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    While what dirk did in 2011 was simply phenomenal, what he did in 2006 and 2007 was not. And 2011 was a perfect team that hides dirks weaknesses ( interior defense with chandler, using a motion offense and great spacing to compensate for dirks lack of interior offense). Shaq, Duncan, MJ didn't need those covers and we're much easier to build around.
    Dirk carried a load of sorry s into the NBA finals in 06 and got the best regular season record of the whole league the next season with the same re ed teammates, I think that was what the prime Kobe couldn't do. MJ belongs to a class of his own, and the likes of Duncan and Magic the class right next career-wise, but I don't think there's much difference to tell between Dirk and Kobe, or any player of similar caliber, in terms of greatness.

    I agree Dirk had the right support in 11 which was why they won, but it's not like other legends like MJ and Duncan could win championships on their own. MJ was a poor 3pt shooter but the bulls made up for it with Steve Kerr and kuko, and your Duncan also needed not one, but two superstars playing alongside him in order for him to ring. 11' Duncan was just as great as the prime one but he was basically fighting by himself with an injured parker and an ass-sucking manu, which was why they lost.

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    Dirk carried a load of sorry s into the NBA finals in 06 and got the best regular season record of the whole league the next season with the same re ed teammates, I think that was what the prime Kobe couldn't do. MJ belongs to a class of his own, and the likes of Duncan and Magic the class right next career-wise, but I don't think there's much difference to tell between Dirk and Kobe, or any player of similar caliber, in terms of greatness.

    I agree Dirk had the right support in 11 which was why they won, but it's not like other legends like MJ and Duncan could win championships on their own. MJ was a poor 3pt shooter but the bulls made up for it with Steve Kerr and kuko, and your Duncan also needed not one, but two superstars playing alongside him in order for him to ring. 11' Duncan was just as great as the prime one but he was basically fighting by himself with an injured parker and an ass-sucking manu, which was why they lost.
    Please don't compare Kobe to the group. There are many things Kobe can't do. Lets say this, dirk and Kobe are closer than Kobe and shaq/duncan

    As for Jordan, his inability in 3s were largely exaggerated. Sure he wasn't that good during the earlier days, but the league wasn't heavy on using 3s back then anyways. By the time the rockets offense changed the league, Jordan was a decent 3 pt shooter.

    Duncan in 2003 had no superstars beside him, his best teammate tha year was either a Robinson on his last legs or a before his prime Stephen Jackson. 13 Duncan is as far behind 03 Duncan as Kobe is behind Jordan. The difference is huge.

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