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    Some dumb in this thread

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    He'll be back to playoff form, i.e. costing us championships with his brain-dead turnovers and piss-poor shot selection.
    Book it.

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    DMCs post is spot on.

    Manu walks a thin line of making an incredible play or a re ed play. Teams that are disciplined defensively play the former well (eg Miami) but Manu still tries to make them instead of using restraint.

    That said though Manu's shooting looks better this year. He couldn't hit last year and it probably made him make/force plays with his passing even when they weren't there.

    Hopefully his more balanced arsenal this year results in less stupid passes.

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    Manu gets accustomed to shooting gaps with passes in the regular season that he often doesn't adjust for the increased pressure and attention in the post season. That's why he turns the ball over so much. He makes the same passes in the regular season but the Demarcuses and the Sacres don't give a , they just watch it sail through. Take that into a game where every possession is like fighting for your life, and Manu doesn't value the ball so he just flings it and tries to force the action. It's not new. He came into the league doing that except he'd hit guys in the audience instead of giving it to the other team.

    Manu thinks he can make any pass he can imagine, so he tries it. That's like a shooter taking long range shots because he's made them before. The next one is going to go, at least in his mind. Look at that guy from Toronto tonight who kept pulling up from 25' and missing. Manu is to passing what Curry is to shooting. They can both make unbelievable plays, but it's going to cost you when they don't discriminate between in-game situations.
    If that was the case then way Manu didn't cost the Spurs with his TO's 'till last season's finals?

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    If that was the case then way Manu didn't cost the Spurs with his TO's 'till last season's finals?
    I've explained it already.

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    I've explained it already.
    Where?

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    He makes the same passes in the regular season but the Demarcuses and the Sacres don't give a , they just watch it sail through. Take that into a game where every possession is like fighting for your life, and Manu doesn't value the ball so he just flings it and tries to force the action.

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    Manu's turnovers per 36 minutes of play, over the past 4 years is 3.5. Tony's is 2.8 for the same time period. This is for the playoffs only.

    On the other hand, Tony's assists per 36 minutes in the playoffs over the past 4 years is 6.1 while Manu's is at 5.6.

    Manu's turnovers per 36 minutes increased significantly after the 2009-2010 season. I haven't been able to draw a correlation with an event, however it could be related to his international play or an injury he sustained.

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    He'll be back to playoff form, i.e. costing us championships with his brain-dead turnovers and piss-poor shot selection.
    Book it.

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    Manu's turnovers per 36 minutes of play, over the past 4 years is 3.5. Tony's is 2.8 for the same time period. This is for the playoffs only.

    On the other hand, Tony's assists per 36 minutes in the playoffs over the past 4 years is 6.1 while Manu's is at 5.6.

    Manu's turnovers per 36 minutes increased significantly after the 2009-2010 season. I haven't been able to draw a correlation with an event, however it could be related to his international play or an injury he sustained.

    When did he break his hand?

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    He makes the same passes in the regular season but the Demarcuses and the Sacres don't give a , they just watch it sail through. Take that into a game where every possession is like fighting for your life, and Manu doesn't value the ball so he just flings it and tries to force the action.
    That doesn't answer my question of "Why Manu's TO's hadn't hurt the Spurs in the PO before to last season's finals?"

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    Manu gets accustomed to shooting gaps with passes in the regular season that he often doesn't adjust for the increased pressure and attention in the post season. That's why he turns the ball over so much. He makes the same passes in the regular season but the Demarcuses and the Sacres don't give a , they just watch it sail through. Take that into a game where every possession is like fighting for your life, and Manu doesn't value the ball so he just flings it and tries to force the action. It's not new. He came into the league doing that except he'd hit guys in the audience instead of giving it to the other team.

    Manu thinks he can make any pass he can imagine, so he tries it. That's like a shooter taking long range shots because he's made them before. The next one is going to go, at least in his mind. Look at that guy from Toronto tonight who kept pulling up from 25' and missing. Manu is to passing what Curry is to shooting. They can both make unbelievable plays, but it's going to cost you when they don't discriminate between in-game situations.
    Manu's turnovers per 36 minutes of play, over the past 4 years is 3.5. Tony's is 2.8 for the same time period. This is for the playoffs only.

    On the other hand, Tony's assists per 36 minutes in the playoffs over the past 4 years is 6.1 while Manu's is at 5.6.

    Manu's turnovers per 36 minutes increased significantly after the 2009-2010 season. I haven't been able to draw a correlation with an event, however it could be related to his international play or an injury he sustained.
    These posts are contradictory.

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    He stopped being an emo drama queen about his role on the team and started being aggressive again. That crap he pulled during the finals pretty much said it all: talking to the media about his role and how Pop said he didn't need to score anymore, which he used to explain why he was being extremely passive. The Spurs obviously need him to score. He proved his point by playing worse than he's ever played in his entire career... and the Spurs lost their 5th championship. Nice work, .

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    That doesn't answer my question of "Why Manu's TO's hadn't hurt the Spurs in the PO before to last season's finals?"
    You could say his turnovers didn't hurt the Spurs in the large majority of the playoffs this year as well since they swept two rounds and made the Finals. However turnovers always hurt the team, unless you think somehow Manu has beneficial turnovers.

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    These posts are contradictory.
    No they aren't. Having an increase in turnovers doesn't make having turnovers a new thing.

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    When did he break his hand?
    Ever heard of Google?

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    He stopped being an emo drama queen about his role on the team and started being aggressive again. That crap he pulled during the finals pretty much said it all: talking to the media about his role and how Pop said he didn't need to score anymore, which he used to explain why he was being extremely passive. The Spurs obviously need him to score. He proved his point by playing worse than he's ever played in his entire career... and the Spurs lost their 5th championship. Nice work, .
    When will this guy stop sucking Parkers ...Manu has had that role since 2012.

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    You could say his turnovers didn't hurt the Spurs in the large majority of the playoffs this year as well since they swept two rounds and made the Finals. However turnovers always hurt the team, unless you think somehow Manu has beneficial turnovers.
    Not all turnovers are created equal, though, tbh. Some get handled cleanly by the other team and lead to fastbreak scores. Other turnovers are sloppy and the opponent can't really turn them into a fastbreak opportunity. Others fly out of bounds and really aren't any worse than a missed shot (except that you don't even have a chance to score if you turn the basketball over).

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    Not all turnovers are created equal, though, tbh. Some get handled cleanly by the other team and lead to fastbreak scores. Other turnovers are sloppy and the opponent can't really turn them into a fastbreak opportunity. Others fly out of bounds and really aren't any worse than a missed shot (except that you don't even have a chance to score if you turn the basketball over).
    Some people don't understand that. If you shoot 6-23 is like you had a couple of turnovers (see TP game 6).

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    In December 14ppg 5 assist 4 rebounds on 52% from the field

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    That doesn't answer my question of "Why Manu's TO's hadn't hurt the Spurs in the PO before to last season's finals?"

    He answered it ten times, moron.

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    Some people don't understand that. If you shoot 6-23 is like you had a couple of turnovers (see TP game 6).

    HEY IDIOTS.... IF YOU ARE CLINGING TO A LEAD AGAINST A YOUNGER TEAM ON A RUN THEN TIME IS YOUR ENEMY. MANU BRICKING A THREE WITH 20 ON THE SHOT CLOCK IS NOT THE SAME THING AS A SHOT CLOCK VIOLATION. EIGHT TURNOVERS, MOST OF THEM EARLY IN THE SHOT CLOCK, IS WORSE THAN A MISS LATE IN THE SHOT CLOCK.

    STUPID PEOPLE WAKE UP!

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    Ever heard of Google?
    Ever heard of "Rhetorical Question", ahole? Google that. Moron.

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    Sounds like Skull-1 is full of Christmas Spirit.

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    Sounds like Playnan is full of (Christmas)

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