The Curious Brainwashing Case of ...

[xmas1997]

I concur with a lot of what you said and appreciate the input.

I know that I invited a lot of hostility by the way I stated things and by the way that I went about things in general - some of it was deliberate - a lot of it was semi-deliberate and a little was planned. A tiny bit of method to the madness if you will.
When I stumbled upon these things myself - my first reaction was - anger/hostility - I mean - who the are you to label me "brainwashed" "programmed"

Except - I pondered on what I kept discovering - and this hostility turned to - curiosity - then it went from there. To be open to what might be found - is not the same as being gullible -it is just an openness to receive "new" information - and not just look for things that "confirm" your conclusions/opinions/knowledge. The more I kept discovering - it began to horrify me - when it began to dawn on me that there might be truth in this new information and that it was probably the main reason for my suffering . (Again - this is where suffering can be a great help -to you - and is given to you for a reason - to help you grow.) I was horrified to learn that I had been completely "taught wrong" or "had allowed myself to be so completely programmed" and I was horrified to learn that almost every single thought, every reaction, every thing in my life - had come from programming. Then it was either - go into denial - and close my eyes and go back to the comfort of the world I knew - in other words - stay programmed and stay asleep - or -
get to doing the work of de-programming myself. Make a stand and do the work of getting de-programmed.

A lot of the things that I was fortunate/unfortunate to have experienced were a gift/curse? and set me on this path - I think everyone has their own journey and there are times when -if I was presented with the same information - I would not have been ready - or I would have missed it.

Suffering is a great gift - to be given - and maybe because of this I was able to receive this information -

I mention this because some of this stuff - might point someone else - towards the path - which then they will follow their intuition and find their way. Sometimes you can't see it - this minute - or at this point in your life - but it might hit you at a later time in your life.

On the other hand - if you had already concluded that the messenger was a ____ ____ & a piece of ______ - before even reading the information - then it might just seem like the information is pure _____.

ymmv

Looks to me like we are all on our paths, at least those of us honest enough to admit it, and those of us willing to do the legwork, rather than "settling" for our lots in life.
That is a good sign.
Even Blake is on his path because I doubt he likes being "asleep". I suspect he prefers being somewhat in control of his reality.
Did you see how many Blakes there are out there in my last post?
Parallel Universe Theory is a fascinating one.
And can be quite humorous.
Somewhere out there is a Blake who thinks you are the cats meow.

[silverblk mystix]

Looks to me like we are all on our paths, at least those of us honest enough to admit it, and those of us willing to do the legwork, rather than "settling" for our lots in life.
That is a good sign.
Even Blake is on his path because I doubt he likes being "asleep". I suspect he prefers being somewhat in control of his reality.
Did you see how many Blakes there are out there in my last post?
Parallel Universe Theory is a fascinating one.
And can be quite humorous.
Somewhere out there is a Blake who thinks you are the cats meow.

Judging by how many threads and posts of mine Blake has bumped -

I'd say he already secretly thinks that about me

[xmas1997]

So now are you doing the deprograming?

What happened to Boutons_deux?
He was right on cue with his assessment and discussing Jesus letting his reality of the little you die so He could open the way for the realization of the true Reality of the True You come forth. He only had one or two posts.

And what happened to LnGrrrR? He was a self proclaimed atheistic existentialist who was really into the discussion with many eye opening posts from an atheistic point of view. Just goes to show no one has a monopoly on Truth.

Also what happened to TeysheBlue? Was she some sort of musician?

[silverblk mystix]

So now are you doing the deprograming?

What happened to Boutons_deux?
He was right on cue with his assessment and discussing Jesus letting his reality of the little you die so He could open the way for the realization of the true Reality of the True You come forth. He only had one or two posts.

And what happened to LnGrrrR? He was a self proclaimed atheistic existentialist who was really into the discussion with many eye opening posts from an atheistic point of view. Just goes to show no one has a monopoly on Truth.

Also what happened to TeysheBlue? Was she some sort of musician?

I can only guess why boutons only posted once or twice -
A) Didn't care for the topic
B) Didn't want to have the "gang" against him
C) Has nothing else to say -
D) Your guess is as good as mine


Same for LnGrrr -

Teysha posted a link I believe - decent musician - but then afterwards - he just joined the "gang" and all his posts were attacks.

Go figure.

[pgardn]

In our attempts to explain reality there are many theories coming out of string theory in science these days. The superstring theory, the Multiverse theory, and the parallel universe theory are just a few, and backed up by mathematics.

That last one posits that any given person can exist at the same time in more than one place. If we were somehow able to tap into the power to travel to these other universes then we would be able to theoretically "meet" our other selves. And since there are an infinite number of universes, then there are an infinite number of ourselves. We may be a doctor here, a trash collector there, that is an infinite number of us doing an infinite number of things.

In other words, there are an infinite number of Chumps and an infinite number of SBMs, doing an infinite number of things with each other and an infinite number of things separate from each other, in some they do not even know each other, in others they are good friends, while in others they even be related to each other, or are arguing with each other like they are here.

This is a further example of how "realities" are mutable, and as yet only theorized about.
As the mystic is better able to maintain his understanding that he is forever in the "now" and thus erase his brainwashing, then his reality is the knowing that he is creating as he creates, rather than being unaware of his haphazard brainwashed creating.

Jesus.

You are charlatan on so many levels... It's difficult to take this approach seriously as it is basically saying it, we don't know what reality is and then we get into a huge discussion about definitions of words which you approach in a haphazard manner. This cavalier airy, fairy crap.

I am leaving town for work but I will humbly ask for 3 definitions...

mystic
realities
Individual or selves...

This is like Deepak Chopra multiplied by 10.

[pgardn]

What is wrong with a big fat I don't know once in a while...

[silverblk mystix]

What is wrong with a big fat I don't know once in a while...

This is where we actually stand on the issue of "god"

No one knows -

science included.

[xmas1997]

Jesus.

You are charlatan on so many levels... It's difficult to take this approach seriously as it is basically saying it, we don't know what reality is and then we get into a huge discussion about definitions of words which you approach in a haphazard manner. This cavalier airy, fairy crap.

I am leaving town for work but I will humbly ask for 3 definitions...

mystic
realities
Individual or selves...

This is like Deepak Chopra multiplied by 10.

What is wrong with a big fat I don't know once in a while...

What I said was fraudulent? That was what you took away from what I said? I wasn't selling anything.
I was explaining some things that I have learned however. I repeat, "things I have learned".

What is your definition of your subjective reality?

Mystic = One who has a deep, inner sense of Life and Unity with the Whole. Or a person who claims to attain, or believes in the possibility of attaining, insight into mysteries transcending ordinary human knowledge.

Realities = Everything that is and has been, whether or not it is observable or comprehensible. A broader definition is everything that has existed, exists, or will exist.

Self = The essential qualities that cons ute a persons's uniqueness or essential being.

These are things that you could have just as easily looked up for yourself.

Deepak Chopra is a New Age guru, but you could easily argue that he is a mystic.

I contend we are all mystics as long as we are on the path to seeking our inner Truth.
And that happens as soon as we realize what SBM has said about what we have been brainwashed all our lives to accept as real, as reality, or as truth, is not the Real Truth or Reality we were born with.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

In our attempts to explain reality there are many theories coming out of string theory in science these days. The superstring theory, the Multiverse theory, and the parallel universe theory are just a few, and backed up by mathematics.

That last one posits that any given person can exist at the same time in more than one place. If we were somehow able to tap into the power to travel to these other universes then we would be able to theoretically "meet" our other selves. And since there are an infinite number of universes, then there are an infinite number of ourselves. We may be a doctor here, a trash collector there, that is an infinite number of us doing an infinite number of things.

In other words, there are an infinite number of Chumps and an infinite number of SBMs, doing an infinite number of things with each other and an infinite number of things separate from each other, in some they do not even know each other, in others they are good friends, while in others they even be related to each other, or are arguing with each other like they are here.

This is a further example of how "realities" are mutable, and as yet only theorized about.
As the mystic is better able to maintain his understanding that he is forever in the "now" and thus erase his brainwashing, then his reality is the knowing that he is creating as he creates, rather than being unaware of his haphazard brainwashed creating.

This is a fine example of psuedo-intellectual nonsense.

String theory supposes that quarks and electrons are made up of vibrating strings. In order for the theory to work, the strings have to move in extra dimensions to meet the law of conservation of energy.

There is no mathematical justification for a parallel universe that are in any way analogous to our own. This is just mystical bull that you tack on without justification.

[xmas1997]

This is a fine example of psuedo-intellectual nonsense.

String theory supposes that quarks and electrons are made up of vibrating strings. In order for the theory to work, the strings have to move in extra dimensions to meet the law of conservation of energy.

There is no mathematical justification for a parallel universe that are in any way analogous to our own. This is just mystical bull that you tack on without justification.

You again?

Give it up, fuzzy.
I am neutral to your baiting and impervious to your ridicule.
You should be happy.
You taught me that lesson.

I will be more than happy to discuss humor with you.
Anything else though, you will have to just settle for baiting someone more gullible.
Sorry.

[silverblk mystix]

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You again?

Give it up, fuzzy.
I am neutral to your baiting and impervious to your ridicule.
You should be happy.
You taught me that lesson.

I will be more than happy to discuss humor with you.
Anything else though, you will have to just settle for baiting someone more gullible.
Sorry.

What mathematical justification from sting theory gives credence that there are parallel universes just like our own with replicas of us in them?

Don't 'take the bait' and have people realize that you are talking out of your ass. You are not my audience.

[xmas1997]

Still here baiting?
Honestly, don't you have anything better to do?

[SA210]

This is a fine example of psuedo-intellectual nonsense.

So that's what set you off huh, that someone neutral called you out on your failed bull and reduced you before your game could ever begin? silly troll


So butthurt you brought your insecure ass in here too.. trying to get xmas back for simply being neutral

[xmas1997]

So that's what set you off huh, that someone neutral called you out on your failed bull and reduced you before your game could ever begin? silly troll


So butthurt you brought your insecure ass in here too.. trying to get xmas back for simply being neutral

Is that how this guy is?
I guess he figures that if he follows me around and bugs me enough I'll eventually give in to his shenanigans and answer him.
Go figure!
I'll always be willing to share some humor with him.
I have a great dwarf joke.

[silverblk mystix]

^ the case of the melting vagina ^ bizarre to say the least ^ "you are not my audience" ^ wtf? ^

[xmas1997]

^ the case of the melting vagina ^ bizarre to say the least ^ "you are not my audience" ^ wtf? ^

That went right over my head too.
But on a humorous note I do have a joke about a mental midget, no pun, or rather irony, intended.
And an even better one about a dwarf.

[silverblk mystix]

That went right over my head too.
But on a humorous note I do have a joke about a mental midget, no pun, or rather irony, intended.
And an even better one about a dwarf.

Let's hear em...

[SA210]

Is that how this guy is?
I guess he figures that if he follows me around and bugs me enough I'll eventually give in to his shenanigans and answer him.
Go figure!
I'll always be willing to share some humor with him.
I have a great dwarf joke.

Yes that's how he is, that's how chump is, that's how blake is, that's how clitternation is and the other trolls you have been watching haha

Especially lately bc they have been getting picked apart like never before.. by me, sbm..and now you..what's funny about your picking fuzzy and blake apart is ur just being neutral and having a discussion (psst..which is why chump has been avoiding you now, chump is usually backing his e-buddies up that you are exposing, but not now when u are the one exposing them )


lol silly trolls

[xmas1997]

Well, ok, I think I already gave away the punch line and they are always better vocally, but ........

The other day I was driving back home from Lowes and traffic was a little heavy.

I was pretty much following the car in front of me and listening to some tunes on the radio, not really paying much attention.

When all of a sudden ...... the car in front came to a screeching halt.

I slammed on my brakes, but I was a little too close and a little too late.

Because my truck just barely came to stop bumping into him.

It didn't even put a mark on his car, but apparently the guy inside was super pissed.

Because when he got out of his car he was stomping mad and cussing up a storm.

I noticed he was a dwarf, of all things, as he stomped around and then came stomping over to my truck.

I rolled down my window to hear what he had to say.

He came over all blustery and said, "I AM NOT ....... HAPPY"!

I looked at the mad irate dwarf and replied,

"Ok then.
Which one are you?"

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Still here baiting?
Honestly, don't you have anything better to do?

So now baiting is asking you to justify an assertion of yours. Nice.

It doesn't really matter. Do not answer. Any objective reader will now see that you were talking out of your ass regarding parallel universes and string theory anyway. As I have pointed out that is all I care about.

[silverblk mystix]

Well, ok, I think I already gave away the punch line and they are always better vocally, but ........

The other day I was driving back home from Lowes and traffic was a little heavy.

I was pretty much following the car in front of me and listening to some tunes on the radio, not really paying much attention.

When all of a sudden ...... the car in front came to a screeching halt.

I slammed on my brakes, but I was a little too close and a little too late.

Because my truck just barely came to stop bumping into him.

It didn't even put a mark on his car, but apparently the guy inside was super pissed.

Because when he got out of his car he was stomping mad and cussing up a storm.

I noticed he was a dwarf, of all things, as he stomped around and then came stomping over to my truck.

I rolled down my window to hear what he had to say.

He came over all blustery and said, "I AM NOT ....... HAPPY"!

I looked at the mad irate dwarf and replied,

"Ok then.
Which one are you?"

good one!

[silverblk mystix]

So now baiting is asking you to justify an assertion of yours. Nice.

It doesn't really matter. Do not answer. Any objective reader will now see that you were talking out of your ass regarding parallel universes and string theory anyway. As I have pointed out that is all I care about.

Translation: "my vagina won't stop bleeding!"

[xmas1997]

So now baiting is asking you to justify an assertion of yours. Nice.

It doesn't really matter. Do not answer. Any objective reader will now see that you were talking out of your ass regarding parallel universes and string theory anyway. As I have pointed out that is all I care about.

Read the joke.
You actually might loosen up a little.
Get a positive change in your life.
Do you some good.
Laugh a little.

[SA210]

Well, ok, I think I already gave away the punch line and they are always better vocally, but ........

The other day I was driving back home from Lowes and traffic was a little heavy.

I was pretty much following the car in front of me and listening to some tunes on the radio, not really paying much attention.

When all of a sudden ...... the car in front came to a screeching halt.

I slammed on my brakes, but I was a little too close and a little too late.

Because my truck just barely came to stop bumping into him.

It didn't even put a mark on his car, but apparently the guy inside was super pissed.

Because when he got out of his car he was stomping mad and cussing up a storm.

I noticed he was a dwarf, of all things, as he stomped around and then came stomping over to my truck.

I rolled down my window to hear what he had to say.

He came over all blustery and said, "I AM NOT ....... HAPPY"!

I looked at the mad irate dwarf and replied,

"Ok then.
Which one are you?"