I also agree with you. Rob is intelligent and maybe a little too prideful to admit it. He doesn't impress me as being unreasonable, or like you say he was trolling. Or another reason may be that he is very religious and it goes against his beliefs.
This is just one of the MANY examples of "evolution" in microbiology. One of my many fascinations is how living systems evolved to perpetuate their existence and address their nutritional needs.
I really do believe robdiaz is just trolling at this point. I'm sure he's seen the light even way before you came on board. Either that or he just doesn't want to try and understand evolution and it's workings in the natural world.
I also agree with you. Rob is intelligent and maybe a little too prideful to admit it. He doesn't impress me as being unreasonable, or like you say he was trolling. Or another reason may be that he is very religious and it goes against his beliefs.
Mouse seems to be annoyed withat this point.. I don't think there is a comparison in their debating skills or habits anymore.
Best laugh I had in this thread so far.
You must not have been reading this thread at all. He asks a stupid question, ignores the answer he gets, then asks another stupid question. He never admits to being wrong, nor does he even answer the questions others ask him.He doesn't impress me as being unreasonable
Ding, ding, ding, ding! He thinks evolution threatens the religious beliefs that he's too chicken to actually defend.Or another reason may be that he is very religious and it goes against his beliefs.
There is always a first time for everything, even that.
I know I have been wrong many times on this site and have no qualms against admitting it.
Why should I? It won't change anything one way or another, nor do I take myself that seriously.
its ok, even if he is trolling.
I don't mind. I learn stuff just researching.
At this point, I have seen all the "arguments" presented by creationists, so it isn't hard to debunk it, either.
Mouse on the other hand... I gave up on him a long time ago. He is too incompetent to teach. Look up "donning kroger".
Don't be so hard on him.
Everyone has to begin somewhere, and it is hard to challenge the assumptions one grows up with, especially if you have been, in essence, brainwashed for hours every sunday growing up.
I think the base mistake a lot of people that profession creationism make is that they fail to ask themselves if creationist ideas are required to be a good Christian.
To paraphrase from memory a good quote I read somewhere:
"I fail to see that a Creator who has so loved us as to endow us with the faculty of logic and reason, would frown on their use." or something close to that.
I especially agree with the last part.
I am criticized on here for my beliefs simply because I not only believe in God, but also that I use science methodology and do not see a contradiction in the belief in theories like evolution.
I am not a literalist when it comes to things like the bible and don't see how any critical thinker can be.
So I am accused of cherry picking.
Go figure!
I haven't observed fossilization but I accept it occurs.
I have never observed love, but I know it exists.
I have never observed thought, but I know it exists too.
In fact I have never observed an idea, but I know it exists as well.
And I have never observed atomic theory either, but I know that exists too.
And on a lighter note, I've never observed a bear ting in the woods, but I am practically positive that exists too!![]()
Translation: until I see a fossil that proves me wrong.
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I have seen some fossils lately, and take my word for it, they should not have been behind the wheel of a car!
The Truth is Science and all the TV shows you see like Discovery. TLC .and Natural Geographic are owned and produced by Atheist and they won't allow any new evidence that may contradict thier agendas.
In fact Discovery channel did a Show about dinosaurs and there was a man who discovered a Dinosaur print on top of a human print. And get this, the Discovery channel purposely edited that footage from the show. If you do the research the largest fossil museum in the world fired the director of the Museum for trying to introduce the fossil.
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Did you see it fossilize? I see animals and humans every day. That doesn't prove they evolved.
Then how did they get here?
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That's a question for another thread. The fact they exist and you did not seem them fossilize means you don't have to see it happen to conclude it did.
post a link to that "thread"
and what "thread" is that reply approved for?The fact they exist and you did not seem them fossilize means you don't have to see it happen to conclude it did.
You'll have to start that one.
This one.and what "thread" is that reply approved for?
I see you have given up.
Sad.
Not really, I'm still looking for proof but have yet to find any.
um.. that isn't a fossil. You know that right?
It is also a really, really bad fake.
Shockingly enough the guy who found it is now trying to sell it, and creationists are falling all over themselves trying to buy it and play it up.
How exactly does this fossil speak to the genetic phylogeny we have developed after sequencing the genes of various creatures today?
In your own words, please.
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