of Walt lack of critical thinking at that moment.... was hitting the fan and happening so fast. He completely lost his cool and wasn't thinking straight from the moment he got the text pic.

    As for the shoot out, nobody knows what happened yet so why all the freaking out.

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    imo, I see Gomez definitely dead within the first few minutes. Then Hank surrendering and eventually getting executed by the Nazis sometime in the episode. Then Walt making a run for it from the compound with Jesse forced to stay there and cook for them. Then of course, the flash forwards will proceed in 'Granite State', second to last episode and Walt kills everyone and Jesse killing him.

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    The shoot-out was more clear and ordered than you say. For s sake it took them a few seconds just to take cover due to them returning fire. At l east that much we saw perfectly
    lol pretty much the entire sequence was shown in slow mo you moron

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    In defense of Walt lack of critical thinking at that moment.... was hitting the fan and happening so fast. He completely lost his cool and wasn't thinking straight from the moment he got the text pic.

    As for the shoot out, nobody knows what happened yet so why all the freaking out.

    That brings up another point that I thought of during the show and then just let it go.

    When Hank buried the barrels, they were 6 feet underground or so. In the pic that was sent to him, the top of the barrel was flush with the ground. I agree with your hitting the fan explanation for the most part but he should have recognized (instantly or on the way) that this was not one of the barrels he buried. Not to mention, he buried them all together and the pic was clearly a barrel by itself.

    And Cuban Sucks is dead on. The agents should have been well before they got to cover. Not that I'll give a in the end...but you'd expect them both to be dead in seconds with those guns trained on them.

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    For anyone complaining about accuracy, they weren't as close as some of the scenes suggested they were. And even then, I would think it's harder to aim when you being fired on back no matter what gun it is. Either way, both Gomez and Hank will be dead by the end of the next episode.

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    That brings up another point that I thought of during the show and then just let it go.

    When Hank buried the barrels, they were 6 feet underground or so. In the pic that was sent to him, the top of the barrel was flush with the ground. I agree with your hitting the fan explanation for the most part but he should have recognized (instantly or on the way) that this was not one of the barrels he buried. Not to mention, he buried them all together and the pic was clearly a barrel by itself.

    And Cuban Sucks is dead on. The agents should have been well before they got to cover. Not that I'll give a in the end...but you'd expect them both to be dead in seconds with those guns trained on them.
    I don't get it, because Walt buried the barrels, Jessie couldn't have dug up a barrel and brought it to ground level? Who would even notice the ground level on a cell phone pic in that scenario?

    Why would Walt assume Jessie reconstructed a barrel in the desert rather than it being his actual barrels? Surely, Jessie would have to know practically everything about Walt's burial to even know he was hiding barrels of money in the first place.

    Your willing suspension of disbelief is mind-boggling low.

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    I don't get it, because Walt buried the barrels, Jessie couldn't have dug up a barrel and brought it to ground level? Who would even notice the ground level on a cell phone pic in that scenario?

    Why would Walt assume Jessie reconstructed a barrel in the desert rather than it being his actual barrels? Surely, Jessie would have to know practically everything about Walt's burial to even know he was hiding barrels of money in the first place.

    Your willing suspension of disbelief is mind-boggling low.
    People are really underestimating the evolution of Jesse. He's no longer some drugged out idiot who thinks creating a robot to get out of the desert in 4 Days out. He's the one who came up with the magnet idea, he's the one who came up with the train robbery, and he just needed a little hint to put the pieces together about Brock. His original theory in season 4 was that Walt DID poison Brock but Walt manipulated him like he always does. With a Jesse who doesn't give a about Walt, he's grown into a smart criminal. And with the help of Hank, those two can definitely match wits with Walt.

    And Walt really only cares about two things. His family (including Jesse and Hank) and his empire (money). Once you threaten one, he will go to extreme measures to protect what's his and leave everything to emotion. Jesse knew exactly how many barrels of cash there was, knew it was in the desert, knew how to get the information, and knew about a van possibly having a GPS. No way would Walt think he's just bluffing him the whole time. And no way would he think that Jesse, the strung out druggie who HATES Hank would be working with the DEA. He would imagine Jesse would shoot him in the head before going to the Feds. And what trust he has left for Jesse is gone but he still won't kill him.

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    lol pretty much the entire sequence was shown in slow mo you moron
    lol except it wasn't, you ass full of aids

    a few snippets here and there sure

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    Now I know why no one was hit..........it was all camera trickery for the surprise opening of next week's episode

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    They're taking at least two Nazis with them.

    The long shot makes the missing a little more plausible, and definitely an escape by Jesse. Hank and Gomez are probably wearing vests too.

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    I don't get it, because Walt buried the barrels, Jessie couldn't have dug up a barrel and brought it to ground level? Who would even notice the ground level on a cell phone pic in that scenario?

    Why would Walt assume Jessie reconstructed a barrel in the desert rather than it being his actual barrels? Surely, Jessie would have to know practically everything about Walt's burial to even know he was hiding barrels of money in the first place.

    Your willing suspension of disbelief is mind-boggling low.
    I noticed it from from a pic on a cell phone being displayed on my ing TV. It was one barrel completely buried with the lid open and flush with the top of the ground. Not even close to what Walt did. Jesse would have had to dig up Walt's barrel, then dig another hole and drop that one barrel in. And then mention to Walt that he found 5 others? He would have found all of them in the initial dig. Why not just take a picture of all of them?

    I love the show and I'm willing to suspend belief. But to think that Walt is suddenly a dumb ass is hard for me to swallow.

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    In defense of Walt lack of critical thinking at that moment.... was hitting the fan and happening so fast. He completely lost his cool and wasn't thinking straight from the moment he got the text pic.

    As for the shoot out, nobody knows what happened yet so why all the freaking out.
    Yep, and I doubt Walt spills the beans like that to anyone other than Jesse for obvious reasons.

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    There's also the fact that the fat Humpty Dumpty gave them details about Walt's money and the return of the rental car, etc, tbh..

    Take that + Jesse's knowledge of Walt and his tendencies, and it's a believable reaction from Walt IMO..

    I don't defend everything the great shows try to convey as realistic, tbh, but I didn't have a problem with any of this episode's events..tbh, if I had to choose one scene from this season that suffered from lack of realism, it's when Jesse realized his drugs were swiped by Huell(sp?) and made the Walt-Saul-Brock connection in a matter of seconds, tbh..

    I let it slide, though, because like I said earlier, the elite shows receive leeway..

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    I noticed it from from a pic on a cell phone being displayed on my ing TV. It was one barrel completely buried with the lid open and flush with the top of the ground. Not even close to what Walt did. Jesse would have had to dig up Walt's barrel, then dig another hole and drop that one barrel in. And then mention to Walt that he found 5 others? He would have found all of them in the initial dig. Why not just take a picture of all of them?

    I love the show and I'm willing to suspend belief. But to think that Walt is suddenly a dumb ass is hard for me to swallow.
    You saw from your ing TV that the picture on his small flip phone was of a barrel flush with the ground, WTF? I just looked at the scene again and I saw it as the barrel was at ground level, with the photo taken from above.

    Even if you were correct, you seriously think in any case, even after Jessie outlined exactly how he discovered the barrels, Walt would say 'Well this barrel of money CAN'T be mine, because the barrel's opening shouldn't be aligned with the ground!"

    You're looking for continuity errors in the story and acting as if characters within the story should be aware of said continuity errors.

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    You saw from your ing TV that the picture on his small flip phone was of a barrel flush with the ground, WTF? I just looked at the scene again and I saw it as the barrel was at ground level, with the photo taken from above.

    Even if you were correct, you seriously think in any case, even after Jessie outlined exactly how he discovered the barrels, Walt would say 'Well this barrel of money CAN'T be mine, because the barrel's opening shouldn't be aligned with the ground!"

    You're looking for continuity errors in the story and acting as if characters within the story should be aware of said continuity errors.
    I've got a big TV. If I'm wrong I apologize. But I thought the pic was of the barrel in the ground with the lid sitting right next to it. And Jesse didn't describe how he found the barrels did he? At least not until Walt was in the car.

    I'm not looking for anything. I just notice things and if they don't make sense I bring them up like everyone else. Obviously, enough people thought the gunfight was a little off in that no one got hit in the first few seconds.

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