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How do you think many cancers spread through the body?
Your mind is closed. This information has been out for far longer than a few years..you saying otherwise is proof to your not knowing enough about it. El Nono posted a great article btw..that you seemed to ignore. It is a miracle cure, its curing now and has cured for many years for people that do know about it, it cured a loved one of mine and people I know (and they refused that poisonous chemo and radiation). It makes no sense for you to act like none of this is true, more stories are out there but you don't really care to hear about them or research them because you want to feel comfortable that you have learned the right thing when you really haven't. You base your knowledge on flawed theory. Even if you wanna call if "anecdotal" evidence of only a few years..is that not enough to open your mind about it and wonder why they don't do some unbiased studies on it..or for you to look into it more?? But you won't and they don't want to, which is what keeps it suppressed even more. This cannabis thing was discovered several several several decades ago and was suppressed. Fighting cancer is not about doing only one therapy..you have to attack it from all angles possible..even though the oil cures/kills many cancers..as I said before you still have to change your diet, nutrition lifestyle to reverse the reason why you got cancer to begin with. This is how flawed conventional thinking is...chemo is a poison, it kills not only cancer cells but good cells too..killing your immune system even worse at the same time, you have to hope it kills the cancer before it kills you. What kind of ing crap is that ass backwards thinking?? Cannabis doesn't harm good cells, only bad.
When using chemo and radiation it kills your immune system..YOU NEED YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM to help kill your cancer..they do the complete opposite of what needs to be done, you should be boosting the immune system to be able to help you fight it off. Chemo and surgery do NOT fix the problem of why you got the cancer to begin with..even if chemo successfully killed cancer temporarily and you survived the chemo...your body still has a very broken immune system and they never tell you why you got cancer in order for you to reverse that lifestyle (unless they tell you some bs), they never send you home with a holistic lifestyle change to prevent it from coming back (there would be no money in it for them, nor have they been taught this in med school). Its only about getting checked up every so often to see if it came back. This is the stupidest thing ever. Of course it comes back many times, and more aggressively too..bc you never really fixed yourself..you just cut some stuff out..and the mold grows back. Some of this stuff is actually common sense if you think about it. And you are sadly mistaken thinking BigPharma isn't doing all they can to keep this quiet. You have any idea the billions and billions and billions of dollars at stake if the masses learned this?? More and more people are learning though..the info is spreading and there will be a day where your side loses big time. I still remember the day people called organic eaters crazy..my my how things have changed the past decade or so on that. lol It's spreading bro..Even Sanjay Gupta came around on the cannabis thing.
Last edited by SA210; 10-26-2013 at 11:53 AM.
How do you think many cancers spread through the body?
"YOU NEED YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM to help kill your cancer"
Actually, after cancer is well initiated, the immune system won't kill it. An immune system in good shape plus diet and exercise, aka top health, are the best defense.
They are now trying to stick stuff on the cancer cells that cause it to be attacked as foreign by the immune system, aka, oncological immunology, but otherwise, the immune system doesn't touch cancer.
Bernie Mac, who had auto-immune disease, died from an infection that his medically suppressed immune system couldn't handle.
That's why I said "to help". They are stupid to further hurt your immune system..but then again maybe they are smart as it keeps them in businesssmh
This photo was taken at a CVS Pharmacy next to the employee break room.
CVS gives shots to the public.
Got damn you're stupid.
^angry name caller ^ always angry^ always labeling ^ always boring^
Common sense means a lot less than the systematic collection, collation and analysis of data.Lol I dont need a scientist to tell me flu shots are a money making scam. Sometimes you gotta use your personal experience and common sense to reach conclusions. I ask you why does a healthy adult need a yearly dose of a flu shot?
Btw they call it a vaccine, but its not. The flu mutates thousand times a day, their so called flu vaccines are already outdated every year they come out.what a bunch of bull
I implore you to start using common sense and realize doctors and companies are in on the scam when they have those flu shot days
Sorry, if I had a dollar for every pseudoscientific turd pushed my way using the words "common sense" I could be paying someone else to tell you how dumb "common sense" can be.
As it is:
common sense < scientific study
Let's examine this a bit, then, since you are confident in your common sense. Common sense says that a logically, factually supported opinion can withstand some fair questions.
Fair question #1:
What are the benefits of vaccines?
I see a wall of text, but no scientific study supporting your position, or attempt to educate me.Do you ever think for yourself or do you copy and paste yours and other ppl's old tired bs arguments of attempting to explain how to debate a topic for your lack of any real knowledge on a topic?
Your problem is YOU don't understand there is a business in suppressing natural healthcare.. and you stupidly and sheepishly are ignorant and blind believing things have to be only the way BigPharma says it has to be. You have done no REAL research on natural healthcare, although you would like to believe you have, nor have you ever tried it yourself, which is why your kids get sick and mine doesn't, same for you and your sicknesses. I am not going to post things based on YOUR twisted brainwashed views and rules. FDA. BigPharma and the rest of the corrupt in those fields do all they can to suppress info and to either do a hit job on studies that are out, or prevent studies from taking place on natural vs unnatural. There is a reason for that. There are many things I can post...but again, I won't post anything based on YOUR ignorant rules..you already have your mind made up regardless. You use words like "jeeob " bc you don't have the intelligence to expand your mind and truly look into something you fear to know. Ask yourself why they don't want to do any REAL unbiased studies on vaccinated children vs unvaccinated children, or natural vs chemical.. and how they try to sabotage any studies that anyone has tried to do. Whats the fear? Why would they do that?
If "natural" healthcare is that beneficial, it should be easy to demonstrate, conclusively, and indisputably.
I don't mind taking an open mind to new things, but I do mind buying into something without a good reason.
Your reason in believing anything seems to be that it makes you feel smarter than everybody else. That seems to be a ty reason to believe anything, IMO.
I have been told by a doctor that there are so many different strains of flu every year and that flu shots are at best regional in distribution. While you may get inoculated for a particular strain that is only going to be one of many that you will be exposed to. If you are a kid at aschool its almost laughable how flimsy the protection is going to be.
'Flu' is just a catch all phrase for many different pathogens.
Yeah, the WHO meets every February and September and recommends on which flu strains are the most prevalent in the Northern and Southern Hemisphere. From that manufacturers then proceed with making the vaccine. Definitely all strains can't be covered of course, since most vaccines cover 3 strains (4 strains just became available).
Protection rates are probably 30%-60% to flu. There's probably no way to be more precise considering, like you said, reported cases include 'influenza-like illnesses', which of course won't be protected by the vaccine. While I have some question about the effectiveness of the vaccine, it's for reasons completely different from these uneducated conspiracy nutjobs. Vulnerable age groups should definitely consider it though.
I think you feel as though you are less smart than me when posting your drivel. You keep mentioning this "smart" thing. It's important to you. I know you get sick more. I would recommend to you..to know what you're talking about when it comes to natural healthcare before attempting to tell someone who practices it.. what it is or what it's not, what it can or can't do, etc. You realize you and your kids get sick, while my child and I don't, that helps in your feeling less smart about it I imagine, and it should. Be open as you say..and just study and practice it so you can see for yourself and you won't be ignorant to it anymore, and you can apologize to your family for wrongly and selfishly judging and backstabbing them tbh.
This is the same problem with many chemo therapies.
So it's a decision, what illness do you wish to do battle with, because you will become susceptible to another.
This is a common problem.
There are people who actually study the phenomena of the spread of disease and vaccinations, epidemiologists. They get their flu vaccines. The healthy ones that are not likely to die from the flu do so as well. Their reasoning:
There are clearly people who get infected with flu viruses that show very minor or no symptoms and are carriers of the virus. They are still up and about loaded with viruses, infecting other people. God forbid people should actually care about others. A good number of epidemiologists are required to visit areas with a lot of other people and travel. Go figure that they get a vaccine.
The horror stories associated with bad vaccination planning are note worthy. But I will stick with the folks who know about these risks and study the phenomena.
anybody got any proof that the $Bs shovelled to BigPharma for flu vaccines actually reduce flu infections, or save lives?
The epi people are there to present good data and make their recommendations. If you think the CDC and other agencies are corrupt at the top and follow big pharmacy goals present the evidence.
What the higher ups do with the data and recommendations is another story. You got a story that puts a higher up at the CDC in bed with vaccine folks give it again.
The people "in the field" are not there to lie. This stuff is way too important.
Another wall of text I won't bother responding to.I think you feel as though you are less smart than me when posting your drivel. You keep mentioning this "smart" thing. It's important to you. I know you get sick more. I would recommend to you..to know what you're talking about when it comes to natural healthcare before attempting to tell someone who practices it.. what it is or what it's not, what it can or can't do, etc. You realize you and your kids get sick, while my child and I don't, that helps in your feeling less smart about it I imagine, and it should. Be open as you say..and just study and practice it so you can see for yourself and you won't be ignorant to it anymore, and you can apologize to your family for wrongly and selfishly judging and backstabbing them tbh.
You meltdown like this whenever anyone asks you about actual science and evidence, even when the questions are fair and open minded.
The continual insults all strikes me as very insecure. I'm sorry I threaten you so much.
Anyhoo...
The study I have done, leads me to think it is a bunch of quackery. I am all about trying something to see if it works, as long as there isn't any harm.
Quite frankly, people like you who like to feel like they are in on a secret and smarter than anybody else are scammers' dream.
Honest question:
How do you know what works and what is placebo effect when it comes to this stuff?
You have done no studies, any real ones anyway. Your desperate failed attempt at calling my truth bombs a meltdown is proof of your own butthurt for your feeling less smart for some reason. It might be best if you learned about natural healthcare before you meltdown again..your family awaits an apology from you. And maybe you can be less sick too.
Nature will tell you, try it out lol
I'm sure the CDC is as captured by industry, staffed throughout by industry lobbyists, as any other Federal agency.
You are sure...
This is not a good way to convince anyone. This is not an organization you want staffed with people who lie. You want good data on this. This requires good science and good stats. To be correct in this arena is in the US economic interest.
disagree. It's saddening you think that way, but not surprising. It seems you like people telling you what to do and how to think.
you fail to see the "scientific study" has billions of dollars of possible profit depending on its outcome
Answer my question first:Let's examine this a bit, then, since you are confident in your common sense. Common sense says that a logically, factually supported opinion can withstand some fair questions.
Fair question #1:
What are the benefits of vaccines?
and BTW:
A) Flu shot is not a true vaccine(although its marketed and sold as one)
B) Even if it was, a healthy adult body is strong enough to fight off a flu, which makes a healthy adult needing a vaccine for it stupid
C) Building your immune system the "natural" way and fighting flu naturally >>>>>>>>>> using a yearly "vaccine" and spending money on it
Last edited by cheguevara; 10-29-2013 at 02:27 PM.
if there is any proof, I'm sure it's studies performed by BigPharma
truth is there is no study needed to tell me a healthy adult does not require a yearly flu shot. None whatsoever. It's a big money making scam. And many ignorant masses fell headfirst into it.
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