Why Your Team Sucks 2013: Jacksonville Jaguars

[Chinook]

I will answer this for you because you don't seem like a parroting troll got cuck. Denver was the lightning in a bottle team for Tebow. He had a legit top defense keeping him in games til the end only for the opposition to finally break down defensively and Tebow got some lucky breaks. There is no denying that Tebow had some running skill but the read option was not a offense that every team was preparing for on a consistent basis. It was a nitch at the time somewhat ala the Wildcat offense when the Dolphins broke that out.

The year Tebow was drafted the Jaguars were picking 10th. Now the Jags have made some really ing dumb picks in the past Matt Jones - RJ Soward - Reggie Williams to name a few, the Jags were trying to replace the void left at DT when Stroud and Henderson left the team and ended up drafting Tyson AluAlu. Most notably at the time David Garrard was definitely the Jags QB. Garrard had just finished 2 straight decent years at the QB spot. The last thing the Jags were going to do was spend the 10th pick on a project qb.

Once the jags bought the koolaid on Gabbert they were stuck with giving him the job and the chance to make something out of it. I dont care who your team is or what the situation is but a team that trades up in the top ten to draft there supposed franchise QB must give him the appropriate amount of time to sink or swim. What alot of the idiot s dont understand is that this is Gabberts 3rd year and he's 23 years old. If he'd stayed in school like Andre Luck did he would be in his 1-2 year. It's not as if he's in his 4th-5th year and the Jags haven't moved on. Show me a team that gave up on a top ten QB after 2 years??

Currently the New Jags GM David Caldwell is not going to sign a circus joke QB named tebow to appease the idiots solely because he's from the Jacksonville area. The GM is going to let the mistakes happen with the previous GM's picks and ride the train to draft his own Franchise QB. He's not going to waste time on a ing gimmick. He's not going to draft a ty qb in the fourth round to later cut him or draft a ing punter in the 3rd round and pass up QB's like Kaepernick and Wilson and Dalton. Hes got it made. 2-3 years of drafting in the top 10 and things can turn around.

How do you feel about this year's draft? Do you think Caldwell is making the right moves so far?

[RGMCSE]

How do you feel about this year's draft? Do you think Caldwell is making the right moves so far?

That's a great question and too soon to tell. But I do like some of his picks. To name a few; 3rd rounder Dwayne Gratz is a big physical corner that fits right in play with Gus Bradley's type of secondary. Luke Joeckel even as bad as he looked yesterday I think that was just a rookie getting his ass whipped by a young athletic DE in his first NFL game. Usually big time tackles pan to be at least decent starters. Joeckel was a no brainer. Denard Robinson / Ace Sanders. Both of these guys have the game changing speed and unique skill sets that set a team apart. Ace Sanders is already starting due to Blackmon being suspended. Ace will shine once Blackmon and Cecil Shorts III are back on the field together. The other will have to wait and see.

The thing that has impressed me so far with David Caldwell has been more to do with his approach to gutting and rebuilding this team that lacks talent in all facets. He made all the right cuts. Got rid of the dead wait and replaced them with young athletic players that have started for other teams and signed them to 1-2 year conracts. These are players that have mid level talent that are looking to make a home and grab that second contract. In other words these are players that are hungry to make a name and be compe ive. For example Roy Miller DT from Tampa and Geno Hayes LB from Chicago and Will Blackmon CB from Seattle etc.

The one thing that bothers me about him so far is the fact that he didn't really address the QB position. But as a fan that hasn't been able to feel good about the QB position in years it may just be that I'm beyond impatient. He brought in Matt Scott UFA from Arizona. He has some mobility and a strong NFL arm. But he's so young and raw but he made the practice squad. Other than that he pretty much stayed pat at the QB position. I was hoping we would have made a play for Alex Smith as a game manager. But then again that's my impatience talking. Hopefully the plan is to draft a franchise QB with the first pick and then draft another development QB in the later rounds. One things for sure, Gabbert will not be the QB next year.

[Blake]

One things for sure, Gabbert will not be the QB next year.

Then they should have used Tebow this year

[Chinook]

So quarterback over Clowney in your opinion if the Jags get the first pick?

[spurraider21]

I will answer this for you because you don't seem like a parroting troll got cuck. Denver was the lightning in a bottle team for Tebow. He had a legit top defense keeping him in games til the end only for the opposition to finally break down defensively and Tebow got some lucky breaks. There is no denying that Tebow had some running skill but the read option was not a offense that every team was preparing for on a consistent basis. It was a nitch at the time somewhat ala the Wildcat offense when the Dolphins broke that out.

The year Tebow was drafted the Jaguars were picking 10th. Now the Jags have made some really ing dumb picks in the past Matt Jones - RJ Soward - Reggie Williams to name a few, the Jags were trying to replace the void left at DT when Stroud and Henderson left the team and ended up drafting Tyson AluAlu. Most notably at the time David Garrard was definitely the Jags QB. Garrard had just finished 2 straight decent years at the QB spot. The last thing the Jags were going to do was spend the 10th pick on a project qb.

Once the jags bought the koolaid on Gabbert they were stuck with giving him the job and the chance to make something out of it. I dont care who your team is or what the situation is but a team that trades up in the top ten to draft there supposed franchise QB must give him the appropriate amount of time to sink or swim. What alot of the idiot s dont understand is that this is Gabberts 3rd year and he's 23 years old. If he'd stayed in school like Andre Luck did he would be in his 1-2 year. It's not as if he's in his 4th-5th year and the Jags haven't moved on. Show me a team that gave up on a top ten QB after 2 years??

Currently the New Jags GM David Caldwell is not going to sign a circus joke QB named tebow to appease the idiots solely because he's from the Jacksonville area. The GM is going to let the mistakes happen with the previous GM's picks and ride the train to draft his own Franchise QB. He's not going to waste time on a ing gimmick. He's not going to draft a ty qb in the fourth round to later cut him or draft a ing punter in the 3rd round and pass up QB's like Kaepernick and Wilson and Dalton. Hes got it made. 2-3 years of drafting in the top 10 and things can turn around.

there seems to be this myth that the 2011 denver broncos defense was rivaling the '85 bears or something. they were 24th in the NFL in scoring defense that season, and 20th in the NFL in total defense (yardage allowed). they only had 9 interceptions that year (tied for second least in the league) and their 10 fumbles forced was tied for 26th in the league. how that qualifies as "legit top defense" is absolutely beyond me.

i'm not suggesting they roll with Tebow as a long term solution, but seriously, why waste another year on Gabbert? if you are going to waste a year and dig for a franchise qb in next years draft, its better to waste a year with tebowmania than with freakin gabbert. same reason the raiders rolled with pryor instead of flynn

[RGMCSE]

there seems to be this myth that the 2011 denver broncos defense was rivaling the '85 bears or something. they were 24th in the NFL in scoring defense that season, and 20th in the NFL in total defense (yardage allowed). they only had 9 interceptions that year (tied for second least in the league) and their 10 fumbles forced was tied for 26th in the league. how that qualifies as "legit top defense" is absolutely beyond me.

i'm not suggesting they roll with Tebow as a long term solution, but seriously, why waste another year on Gabbert? if you are going to waste a year and dig for a franchise qb in next years draft, its better to waste a year with tebowmania than with freakin gabbert. same reason the raiders rolled with pryor instead of flynn

Ok fine, I didnt look at the numbers. All I can say is that the games that I paid attention to during that Tebowmania run, the defense was more than solid. A bulk of those wins that supposedly were because of Tebow as far as I remember were low scoring games. The defense was most definitely a factor. As for rolling with Tebow instead of Gabbert honestly I think that logic is asinine. Gabbert at least is our trash of a Qb. He knows our system and we drafted him. Let the kid at least finish being horrible and then move on. Gabbert has been preparing and practicing as the starter for three years. Tebow has been bouncing around and not playing jack squat. Seriously his glory days are over. Contrary to what most of the outsiders and national bias believes or as bad as they want it to be true, Jaguars fans do not want Tebow to be the QB. Only the idiot Gator homers want that. Those Gator fans don't put their money where there mouth is. There are a lot of them that talk a hot mess but don't go to the games and support the NFL in general. Those 60000 fans you see in the stadium to see a horrible team every week are not there to see Tebow. I just can't understand how some of you cant put two and two together. The fans that go to the games want a legitimate QB and team. Not the old ball coach spurrier and any of the umpteen horrible Florida QB's. There's is absolutely no purpose for getting Tebow in Jacksonville now. The team is selling tickets without the hype and as soon as the Jags finish 0-16 or 2-14 this year the Jag fans will be raving and frothing at the mouth to see their next franchise QB. Not some bum named Tebow.

[RGMCSE]

So quarterback over Clowney in your opinion if the Jags get the first pick?

Clowney would be a nice consolation prize. But not in this draft. A franchise QB always comes first. Tell me, what do you guys think about Teddy Bridgewater or Murray or Boyd?

[spurraider21]

Ok fine, I didnt look at the numbers. All I can say is that the games that I paid attention to during that Tebowmania run, the defense was more than solid. A bulk of those wins that supposedly were because of Tebow as far as I remember were low scoring games. The defense was most definitely a factor. As for rolling with Tebow instead of Gabbert honestly I think that logic is asinine. Gabbert at least is our trash of a Qb. He knows our system and we drafted him. Let the kid at least finish being horrible and then move on. Gabbert has been preparing and practicing as the starter for three years. Tebow has been bouncing around and not playing jack squat. Seriously his glory days are over. Contrary to what most of the outsiders and national bias believes or as bad as they want it to be true, Jaguars fans do not want Tebow to be the QB. Only the idiot Gator homers want that. Those Gator fans don't put their money where there mouth is. There are a lot of them that talk a hot mess but don't go to the games and support the NFL in general. Those 60000 fans you see in the stadium to see a horrible team every week are not there to see Tebow. I just can't understand how some of you cant put two and two together. The fans that go to the games want a legitimate QB and team. Not the old ball coach spurrier and any of the umpteen horrible Florida QB's. There's is absolutely no purpose for getting Tebow in Jacksonville now. The team is selling tickets without the hype and as soon as the Jags finish 0-16 or 2-14 this year the Jag fans will be raving and frothing at the mouth to see their next franchise QB. Not some bum named Tebow.

i think tebow improves their likelihood of winning games compared to gabbert. a team struggling to sell tickets could also benefit from a guy like tebow.

[Chinook]

Clowney would be a nice consolation prize. But not in this draft. A franchise QB always comes first. Tell me, what do you guys think about Teddy Bridgewater or Murray or Boyd?

I'm a terrible person to ask about that. I don't pay attention to college players until after the Super Bowl. I went to a 1-AA school that isn't allowed to even play in the FCS tournament.

But in general, I'm not a fan of the "franchise quarterback first" mentality. I think teams should really go for BPA in most cases. The Jags passed on some good players by trading up for Gabbert, including quarterbacks who were taken later. So I don't know. If one of those quarterbacks is truly BPA, yeah, go for it. But if Clowney is a once-in-a-lifetime talent like everyone says he is, it's hard to pass that up. It's much easier to get a serviceable quarterback than people think it is, and it's much harder to get a superstar lineman.

[RGMCSE]

i think tebow improves their likelihood of winning games compared to gabbert. a team struggling to sell tickets could also benefit from a guy like tebow.

Not to be rude, but I don't think you read my post. The Jaguars are not struggling to sell tickets. I know that the tarps give people the perception that the organization is struggling but its not the case. I know that there are pics of the stadium being empty in the 4th quarter of an embarrassing blow out loss but that doesn't mean that 60000 tickets were not sold to see two 2-14 teams. I mean if that's struggling then I cant wait for them to turn the corner. It's sad really because people like to clown on the fact that the stadium has tarps. When the team is good again the stadium will sell out and tarps will come off. The tarps were a necessity because of the economy crashing. Florida was hit hard, especially North Florida. People were not s ing out cash for football games when there $400000 homes value plummeted to $100000. The area has been in recovery mode since 06-07. The fact that the organization manages to sell 60000 tickets per game is amazing. 12 other teams in the NFL can't say that.

Believe me when I say Tebow doesnt matter. Besides, if the Jags are gonna suck they might as well tank ing good dammit. Why waste time with this tebow and trying to win meaningless games when we can draft a real duel threat like this:



Or this


or maybe this

[Clipper Nation]

i think tebow improves their likelihood of winning games compared to gabbert.

No, he doesn't.... Tebow's one of the worst quarterbacks ever and can't throw a football

[The Reckoning]

rofl jags

[RGMCSE]

I'm a terrible person to ask about that. I don't pay attention to college players until after the Super Bowl. I went to a 1-AA school that isn't allowed to even play in the FCS tournament.

But in general, I'm not a fan of the "franchise quarterback first" mentality. I think teams should really go for BPA in most cases. The Jags passed on some good players by trading up for Gabbert, including quarterbacks who were taken later. So I don't know. If one of those quarterbacks is truly BPA, yeah, go for it. But if Clowney is a once-in-a-lifetime talent like everyone says he is, it's hard to pass that up. It's much easier to get a serviceable quarterback than people think it is, and it's much harder to get a superstar lineman.

I hear you. But unfortunately my team has neglected the QB position for ing ever. Let me give you a little perspective: These are the Jag QB's drafted in the last ten years: Byron Leftwich, David Garrard and Blaine ing Gabbert. That is all. Let that sink in, it's true. So when you have a draft that possess several talented QB's in it. You pick one fast and another one for good measure. I wouldn't be mad if the Jags drafted 3 QB's in a row. QB's are too important. They can be the difference in a terrible team and a mediocre team and a good to great team. But if you don't pick one then forget it. That's the predicament the Jags have been in for years.

[Chinook]

Weird double post.

[Chinook]

I hear you. But unfortunately my team has neglected the QB position for ing ever. Let me give you a little perspective: These are the Jag QB's drafted in the last ten years: Byron Leftwich, David Garrard and Blaine ing Gabbert. That is all. Let that sink in, it's true. So when you have a draft that possess several talented QB's in it. You pick one fast and another one for good measure. I wouldn't be mad if the Jags drafted 3 QB's in a row. QB's are too important. They can be the difference in a terrible team and a mediocre team and a good to great team. But if you don't pick one then forget it. That's the predicament the Jags have been in for years.

Over the same time, the Ravens drafted Kyle Boller Josh Harris, Derek Anderson, Troy Smith, Joe Flacco and Tyrod Taylor. No one on that list besides Flacco is better than Leftwich or Garrard. Only Boller and Flacco were higher than fifth-rounders. So I don't think there's too big of a difference there.

The Ravens had your mentality during the 2003 draft. Ozzie tried to trade up for Leftwich, but the Jaguars blocked the line. He ended up "settling" for Suggs. Then, he traded his second-rounder that year and his first next year to New England to move up for Boller. In doing so, he passed on Anquan Boldin (whom he said he would have drafted had he kept the pick) and Vince Wilfork (whom the Patriots took with the Ravens' pick). They could have taken Schaub with their second-rounder like people speculated they would have.

I agree that it's important to get a good quarterback. But that doesn't mean that drafting a quarterback needs to always be a top priority. Seven of the 12 teams in the playoffs last season did not have first-round quarterbacks (that they drafted) starting (although Joe Webb should not really count).

[spurraider21]

No, he doesn't.... Tebow's one of the worst quarterbacks ever and can't throw a football

i'm not a fan of tebow as a franchise qb, but he only had 1 season (well 3/4 of one) where he took the reigns of a team, and the results were solid to say the least

your ing chargers could use him as a 4th quarter qb tbh

[Holden_Caulfield]

gabbert is injured. not playing in week 2. lol henne

[spurraider21]

gabbert is injured. not playing in week 2. lol henne

henne gives a bumb to MJD in fantasy leagues

[symple19]

Baguar fan writing books up in here. Nobody is going to read that , got.

Meanwhile, TARPS

[RGMCSE]

Baguar fan writing books up in here. Nobody is going to read that , got.

Meanwhile, TARPS

Reading is hard huh? You need some reading rainbow or hooked on phonics. People read it. Your the fool who doesn't have the attention span or reading comprehension to ad to the topic.

[symple19]

Reading is hard huh? You need some reading rainbow or hooked on phonics. People read it. Your the fool who doesn't have the attention span or reading comprehension to ad to the topic.

[symple19]

Reading is hard huh? You need some reading rainbow or hooked on phonics. People read it. Your the fool who doesn't have the attention span or reading comprehension to ad to the topic.

Yes. Reading your drivel is hard. Not only is the content bad, but your inability to spell properly makes it even worse

In other news...Tarps

[RGMCSE]

So don't read it, you ing . You act as if the 49ers never had tough times. They sucked till Montana and Walsh came along. Here's to you losing another Super Bowl.

[Holden_Caulfield]

we are gonna trash the raidazz just you watch. we wont go winless lol

[Blake]

Here's to you losing another Super Bowl.

Here's to lol Henne