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    This makes sense to my mind as I have always spoken about "seeing" something and how most humans cannot "see" due to their programming/conditioning/prejudices/likes/dislikes/fears/desires/beliefs


    yes...

    Truth/god/love/reality...


    Is "veiled" to most people and only a few will ever "see"

    Pretty self evident.


    Truth is truth wherever it appears from.
    And you are on the cusp of explaining the greater miracle....

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    And you are on the cusp of explaining the greater miracle....
    Skull, what is going to be your reward when you die?

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    Skull, what is going to be your reward when you die?
    Don't worry about it, bible expert. You know already with your obvious mastery of scripture. /sarcasm

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    None of that garbage is truth.
    It is all truth. Someday you might see. It seems as if you are not interested in it - so how could you get anywhere near it?

    Where did all your beliefs come from? Your opinions? Likes? Dislikes? Prejudices? Fears? Desires?

    Yup...


    All inherited. You were not born with them nor are they facts. They are inherited and mostly false ideas/conclusions/

    and you are saying none of this is truth?

    How can a rational, thoughtful, honest, sincere person deny this?

    You were born with all these things?

    No.

    Inherited. Temporary. Beliefs.

    In other words- there is a veil - over your eyes/senses/mind - that is affixed temporarily on you - and only you can decide you want to "see"

    Only you can take your own medicine and try to lift the blindfold.

    Self evident and irrefutable truth. Sad that even when gifted with this - you will stupidly deny it and return to what you know best - insults.

    5,4,3.....

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    Are you stupid?

    2 Cor 4:3 - If our gospel is veiled it is veiled to those who are perishing.


    And I already explained and quoted the veil being removed only in Christ. And being in Christ is not what tradition teaches.

    Mark 7:8 - "Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”



    You guys should pick a different debate topic because you are woefully inept regarding scripture.
    The very next verse:

    2 Corinthians 4:4

    *in whom the god of this age did blind the minds of the unbelieving, that there doth not shine forth to them the enlightening of the good news of the glory of the Christ, who is the image of God;
    The "god of this age" is lower case for a reason.

    But I'm sure you'll go narcissist again and claim "bad translation".

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    Don't worry about it, bible expert. You know already with your obvious mastery of scripture. /sarcasm
    I'm not worried about it, extra Bible expert. Why are you such a coward? I honestly don't understand why you can't answer.

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    Skull, I'd also like to see the Bible you undoubtedly put together that's free of bad translations. Thanks in advance.

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    The very next verse:



    The "god of this age" is lower case for a reason.

    But I'm sure you'll go narcissist again and claim "bad translation".

    Laughing.


    You have no idea what that means, either.

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    It is all truth. Someday you might see. It seems as if you are not interested in it - so how could you get anywhere near it?

    Where did all your beliefs come from? Your opinions? Likes? Dislikes? Prejudices? Fears? Desires?

    Yup...


    All inherited. You were not born with them nor are they facts. They are inherited and mostly false ideas/conclusions/

    and you are saying none of this is truth?

    How can a rational, thoughtful, honest, sincere person deny this?

    You were born with all these things?

    No.

    Inherited. Temporary. Beliefs.

    In other words- there is a veil - over your eyes/senses/mind - that is affixed temporarily on you - and only you can decide you want to "see"

    Only you can take your own medicine and try to lift the blindfold.

    Self evident and irrefutable truth. Sad that even when gifted with this - you will stupidly deny it and return to what you know best - insults.

    5,4,3.....
    Tldr. I'm sure it's the same regurgitated bull you bring every time.

    Two things that make it bull :

    1. It's not provable

    2. You run around this forum leaving miserable trails of in your wake. A truly enlightened person by your rules wouldn't be such a mentally and emotionally weak minded fool.

    Since you're clearly unenlightened, there is no reason to believe such enlightenment exists.

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    Tldr. I'm sure it's the same regurgitated bull you bring every time.

    Two things that make it bull :

    1. It's not provable

    2. You run around this forum leaving miserable trails of in your wake. A truly enlightened person wouldn't be such a mentally and emotionally weak minded fool.
    Go straighten your adulterous wife out, pal.

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    Go straighten your adulterous wife out, pal.
    Oh look! A personal attack!

    go get your perfectly translated Bible out and give us your opinion on the afterlife, bud.

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    Tldr. I'm sure it's the same regurgitated bull you bring every time.

    Two things that make it bull :

    1. It's not provable

    2. You run around this forum leaving miserable trails of in your wake. A truly enlightened person by your rules wouldn't be such a mentally and emotionally weak minded fool.

    ...and this folks is what the response is when given truth.


    Self evident and irrefutable truth.

    Proof?

    Why is proof needed when the truth is self evident.

    Were you (was anyone) BORN with their current brain/beliefs/level of sophistication?
    Anyone?

    No one was.

    What does this PROVE?

    That all we presently think - and all we presently believe - all we presently consist of - WAS INHERITED FROM SOMEWHERE.

    Self evident truth.

    So if you want to get back to a pristine state - to a clean slate - and a clear and truthful place - you need to lift the "veil" get rid of your programming/conditioning and learn to see again.

    But don't let me try to give you any helpful hints - I am a fool - lol.

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    Laughing.


    You have no idea what that means, either.
    it's satan. What do you think it means

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    30K a year will make anyone get back to the basics tbh

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    Blake why are you so worried about what happens when you die? You seem more interested in what happens when you die than any of us theists, are you not satisfied with the notion that nothing happens when you die? What do you want to happen when you die?

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    The irony in this thread seems to be going right over most peoples heads here IMHO.
    And that is: there are people here who have come to do nothing but mock and ridicule.
    Yet even they will profit from all of this as much as they try to deny it.
    There is much of the Truth here.
    And even though they have infertile soil, these Truths, these Seeds, will take root and grow within each of you, even the worst mocker and ridiculer here, they will grow and gain in wisdom and grace. It my not be tomorrow or the next day, but it has been planted. And then there will come a time when they have to resolve those things within with the things without. That will be the time of choice. Choose wisely. And laugh a little bit too when you do.

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    The irony in this thread seems to be going right over most peoples heads here IMHO.
    And that is: there are people here who have come to do nothing but mock and ridicule.
    Yet even they will profit from all of this as much as they try to deny it.
    There is much of the Truth here.
    And even though they have infertile soil, these Truths, these Seeds, will take root and grow within each of you, even the worst mocker and ridiculer here, they will grow and gain in wisdom and grace. It my not be tomorrow or the next day, but it has been planted. And then there will come a time when they have to resolve those things within with the things without. That will be the time of choice. Choose wisely. And laugh a little bit too when you do.
    Agreed 100%

    No one else can take your medicine for you either.

    It is you who have to walk out on that plank on your own. The truth has been staring us in the face forever....it is up to you to open your eyes and wake up.

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    The irony in this thread seems to be going right over most peoples heads here IMHO.
    And that is: there are people here who have come to do nothing but mock and ridicule.
    Yet even they will profit from all of this as much as they try to deny it.
    There is much of the Truth here.
    And even though they have infertile soil, these Truths, these Seeds, will take root and grow within each of you, even the worst mocker and ridiculer here, they will grow and gain in wisdom and grace. It my not be tomorrow or the next day, but it has been planted. And then there will come a time when they have to resolve those things within with the things without. That will be the time of choice. Choose wisely. And laugh a little bit too when you do.
    Poor persecuted Christians.

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    Poor persecuted Christians.
    Do you consider yourself a persecutor of Christians?
    Because I assure you I do not feel the least bit persecuted.
    I am having fun here. I am growing too.
    Thank you, you've aided this process immensely.

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    Blake why are you so worried about what happens when you die? You seem more interested in what happens when you die than any of us theists, are you not satisfied with the notion that nothing happens when you die? What do you want to happen when you die?
    Again, not worried, just curious as to believers opinions of the afterlife.

    I would like to be transformed into a super powered being when I die.....but I'm not counting on it.

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    Again, not worried, just curious as to believers opinions of the afterlife.

    I would like to be transformed into a super powered being when I die.....but I'm not counting on it.
    Why do you limit yourself to being one only once you die?
    Why can't you do it while you live?

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    Do you consider yourself a persecutor of Christians?
    Because I assure you I do not feel the least bit persecuted.
    Could have fooled me

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    Why do you limit yourself to being one only once you die?
    Why can't you do it while you live?
    Because beings with unlimited super powers don't exist.

    Do you believe they do?

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    Could have fooled me

    Oh no, not me.
    Take credit for credits due.
    You have only yourself to blame.
    You are your own greatest critic.
    You are the one fooling yourself.

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    ...and this folks is what the response is when given truth.


    Self evident and irrefutable truth.

    Proof?

    Why is proof needed when the truth is self evident.

    Were you (was anyone) BORN with their current brain/beliefs/level of sophistication?
    Anyone?

    No one was.

    What does this PROVE?

    That all we presently think - and all we presently believe - all we presently consist of - WAS INHERITED FROM SOMEWHERE.

    Self evident truth.

    So if you want to get back to a pristine state - to a clean slate - and a clear and truthful place - you need to lift the "veil" get rid of your programming/conditioning and learn to see again.

    But don't let me try to give you any helpful hints - I am a fool - lol.
    Tldr

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