Initial attempts to sign up for ObamaCare go about as well as expected

[Clipper Nation]

If Americans didn't want TO BE ED forever by their for-profit, wealth-sucking health care racket, they now get to be ed even harder by the government's wealth-sucking health care racket.

fify

[spurraider21]

My grievance is not political; all my energies are directed to enjoying life and staying alive, and I have no time for politics. For almost seven years I have fought and survived stage-4 gallbladder cancer, with a five-year survival rate of less than 2% after diagnosis. I am a determined fighter and extremely lucky. But this luck may have just run out: My affordable, lifesaving medical insurance policy has been canceled effective Dec. 31.

(http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...780446?tesla=y)

[spurraider21]

Romney care had horrible startup software problems AND crazy low startup enrollments. Apart from the healthcare.gov expected nightmare (FBI spent $1B and never got anything), people don't enroll (pay) 6 weeks before the deadline and 2 months before coverage starts. Romneycare had a huge rush of enrollments just before the deadline, and took 2 years to achieve it's long term average which is now 98% of MA covered.

you right-wing ankle-biters in the peanut gallery will eat your schadenfreude with sauce. ACA's success is inevitable, and it will be, like the shutdown and Repug filibusers, a huge electoral boost for the Dems.

dam, lowering your standards to that of the dreaded repugs? now thats a new low

[boutons_deux]

My grievance is not political; all my energies are directed to enjoying life and staying alive, and I have no time for politics. For almost seven years I have fought and survived stage-4 gallbladder cancer, with a five-year survival rate of less than 2% after diagnosis. I am a determined fighter and extremely lucky. But this luck may have just run out: My affordable, lifesaving medical insurance policy has been canceled effective Dec. 31.

(http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...780446?tesla=y)

WSJ?, so surprising from the Mort toilet paper, with the supposedly horrible ANECDOTE, probably won't stand up to fact checking.

"My choice is to get coverage through the government health exchange and lose access to my cancer doctors"

why lose acces to YOUR cancer doctors? It's an "in or out network" kludgeocracratic cartel set up by the insurers, not by ACA?

why blame ACA for YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY cancelling the policy. ACA didn't cancel your policy.

My bet is that United Health is abusing ACA as an pretext to drop your very expensive treatment after $1.2M.

"I guess that's a highly effective way to control medical costs. Perhaps that's the point."

duh, finally, after all the spurious bull , YOU GET TO THE POINT. United is cutting its costs by cancelling you, it's NOT ACA cancelling.

you AND WSJ let us know how you make out in the new California ACA individual market exchange, woncha?

[spurraider21]

yeah WSJ is such an unreliable source, tbh

[boobie4three]

Bouton slams everyone for their sources but all his links come from far left websites. Typical liberal hypocrite.

[boutons_deux]

yeah WSJ is such an unreliable source, tbh

anything from WSJ these days is tainted by the ownership.

Probably not too bad on business/financial, but on social/politics, it ain't ing reliable

[spurraider21]

any publication that goes against what you are saying is tainted and unreliable, tbh

[spurraider21]

Too Stupid Asshole:

educate yourself as to size of the individual insurance market, how it's unaffordable for many people, and then how many bought junk insurance now forbidden by ACA.

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/News...Consumers.aspx

commonwealthfund.org as a source

they're tainted bruh

[boutons_deux]

commonwealthfund.org as a source

they're tainted bruh

do you have different facts about the size of the individual market?

[boutons_deux]

any publication that goes against what you are saying is tainted and unreliable, tbh

finally, you're catching on, congrats.

[spurraider21]

no, i'm just playing the same re ed game you are

[spurraider21]

any publication that goes against what you are saying is tainted and unreliable, tbh

finally, you're catching on, congrats.

liberals are so open minded compared to the others

[SA210]

I'm still stuck on the whole Obama being against mandates thing tbh. How many things does he get to lie about and flip flop on before the left gets angry enough to realize that he's a damn fraud, and same as the right? They don't care. PERIOD. The D next to his name is all the matters.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Looks like it's the Dems who are trying to sabotage 0bamacare.

Sen. Mary Landrieu says she'll offer a bill to allow Americans to keep existing health insurance

By Bruce Alpert, NOLA.com | Times-Picayune
on October 30, 2013 at 2:58 PM, updated October 30, 2013 at 11:31 PM


WASHINGTON -- Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., said she will propose legislation to ensure Americans can keep their current insurance even if it may not comply with minimum standards under the Affordable Care Act.

Landrieu's comments Wednesday came after reports that insurance companies have sent out hundreds of thousands of letters telling people with individual policies -- not obtained under a group, or through employers -- that they must seek other insurance because theirs doesn't comply with the health law's mandated coverage.

Republicans said those actions contradict numerous statements by President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats, including Landrieu, that people could keep their policies if they were satisfied with them, even after the Affordable Care Act was implemented.

"The promise was made and it should be kept," Landrieu said Wednesday. "And it was our understanding when we voted for that, that people when they have insurance, could keep what they had. So, I'm going to be working on that fix."

Landrieu's "Keeping the Affordable Care Act Promise" legislation would allow people to hold on to policies that don't meet the "essential benefits" coverage provisions mandated by the Affordable Care Act. But it would require insurers who offer such plans to inform consumers of the "essential benefits" their policies don't provide.

Landrieu believes consumers should be fully informed on what they are getting and not getting from their health insurance, her aides said.

They expect Landrieu to introduce her bill on Thursday.

On Tuesday, the conservative Weekly Standard quoted Landrieu as saying that the assurance to Americans was that, "if you had insurance that was good insurance that you wanted to keep it, you could keep it."

Since then, aides said, the senator learned of a bill being drafted by Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisc., and decided to offer her own, with more consumer disclosures.

Obama defended the administration's policy on individual plans in a speech in Boston: "One of the things health reform was designed to do was to help not only the uninsured but also the underinsured," the president said. "And there are a number of Americans, fewer than 5 percent of Americans, who've got cut-rate plans that don't offer real financial protection in the event of a serious illness or an accident."

"Before the Affordable Care Act, the worst of these plans routinely dropped thousands of Americans every single year," the president said. "And on average, premiums for folks who stayed in their plans for more than a year shot up about 15 percent a year. This wasn't just bad for those folks who were, had these policies; it was bad for all of us, because, again, when tragedy strikes, and folks can't pay their medical bills, everybody else picks up the tab."

At a contentious House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing Wednesday, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said the Obama administration is carrying out the law that says Americans could keep polices that were in effect before the Affordable Care Act became law in 2010. Americans can keep individual plans bought after that date if the polices comply with minimum coverage requirements, according to the law.

Many of the 5 percent of Americans with individual coverage have been denied basic consumer protection or adequate coverage for serious illness, she said. Companies regularly cancel individual policies and have done so well before the Affordable Care Act became law and are doing so now, the secretary said.

"This market has always been the Wild West," Sebelius said.

Those losing coverage, Sebelius said, can buy more comprehensive coverage, often at the same or lower prices, through the exchanges, the marketplaces set up under the law to purchase coverage and qualify for income-based subsidies.

But Republicans said many Americans looking for replacements for their canceled individual policies are either finding "sticker shock" in terms of higher prices at the Affordable Care exchanges, or finding they can't access the troubled Affordable Care Act website, Healthcare.gov. It was down at least part of the day Wednesday.

Reps. Steve Scalise, R-Jefferson, and Bill Cassidy, R-Baton Rouge, were among a host of House Energy and Commerce Committee Republicans who read from emails and letters sent to them from cons uents.

"People are sharing stories with me," Scalise said. "Shawn from Covington said: 'My current plan through United Health is no longer being offered in 2014 due to Obamacare.'"

"Madam Secretary," Scalise said, "what would you tell Shawn who liked his plan and now has lost it? He was promised by you and the president he would be able to keep that plan."

Sebelius said she would tell "Shawn to shop the (Affordable Care Act) marketplace." She also said United Health didn't have to cancel the plan if the policyholder had a plan issued before the law's 2010 enactment, or one that met the minimum criteria for health insurance.

Cassidy read a letter from a woman he identified as Adrienne: "She lost her coverage because spousal coverage is gone. She's gone on the exchange, doesn't qualify for a subsidy, but that her premium and out-of-pocket costs under any plan is $10,000 a year. She writes us. She feels betrayed by her government."

Under the Affordable Care Act, large businesses, starting in 2015, must provide coverage to employees, but not necessarily for their spouses and families.

Cassidy said he is supporting a new House bill to require the administration to allow Americans to keep their existing insurance.

The Affordable Care Act, which Landrieu supported and Cassidy opposed, is already a contentious issue as the two prepare to face each other and other candidates in the 2014 Louisiana Senate race.

The Kaiser Family Foundation said 15.4 million people had individual health coverage in 2011, or about 5 percent of the U.S. population. Most Americans obtain their policies through their employers, or Medicaid or Medicaid, and aren't being affected by the Affordable Care Act, the Kaiser report said.

During the hearing, Sebelius apologized for problems with the website. "In these early weeks, access to HealthCare.gov has been a miserably frustrating experience for way too many Americans, including many who have waited years, in some cases their entire lives, for the security of health insurance," Sebelius said.

"You deserve better," she said, speaking directly to Americans unable to enroll for insurance under the Affordable Care Act's exchanges. "I'm accountable to you for fixing these problems."

She predicted it would be fully operational by the end of November.

On Wednesday, Landrieu said she doesn't believe the president was intentionally trying to misrepresent the law when he told Americans they could keep their current insurance plan if they were satisfied with it once the Affordable Care Act was operational.

But she said the nation would be better off if Republicans tried to improve the law, rather than continually trying to defund or repeal it.


http://www.nola.com/politics/index.s...ll_suppor.html

you do realize that she is doing it for cover. right? It's not going to pass but she can now go back to the electorate and sya she tried... you're not very bright... sabotage..lol

[boobie4three]

you do realize that she is doing it for cover. right? It's not going to pass but she can now go back to the electorate and sya she tried... you're not very bright... sabotage..lol

How do you know why she's doing it? Are you her campaign manager?

[boutons_deux]

liberals are so open minded compared to the others

sure they are, They're the Superior Race.

[George Gervin's Afro]

How do you know why she's doing it? Are you her campaign manager?

because this happens all of the time..

[TSA]

boutons what are your feelings on Obama's outright lies?

[boutons_deux]

boutons what are your feelings on Obama's outright lies?

He screwed up badly, but did not lie, and it was very misleading, giving you assholes an opening to blow out a bunch of bull .

He should have said "If your current policy meets ACA minimums (iow, it ain't junk), then you can keep your policy" (if your insurance company let's you keep it, then ACA will, too)

How do you feel about dubya padding his crotch, putting on a flight suit, landing on an aircraft carrier and saying in May 2003 "the Iraq war is over"?

[boobie4three]

He screwed up badly, but did not lie, and it was very misleading, giving you assholes an opening to blow out a bunch of bull .

He should have said "If your current policy meets ACA minimums (iow, it ain't junk), then you can keep your policy" (if your insurance company let's you keep it, then ACA will, too)

How do you feel about dubya padding his crotch, putting on a flight suit, landing on an aircraft carrier and saying in May 2003 "the Iraq war is over"?

26 times he told Americans: "If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor....PERIOD He knew damn well insurance companies were going to have to cancel customer's policies because they weren't able to meet the stringent requirements required by 0bamacare. He blatantly lied to the American people in order to pass this stinking pile of but you don't care because to lib s like you, the means justify the ends.

[George Gervin's Afro]

26 times he told Americans: "If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor....PERIOD He knew damn well insurance companies were going to have to cancel customer's policies because they weren't able to meet the stringent requirements required by 0bamacare. He blatantly lied to the American people in order to pass this stinking pile of but you don't care because to lib s like you, the means justify the ends.

Obama can't control what Insurance companies do... it's not very hard to figure that out... and if your plan now doesn't meet the requirements of the law that is not his fault. Now with that being said, in the gotcha, sound bite society we will live in he won't be able to shake that... I seem to recall some people were telling us we had solid proof to justify rushing into a war... yet you crying es kept your traps shut so you have no right to whine like sissies who are bullied on the play ground.. the ACA is herre to stay so learn to live with it...

[George Gervin's Afro]

Cruz is excellent at dishonest rhetoric.

Try this:

If Americans didn't want TO BE ED forever by their for-profit, wealth-sucking health care racket, they would seek an alternative.

My favorite cruz lie is that he represents 26 million Texans...

[boobie4three]

Obama can't control what Insurance companies do... it's not very hard to figure that out... and if your plan now doesn't meet the requirements of the law that is not his fault. Now with that being said, in the gotcha, sound bite society we will live in he won't be able to shake that... I seem to recall some people were telling us we had solid proof to justify rushing into a war... yet you crying es kept your traps shut so you have no right to whine like sissies who are bullied on the play ground.. the ACA is herre to stay so learn to live with it...

This is going to be a millstone around the necks of all you Dems. Here's how it plays out imo.

* October 2013 - Harry Reid will NOT allow a vote on “you can keep your insurance”, dooming Landreau and other Senate Democrats. Obama announces that even if the Senate passes it, he would veto it.

* 1 November 2013 - The website will NOT be working, reported by MSM

* 15 December - the signups will not be cut off because millions will not have been able to sign up

* 1 Jan 2014 - Millions will lose their doctors, millions will not have insurance yet, reported by MSM

* 15 March 2014 - Exchanges will not have met their goals of signing up young healthys

* 1 April 2014 - Insurance Companies will, in their quarterly reports, disclose their expected losses for 2014, including the Federal subsidies that cover 90% of those losses — reported by the MSM

* April 2014 - Insurance companies predict 2015 rates based on 2014 experience, showing the beginnings of a death spiral. These will be leaked and reported by the MSM

* July 2014 - Heritage will compile and report the list of required federal subsidies (about $50 billion) to insurance companies, and the MSM will report it.

* August 2014 - Republican candidates will start running ads hanging all of the above on each and every Democrat House and Senate candidate.

* September 2014 - the website will finally be working, reported by the MSM, just in time to start signing up for 2015.

* October 2014 - Insurance companies will begin to send out their 90 day letters to large employers cancelling their group health policies because they do not satisfy HHS minimum standards. Companies will inform their employees (i.e., voters) MSM reports that 50 million will lose their insurance plans.

* 1 November 2014 - Insurance companies send out their 60 day letters of cancellation to the employers of another 50 million employees. MSM reports this.

* 4 November 2014 — Federal Elections

[ElNono]

Didn't Cruz party run an election on repealing Barrycare? How did that go?