Is there a Bible/ New Testament expert in the house?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He is not sharing because he is talking out of his ass. Either he is trolling or he is earnest in meeting every criteria for an axis 2 disorder. It is what it is.

[Skull-1]

At this point, I am pretty sure skull won't share what he knows.
That is ok.
Not everyone is willing to share what they know in forums like this.
It just sets them up for ridicule.
And that is more than some are willing to bear, or bare, no pun intended.
Anyway, glad I was able to share what I've learned over the years, for what it is worth.
Hope it helps.

I have been sharing since this started.....and I am not under obligation to establish credentials the world holds dear but are worthless to God. Truth is truth. Usually God picks people of no reputation, so why I got sucked into this I do not know (other than I am not famous, of course).

(And I am fully aware I am being trolled from multiple angles.)

Truth is truth. People with credentials out their asses don't have the command of scripture that I do. The Pharises had plenty of credentials and we see how much use they were to them.

I will give you a mystery, the key to which I have provided. Answer the meaning of this riddle and we will proceed.

If we have sown to you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things? - 1 Cor 9:11

Read the passage and explain it.

Fizzylimpnuts can't, but I can.

[mouse]

I hear ya. I saw your post on that elsewhere. Pretty funny stuff. It must have been Blake #47.

______^ Gets it...

[xmas1997]

I have been sharing since this started.....and I am not under obligation to establish credentials the world holds dear but are worthless to God. Truth is truth. Usually God picks people of no reputation, so why I got sucked into this I do not know (other than I am not famous, of course).

(And I am fully aware I am being trolled from multiple angles.)

Truth is truth. People with credentials out their asses don't have the command of scripture that I do. The Pharises had plenty of credentials and we see how much use they were to them.

I will give you a mystery, the key to which I have provided. Answer the meaning of this riddle and we will proceed.

If we have sown to you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things? - 1 Cor 9:11

Read the passage and explain it.

Fizzylimpnuts can't, but I can.

You make a mistake if you think I was trolling you.
I was being sincere with you.
All I wanted was to share knowledge and experiences.
I'm sorry if you think I was trolling you.

[Skull-1]

You make a mistake if you think I was trolling you.
I was being sincere with you.
All I wanted was to share knowledge and experiences.
I'm sorry if you think I was trolling you.

Answer the riddle.

[xmas1997]

Answer the riddle.

No, you think me a troll.
And riddles are games.
Why should I humor you?
I gave of my knowledge and experiences freely, without riddles, games, or anything in the spirit of good will.
Can you not do the same for me?
Ok, I give up, what do you mean?

[Skull-1]

Explain the verse.


Amyone?

[xmas1997]

Explain the verse.


Amyone?

No one knows.
So now will you be so kind as to share your knowledge and experiences on this topic?
Seriously, no one wants to play these cat and mouse games with you. Most of us just want to share what we know and believe.
If you do not want to share yours, then why are you here?

[Th'Pusher]

I have supported everything I have said.

You really have not supported anything you've said. You've repeatedly claimed you're right and you know you're right and if people can't understand it's because they're not on your level of understanding...that they're living in the flesh, while you're on a higher spiritual plane.

That may work for people who want to believe in your premise, but anyone seeking actual truth and understanding would be highly disappointed with your performance in this tread.

[xmas1997]

Ok, I'll take a stab at it in the spirit of cooperation and sincerity.
It means that since we were given deeper truths of the spiritual, then why are we still concerned with the earthly things that consume most of our efforts?
There.
That is my guess.
Please, no more riddles.

[Skull-1]

You really have not supported anything you've said. You've repeatedly claimed you're right and you know you're right and if people can't understand it's because they're not on your level of understanding...that they're living in the flesh, while you're on a higher spiritual plane.

That may work for people who want to believe in your premise, but anyone seeking actual truth and understanding would be highly disappointed with your performance in this tread.

What thread are you reading, dummy? I have supported every word with scripture. You're just not able to see what is plainly before you.


Show me a lack of support for my assertions. You can't. You won't. You will throw out a previously refuted straw man based on your carnal tradition, I will destroy it, you will call me a liar, and the cycle will repeat....

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fizzylimpnuts can't, but I can.

I'm in your room, Raleigh.

For someone that claims to so many things you never ever seem to do any of them. All you do is bluster.

[Skull-1]

Ok, I'll take a stab at it in the spirit of cooperation and sincerity.
It means that since we were given deeper truths of the spiritual, then why are we still concerned with the earthly things that consume most of our efforts?
There.
That is my guess.
Please, no more riddles.

Incorrect.

I have provided all the pieces of this puzzle....


Come on geniuses. What does it mean? Ask your pastor. He will have no clue. Likely he will link it to hes. But he won't come close.


Sowing and reaping. Spiritual and carnal. Earthly and heavenly.

There is a parable in the Gospels that applies.

[Skull-1]

I'm in your room, Raleigh.

For someone that claims to so many things you never ever seem to do any of them. All you do is bluster.

I lay out the the principles. You just talk about an axis you do not even understand in your high minded, utterly failed insult attempt.... Glad someone put you out of your misery. I finally hinted at it when my laughter at your stupidity could no longer contain itself.

[xmas1997]

Incorrect.

I have provided all the pieces of this puzzle....


Come on geniuses. What does it mean? Ask your pastor. He will have no clue. Likely he will link it to hes. But he won't come close.


Sowing and reaping. Spiritual and carnal. Earthly and heavenly.

There is a parable in the Gospels that applies.

Well, I gave it stab is all.
Now, can you try to be specific and detailed as to what you are trying to say?

[Skull-1]

Well, I gave it stab is all.
Now, can you try to be specific and detailed as to what you are trying to say?

Yes, you did. Think it over for a day or two and see if your answer changes.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I lay out the the principles. You just talk about an axis you do not even understand in your high minded, utterly failed insult attempt.... Glad someone put you out of your misery. I finally hinted at it when my laughter at your stupidity could no longer contain itself.

More attempts to belittle me and still no doing that which you claim. It's transparent.

[xmas1997]

Skull, this is a discussion.
Do you not want to discuss?
Why are you here if you just want to play cat and mouse?
Do you not want to share?
If so then just say so and quit beating around the bush.
What are you afraid of? Ridicule? Seems to me you have already received plenty of that so what does it matter now?
If you have something relevant to say or to add, then by all means do so.
Otherwise, why even be in this discussion if you are not going to discuss your views.
Sure, it is risky, but everyone can learn a little something.
And just because someone does not agree with your opinions is no reason not to still reveal them.
That is why they are opinions.
You said if someone answered you would proceed, but instead you are being evasive.
If you really and truly have something to add and say, then please do so.
Could it be that you really have nothing pertinent to say, because if so, you doing a damn good job of not really explaining anything.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and you put me off.
How is that Christ like? He never evaded a question and He explained things in many different ways because people had a hard time understanding what He was saying.
Why is that so hard for you to do? Do you have nothing to say except ridicule?
If you do, then you have been invited to say it numerous times now, but instead you give a riddle, and then say the answer is wrong, but refuse to explain why it is wrong, or even what is right.
Discuss, please. Unless you have nothing to discuss.

[Th'Pusher]

What thread are you reading, dummy? I have supported every word with scripture. You're just not able to see what is plainly before you.


Show me a lack of support for my assertions. You can't. You won't. You will throw out a previously refuted straw man based on your carnal tradition, I will destroy it, you will call me a liar, and the cycle will repeat....

I'm reading this tread, and from and unbiased observers position you're logic has been thoroughly dismantled. You've not been able to refute any point. You simply revert to faith based rabble while pretending you're the smartest guy in the room. You had no rebuttal to Fuzzy regarding the consistency of the text post-Constantinople which was, and still is, the foundation of your argument.

[Skull-1]

I'm reading this tread, and from and unbiased observers position you're logic has been thoroughly dismantled. You've not been able to refute any point. You simply revert to faith based rabble while pretending you're the smartest guy in the room. You had no rebuttal to Fuzzy regarding the consistency of the text post-Constantinople which was, and still is, the foundation of your argument.

Again, texts older than that period have INTERNAL inconsistencies that do not hold up to scrutiny.

Those older texts conflict with each other on many points yet at least one, if not the other, harmonizes with the BMT on EVERY point.


Game. Set. Match. BEYOTCH.

[xmas1997]

Well, I give up, skull.
You apparently either do not want to share, or have nothing to share.
Maybe fuzzy was right.
I tried to be open and forthcoming with you, but you put me off.
All that was asked for was a mature discussion among adults.
I won't bother you anymore because apparently just asking you questions was somehow offensive to you.
You should have seen your duty to help those who were seeking and aided them.
Instead you play riddle me this.
I'm sorry to say but I don't see any spirit of good will coming from you.
I tried. I see you doing your best to make confusion instead of bringing light to this discussion.
Good luck with that.

[Skull-1]

I want to give others a chance to try....

This isn't about you, Xmas

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I lay out the the principles. You just talk about an axis you do not even understand in your high minded, utterly failed insult attempt.... Glad someone put you out of your misery. I finally hinted at it when my laughter at your stupidity could no longer contain itself.

Put me out of my misery? More wind.

An axis disorder is just several different personality disorders grouped as defined by the DSM, the shrink handbook more or less. The disorders are just groupings of symptoms. I listed symptoms of the one that fits your bill, narcissistic personality disorder, and matched them with your behavior. They matched alarmingly. I have ran into others that behave very similar to how you do. There was a guy who posted here, pop tech, that acts just like you do if he is more organized. Your behavior sticks out like a sore thumb.

What is it that I do not understand?

You have laid out a set of assertions and done nothing to justify them. You really do not even do that much anymore you just posture as if you have when you really have laid nothing out but bluster.

Basically the principles that you have laid out are:

1) You are mistreated just like a litany of biblical martyrs and thus your hostility. turn that cheek indeed.
2) You understand scripture in a way that most everyone cannot.
3) Scripture, assumingly your interpretation of it, is immutable.

You sound like a cultist, tbh. You are claiming to be god's arbiter and interpreter. Everyone else is wrong, you are right blah blah blah. Oh and a bunch of lies about Saudi royals and whomever else you come up with. I am just waiting for you to start talking about how god talks directly to you.

If you are not trolling, you really need to go see shrink. You are not god's chosen one. There are not many treatments for people like you but at least try.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I want to give others a chance to try....

This isn't about you, Xmas

Of course not, because as with everything else, from your perspective everything is about you. Classic narcissist.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Again, texts older than that period have INTERNAL inconsistencies that do not hold up to scrutiny.

Those older texts conflict with each other on many points yet at least one, if not the other, harmonizes with the BMT on EVERY point.


Game. Set. Match. .

This is nonsense.

They are inconsistent but they are not....

If thy are different then some of them are going to to differ from Constantine's version. Just because one was chosen by Constantine does not mean that was the 'correct' one. It just means he chose one and ignored the rest.