Heat: LeBron is the next T-Mac

[Clipper Nation]

Btw, it's hilarious how asspained GNSF get over athletic players who can dunk.... "Monkeyball! All they can do is dunk! Not classy!" (unless a Spurs player dunks, then suddenly it's the greatest thing ever )

It's especially funny since every season, they end up whining that "Pop needs to get some athletes on this team" while they watch Bonner toss up soft bricks

The dunk is the most efficient shot in basketball, and as modern medicine improves and players' athleticism lasts longer, the old trope of players becoming "injury prone and useless once their athleticism goes away" is looking more and more outdated.... I mean, even a TOSB like Kirby is still dunking at his age

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

No, you just suck massive when it comes to forming a comprehensible thought, as evidenced by the posters in this thread taking your ty argument in the same context, and then you twist your initial words.

No, YOU just suck massive at reading. You formed a hypothesis off of claims that were not reprehensible in the thread I created. You continue to call my argument " ty" - which is plausible considering my thread was not meant to be argumenitive, it is just a hypothesis and nothing more.

I never once stated that Carter, McGrady, or anyone's games were focused around dunks. That was an assessment that YOU made. So in hindsight, you are basically arguing a fact that I never stated, meaning that you are nullifying your own argument.

You attempt to state that only one of them are washed up and have been injury plagued, but that is incorrect as well. Carter is a s of his former self and has been for some while now due to the consistent injuries he has gotten on both his knees and ankles. In case you haven't noticed (you probably haven't considering your takes), after the 05-06 season, Carter changed his game completely and really dosen't even dunk that often at all.

Your argument here is because you are misquoting me, and attempting to validate your own argument with misused facts. I never stated McGrady has a inconsistent midrange game, and I guarantee you cannot find where I said such. It's not like my hypothesis is far fetched either. I provided a logisitic point of view, stating that via ESPN it showed LeBron shot 39% from 15-25 feet from the basket. That is NOT a consistent jumpshot.

It is interesting, however, how you again misquote me and state that I say McGrady has an inconsistent jumpshot. Yet the quote of mine you bold, I am talking about LeBron. Another misread (you need to go back to Pre-K, bro). My thesis on LeBron correlating to McGrady is based solely off injury. The outcome of LeBron will be that of McGrady (with unfufilled potential left on the court).

Another hypocritical statement you make is stating I cherry pick my stats, yet you cherry pick your status to debunk mine. It's not cherry-picking, as 15-25 foot is the average midrange jumpshot, and 39% if pretty ty if you ask me. Here's a lesson with debating, Leetonidas, if a statistic disproves your statement, that doesn't mean cherry-picking is occurring.

So, again...

Lebron shoots inconsistent from mid and long range: true
T-Mac and Carter were inconsistent shooters: never said, you assumed and keep assuming I said such with no proof whatsoever.
T-Mac is washed up due to relying on dunks: Never said that again, dumbass (being washed up OR relying on dunks)
Carter hasn't adjusted his game: Where did I say such? I actually stated the opposite, smart one.
LeBron will be the next T-Mac because he relies on dunks = true
People who rely on inside shots blah blah blah: what the dude? now you're bringing inside shots into the equation?

You are desperate with your opinions and you are reaching to far-fetched conclusions to attempt to counter mine. This has resulted in you misquoting me many times, putting words into my mouth, and basing your opinions on stuff that I have never said.

One would assume you need to learn how to READ, like I've stated many times. However, considering you have yet to actually read (clearly), I'd say you may just have dyslexia or some type of academic illness that prevents you from reading at a third grade level. So this is what I'm going to do. Your next response, if it has ANYTHING that I did not directly state, I'm going to ask you to quote where I said such. If you cannot do so, I will just ignore your post because baseless assumptions, as you should but probably don't know, does not win debates.

Sorry bro, you have to try a bit harder and actually use factual information.

By the by, Parker is considered injury prone by many fans in this day. Calling my argument re ed is plausible because you have yet to counter anything I have said.

LEETONIDAS LOGIC: IF LEBRON DIDNT GET INJURED PREVIOUS TO WHEN T-MAC DID, THAT MEANS IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HAPPEN. Get off his . I'm the scared dog, yet you had to resort to a wall of text saying basically nothing, sounding redundant and re ed as because you continue to misquote and say I'm arguing things that I am not.

LeBron may have hit jumpers in game 7, but he didn't hit ANY in game 1-6. What does that tell you?

Try again.

[Leetonidas]

lol denial of your own ty thought process

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Btw, it's hilarious how asspained GNSF get over athletic players who can dunk.... "Monkeyball! All they can do is dunk! Not classy!" (unless a Spurs player dunks, then suddenly it's the greatest thing ever )

It's especially funny since every season, they end up whining that "Pop needs to get some athletes on this team" while they watch Bonner toss up soft bricks

The dunk is the most efficient shot in basketball, and as modern medicine improves and players' athleticism lasts longer, the old trope of players becoming "injury prone and useless once their athleticism goes away" is looking more and more outdated.... I mean, even a TOSB like Kirby is still dunking at his age

Hey, you're back! I thought I ran you off this forum crying to your mom from my post last night. It's cute how you come back when you have a little bit of help (even though he's a dumbass). What are you a cheerleader? Just like the Chargers and Clips, looks like your on the short end of the stick in this again too.

It's no surprise you're up LeBron's ass for dunking (being a fan of LAWB CITTTTY YOOO BUT I CANT GET PAST ROUND 2).

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

lol denial of your own ty thought process

lol denial of your own debating skills which is why you have to make up points to try to make an argument. and you still blow at it.

[Leetonidas]

And if McGrady and Carter's game aren't focused around dunks and that's not why they declined yet you're still trying to make the comparison between them and LeBron...well, you're an idiot. Nuff said tbh

[Clipper Nation]

Meltdown

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Btw, it's hilarious how asspained GNSF get over athletic players who can dunk.... "Monkeyball! All they can do is dunk! Not classy!" (unless a Spurs player dunks, then suddenly it's the greatest thing ever )

It's especially funny since every season, they end up whining that "Pop needs to get some athletes on this team" while they watch Bonner toss up soft bricks

The dunk is the most efficient shot in basketball, and as modern medicine improves and players' athleticism lasts longer, the old trope of players becoming "injury prone and useless once their athleticism goes away" is looking more and more outdated.... I mean, even a TOSB like Kirby is still dunking at his age

Also, gnsf >>>>> Clippers fan of any sort. Tell me, why are you on a Spurs forum anyways? Tired of talking about losing on the Clips forum?

CN: WE CANT WIN A PLAYOFF SERIES, BUT DAMN DID YOU SEE THAT DUNK JORDAN DID ON KNIGHT. OOOOOOH SHIIIIIT. WE STACKEDDDD.
please, you won't even finish with the best record in LA.

[Leetonidas]

lol denial of your own debating skills which is why you have to make up points to try to make an argument. and you still blow at it.

Nobody agrees with you

[Leetonidas]

This guy does a good job of talking nonsense and bringing up things that have nothing to do with his topic

" when are you even on a Spurs forum Clipperfan you have no life "

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

And if McGrady and Carter's game aren't focused around dunks and that's not why they declined yet you're still trying to make the comparison between them and LeBron...well, you're an idiot. Nuff said tbh

Okay, I'm going to type this in small words to attempt to make this clear to you, okay? Since you can't read "big words".

I_am_comparing (means looking at each player)_McGrady_to_LeBron_because_I_believe (means I think this will happen)_LeBron_will_not_live_up_to_his_full_potent ial (means be as good as he is supposed to be)_due_to_not_having_a_consistent_midrange_game_a nd_focusing_on_hard_dunk_through_his_first_nineish _years_in_the_league.

can yew understandz nao?

[Clipper Nation]

Re ed GNSF: "LBRON IZ DUH NU T-MAK!!!!"

Me: "That's a re ed take...." *gives proof of why you're wrong*

Re ed GNSF: "LOL CLIPURZ SUK"

And he actually claims he's good at debating

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Nobody agrees with you

Logic: Because not everyone agrees with you means that you're wrong.

Sorry, bro. Not a popularity contest.

Lee's logic: If I post a long wall of text that has misused quotes and non-factual information, everyone will be impressed by me.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Re ed GNSF: "LBRON IZ DUH NU T-MAK!!!!"

Me: "That's a re ed take...." *gives proof of why you're wrong*

Re ed GNSF: "LOL CLIPURZ SUK"

And he actually claims he's good at debating

More like:

Re ed Clippers fan: LEBRON GOT A BIG N IZ GR9
Me: No, he's inconsistent at midrange
Re ed Clippers fan: PROOVE IT H8R
Me: 39% via ESPN from midrange shots 15-25 feet
Re ed Clippers fan: NO HEZ GR8 N NO1 CAN TOUCH HIM. LOB CITY YO, CANT GET PAST 1ST ROUND, I TYPE WIF A PENCIL.

gnsf > Clippers fan in general

[Leetonidas]

Okay, I'm going to type this in small words to attempt to make this clear to you, okay? Since you can't read "big words".

I_am_comparing (means looking at each player)_McGrady_to_LeBron_because_I_believe (means I think this will happen)_LeBron_will_not_live_up_to_his_full_potent ial (means be as good as he is supposed to be)_due_to_not_having_a_consistent_midrange_game_a nd_focusing_on_hard_dunk_through_his_first_nineish _years_in_the_league.

can yew understandz nao?

Holy you're stupid. First you claim he is going to become injured and washed up and now you're claiming he's not going to live up to his potential (which is hilarious considering he's a 4 time MVP with 2 Finals MVPS and 2 rings ) because he doesn't have a consistent midrange game (something most players don't have) even though you included longrange before and were proven wrong because total jumpshot percentage is 53% (pretty consistent). This makes even less sense considering McGrady had a good midrange and three point shot and still became injury prone and washed up. Keep forcing that foot in your mouth dumbass

but he shot 39% on midrange ESPN said so! that's all that matters when evaluating a players future abilities!

As if every star in the NBA history had some Jordan-esque midrange game. You've been ass pounded in this thread, quit trying to back track and spew your re ed bull because you look dumber and dumber by the post

[Clipper Nation]

Okay, I'm going to type this in small words to attempt to make this clear to you, okay? Since you can't read "big words".

I_am_comparing (means looking at each player)_McGrady_to_LeBron_because_I_believe (means I think this will happen)_LeBron_will_not_live_up_to_his_full_potent ial (means be as good as he is supposed to be)_due_to_not_having_a_consistent_midrange_game_a nd_focusing_on_hard_dunk_through_his_first_nineish _years_in_the_league.

can yew understandz nao?

It doesn't matter how you type it, it's a terrible take.... it makes absolutely no sense at all to compare LeBron to T-Mac as proof that "LeBron will dunk his way to being injury-prone"....

Firstly, T-Mac's style of play was different than LeBron's, so your example contradicts your point that dunking and playing around the rim will end LeBron's career....

Secondly, LeBron has a more well-rounded game than you're giving him credit for (mainly because you're butthurt over losing to him)....

Thirdly, LeBron has no major injury history and has been proven to be a durable player, whereas T-Mac was always somewhat injury-prone....

Overall, your argument just doesn't make sense.... even you realize you can't really defend it, which is why you'll respond to this with yet another unoriginal variation of "LOL CLIPURZ SUK" instead of actually defending your points....

[Leetonidas]

LeBron's going to be scrub because he isn't elite at the most inefficient shot in basketball that most coaches don't encourage

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Holy you're stupid. First you claim he is going to become injured and washed up and now you're claiming he's not going to live up to his potential (which is hilarious considering he's a 4 time MVP with 2 Finals MVPS and 2 rings ) because he doesn't have a consistent midrange game (something most players don't have) even though you included longrange before and were proven wrong because total jumpshot percentage is 53% (pretty consistent). This makes even less sense considering McGrady had a good midrange and three point shot and still became injury prone and washed up. Keep forcing that foot in your mouth dumbass

but he shot 39% on midrange ESPN said so! that's all that matters when evaluating a players future abilities!

As if every star in the NBA history had some Jordan-esque midrange game. You've been ass pounded in this thread, quit trying to back track and spew your re ed bull because you look dumber and dumber by the post

Look bro, if you had any critical thinking you would be able to put two and two together. Perhaps he won't live up to his potential because he will end up like T-Mac. Never thought of that, no? You need to expand your mind.

39% midrange shows inconsistency. PERIOD. That should be put into account considering this is his "PRIME YEARS".

Does every NBA player need a midrange game compared to Jordan's? No. But when being compared to be the next Jordan? Yeah, I'd say he needs to be consistent with his midrange.

You've been pounded in every thread you argue in. I follow these forums and follow you well, so it's to no shock that when I saw your name quoting me originally I knew I'd get a ing stupid response from someone who cannot come up with his own points, so he has to misquote me to ATTEMPT (and fail might I add) at countering such.

Go jerk off to your signature photos. It's probably the only time you can even imagine at getting any poo-tang.

[Leetonidas]

Misquote? I posted your exact words.

The main issue is your opinion is completely unfounded and there is literally no evidence to support your position. When you actually have some evidence that LeBron is going to become injured and washed up because he shoots 39% from 15-25 feet, come let us know. Until then, let the big boys talk and go play outside.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

It doesn't matter how you type it, it's a terrible take.... it makes absolutely no sense at all to compare LeBron to T-Mac as proof that "LeBron will dunk his way to being injury-prone"....

Firstly, T-Mac's style of play was different than LeBron's, so your example contradicts your point that dunking and playing around the rim will end LeBron's career....

Secondly, LeBron has a more well-rounded game than you're giving him credit for (mainly because you're butthurt over losing to him)....

Thirdly, LeBron has no major injury history and has been proven to be a durable player, whereas T-Mac was always somewhat injury-prone....

Overall, your argument just doesn't make sense.... even you realize you can't really defend it, which is why you'll respond to this with yet another unoriginal variation of "LOL CLIPURZ SUK" instead of actually defending your points....

1) LeBrons style of play from his rookie year and first few years compared to T-Mac's first years in the league are very similar. LeBron is now starting to take more jumpshots, but it is still similar to McGrady with less chucking.

2) He is well-rounded. He can pass, rebound, score, but he cannot shoot midrange shots consistently or long shots consistently.

3) McGrady never had an extensive injury list prior to his injuries either. This may come to a surprise to you.. but you don't have to have a history to become injury prone.

Kind of ironic though how you say I'm just repeating "Clippers suck" (which they do), yet you are the one continuing to state "gnsf" because that's the only back-up you have. Not to mention you continuously ignore my "39%" statement.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Misquote? I posted your exact words.

While stating that I said certain things that I never stated.

[spurraider21]

Didn't LeBron just win back to back Finals MVP's?

[RsxPiimp]

lol I already said that I dislike LeBron but respect his game, gtfo with that . Besides, if he was god he wouldn't exist

wat a dumb

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I don't know why LeBron fans are taking this so personal. I think people forget how good Tracy McGrady was back in the day. People proclaimed he was going to be the best of all time.

[Leetonidas]

While stating that I said certain things that I never stated.

It's obvious you've never attended college because if you had you would've had to take logic and implication, something you obviously know nothing about.