It never was, don't know why Spurs fans even entertain this crap anymore and it goes 13 pages. Nothing ever was going to happen and we should all know this by now. Oh well on to the second half of the season coming soon.
Henson is injured and there is now way Bucks trade him.
Butler might be injured too (not sure).
It never was, don't know why Spurs fans even entertain this crap anymore and it goes 13 pages. Nothing ever was going to happen and we should all know this by now. Oh well on to the second half of the season coming soon.
What's the incentive for anyone to trade on the second Saturday of January?
"...And haven't once looked...good..."
We were No. 1 Seed and got bounced first round in the recent past. Regular season championship only good for HCA. Doesn't equate to much else come PO time.
Have a toast after the deal is closed and go get some es to celebrate.
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Yeah well join most of the teams in the NBA then, some have not made the playoffs or got near the finals in the last 7 years. It is not easy you know?
I think it would be a Danny Green and Nando move for someone like Young. Not sure the logistics on that, but Danny is the trade piece imo. He's not really much of a contributor it seems.
The true question is to know is they're looking to make a huge trade or a smaller move...
Like some people said teams are always looking to improve BUT at the same time the end of the road is in sight...
Imo Splitter is on the block, the way he always starts in a broken unit imo is Pop showcasing him. on the other hand he never planed to part with Green so he had no hesitation about putting him on the bench, there's no value to perserve here... It's the RJeff thing all over again.
As far as Splitter trades I'm thinking about something like this :
Spurs get : Boozer + Snell
Bulls get : Bonner + another expiring from third team (for instance Marion or Humphries)
Third team get : Splitter
The Spurs have complete flexibility in 2015 with Boozer huge expiring... And as far as the present is concerned, they get another low post scoring option, and a shooting guard with great defensive potential...
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This thread going 13 pages shows you a) how dull the NBA is right now and b) how great the other threads currently active are.
^ from the guy who thinks Green is more likely to be moved than Splitter:
How about this : I'll ban myself from upstair and not just the trade thread if Green gets traded before Splitter. And if they do ship Splitter somewhere I'll just enjoy seeing you backpedaling all butthurt...
Green : shut down Curry, hit a game tieing shot to send game 1 to overtime, broke the Finals 3pt record...
Splitter : got hacked by the Thunder in an elimlnation series, was the worst player in the Finals, 3 years of RJeff like impact in the post season basically...
He'd be a monumental upgrade over both players. If he's in the last year of his deal I say he's even more appealing. I'm not a big Prince fan, but he does guard well and he would fit the system.
I don't necessarily disagree, but Splitters PnR defense was huge against the Grizz and GS
Just no.
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Rk Player Age G MP PER ▾ TS% eFG% FTr 3PAr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48 1 DeJuan Blair 23 12 76 31.2 .619 .618 .265 .000 9.4 26.3 18.1 18.7 3.5 1.0 2.6 24.2 131 94 0.4 0.2 0.6 .348 2 Tony Parker 30 21 765 21.5 .521 .473 .307 .085 2.2 7.8 5.1 34.6 1.7 0.3 11.3 28.9 108 105 1.7 0.8 2.4 .152 3 Tim Duncan 36 21 735 21.3 .523 .470 .305 .003 8.7 24.2 16.7 9.6 1.3 3.5 10.3 26.1 106 98 1.1 1.4 2.5 .161 4 Kawhi Leonard 21 21 775 18.9 .611 .600 .232 .280 7.7 20.1 14.1 4.6 2.6 1.1 9.0 15.6 120 98 1.7 1.4 3.1 .194 5 Nando De Colo 25 5 14 17.0 .410 .250 .500 .750 16.9 15.9 16.4 20.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 16.5 122 106 0.0 0.0 0.1 .184 6 Manu Ginobili 35 21 560 16.5 .530 .474 .415 .497 1.9 13.7 8.0 29.7 2.3 0.8 19.4 23.9 102 101 0.5 0.8 1.3 .110 7 Danny Green 25 21 669 15.2 .605 .594 .081 .613 3.2 11.5 7.5 7.4 1.8 2.6 9.0 15.0 117 102 1.2 0.9 2.1 .154 8 Patrick Mills 24 9 31 13.5 .600 .600 .000 .700 3.8 7.2 5.5 10.6 0.0 0.0 9.1 16.8 116 109 0.1 0.0 0.1 .119 9 Tiago Splitter 28 19 388 13.5 .589 .536 .393 .012 6.4 10.6 8.6 9.1 2.1 2.8 19.6 14.9 107 101 0.4 0.6 1.0 .122 10 Cory Joseph 21 20 192 13.2 .485 .482 .196 .196 4.9 13.3 9.3 19.7 1.7 0.8 14.1 17.5 101 103 0.1 0.2 0.4 .088 11 Matt Bonner 32 20 267 12.7 .630 .602 .203 .542 4.0 12.5 8.4 3.4 1.0 1.4 3.0 11.7 131 104 0.6 0.3 0.9 .169 12 Aron Baynes 26 4 23 10.6 .571 .571 .000 .000 10.3 14.5 12.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.5 16.5 107 106 0.0 0.0 0.0 .090 13 Boris Diaw 30 16 273 10.1 .540 .491 .259 .241 3.5 13.0 8.4 15.0 0.8 0.8 17.8 12.7 107 104 0.2 0.3 0.5 .095 14 Gary Neal 28 21 390 9.0 .503 .470 .119 .489 0.3 12.5 6.6 6.0 0.4 0.2 8.4 18.8 98 106 0.1 0.3 0.4 .052 15 Tracy McGrady 33 6 31 7.0 .000 .000 .000 .429 3.8 25.1 14.8 29.3 3.5 7.4 22.2 13.7 47 90 -0.1 0.1 -0.1 -0.094
you're a hack, but when you put it that way, you make a really solid point. But I'll still pass on the Boozer + Snell deal...
To add on Green's part:
Huge defensive plays against the Heat, Shut down CP3 (2012)
Splitter is pretty meh in terms of what he did in the finals. But his mobility is still pretty vital to this team, especially considering Duncan's age. Not many bigs can guard in the post along with his quickness, that makes him pretty valuable to the Spurs in terms of making another finals run.
to me, Splitter is expendable. He has proven he cant hold down the fort, and for whatever reasons, people think that his Defense is really good, without stats or any eyeball test/specific examples. You get the "hes the anchor" or "but his PNR defense" throw in any other generalization.... but never any REAL SPECIFIC examples or extended amount of PT where he has changed the game defensively.
- I also find it ironic that people claim he is great on D, yet due to his anti-athletic ability, he cant help quick enough (and then recover) if there is a cutter or a drive. Again, how he is "great" at PNR defense is beyond me.
Back to the point. We have green for a good price, he's a mediocre defender with a streaky shot. I would take that over an overpriced C who is mediocre on defense and no offensive game, with a higher price tag. Again the league is so soft with bigs, tiago should get more than what he is worth in returns.
So...
Who needs a "great defending center" that would be willing to part with a SF/PF that can actually contribute, has a good head on his shoulders, and doesnt do the heroball crap, that is willing to play team-ball in SA?
Bull . Splitter has the 4th best FG% against defense by a big in the league. He also has the lowest (good) defensive rate on the Spurs.
I like Green considering his price and his role. He does it well, and when he and kawhi are on defensively, its really disruptive. People expect to much from Green. He has a role and does it well.
As far as Splitter, I agree he is expendable. I never said he was a great defender. I said his PnR defense against the grizz and Gs were huge. He wasn't and anchor, but he made key defensive plays in big moments, not necessarily the block, but sliding over and forcing the O player to make an adjustment.
In the playoffs, you need physicality. He lacks that. As much as I dislike Ayers, in the playoffs, his toughness will he much appreciated when it gets tough in the trenches vs what we've had in recent years. That is my only explanation for all the PT he's getting. Pop sees his toughness translating well when the game turns into a grind in the post season.
From a broader perspective, it makes sense to be a "buyer" in this market. Using deals like the Deng deal as an example, the price for players is pretty low. Assets like the willingness to take on money and first rounders have a ton of value (more than normal) right now.
For a contending team, you may be able to get a very quality player for those assets whereas before you could not.
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Aggressive trade in 3,2,1....
Any word on Thomas?
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