Green injury thread (Update: out 4 weeks)

[cd021]

Horrible luck. Gone for a month. The injuries are starting to pile up.

Just like last season, Lost Leonard and Captain for a month. within 3 games of each other.

[Budkin]

4 weeks?? Smfh

[PÒÓCH]

I could care less what they were on their off days

They happen to be 2 our better defenders...

I could care less what they were on their off days

your wright, aint don't madder what they were, I stand corekted.

[HI-FI]

Dex and hater with the GM goods in this one.


not thrilled about injury but least we get to see what others can bring to the table in bigger roles. whoever replaces Green, hopefully they don't fly past defender on every 3 point fake.

[ajballer4]

I would guess CoJo backs up the 1, Mills swings to back up the 2, and Manu backs up the 3.

[ajballer4]

At least on O. I would guess CoJo still defends the 2

[KaiRMD1]

Guys remember this is that part of the season where a vital rotation player goes out (Manu/Green/Splitter this time around) and some role player gets his chance to shine and ends up proving himself and getting a bigger role. I recall Neal stepping up when Manu went out, what was it, 2012? and getting a more consistent role afterwards.

Wasn't that how Kawhi came into prominence as well?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Wasn't that how Kawhi came into prominence as well?

No.

[ajballer4]

Wasn't that how Kawhi came into prominence as well?

The RJ trade put him the starting lineup, that's what really put him on the scene. All of ST knew he was starting caliber though

[KaiRMD1]

The RJ trade put him the starting lineup, that's what really put him on the scene. All of ST knew he was starting caliber though

My mistake, for some reason, I think it was next man up with him.

[ChumpDumper]

My guess is Thomas gets time as the second perimeter defender.

Has he even been recalled?

[cd021]

your wright, aint don't madder what they were, I stand corekted.

I wrote the last line and then copied and pasted it to the top and forgot to delete it from the bottom. But my point is they are big reasons why we are so good defensively. They aren't soft. Its all perception.

[spurraider21]

i don't understand the Green trade talk. he's on a very friendly contract tbh

[HarlemHeat37]

Pop was just starting to run the lineup of TP/Green/Kawhi/Diaw/TD, which is the Spurs most effective lineup IMO, so this is a setback in that regard..

I agree with the others that said the timing of the injury shouldn't matter, it's still relatively early in the season and these games are mostly meaningless, tbh..the Thunder have looked mediocre without Westbrook and Portland is regressing to their expected level of play, so it shouldn't hurt in the standings..

I also agree with the poster that said these types of injuries allow others to step up, but the Spurs don't really have legit alternatives at the moment..Joseph and DeColo are ass, tbh..it would be interesting if Thomas got some minutes, I'd like to see him get a chance like James Johnson has gotten in Memphis..

[PÒÓCH]

I wrote the last line and then copied and pasted it to the top and forgot to delete it from the bottom. But my point is they are big reasons why we are so good defensively. They aren't soft. Its all perception.

Ok give me the comparative statistics that prove your point.

[Chinook]

Has he even been recalled?

Dunno, but I think he will as soon as Pop rests Manu again. Four weeks is a long time. I understand De Colo getting time at the two, but Green played a lot of three and even some minutes at the four. So it's not like some have said where Thomas and Green don't play the same position at all.

[Juggity]

This is pretty bad news imo, if only because it is stacked on other existing injuries. I was expecting this injury to keep him out for 2 weeks, not 4.

Without Green and Splitter the spurs become at best an average defensive team. Those are 2 key cogs.

[hater]

can't really agree on Green's D. Sure it's decent, and his athleticism helps him come back on shooters and block shots. But he's nothing special on the defensive end.

I do agree on Splitter, Splitter is key to the entire Spurs defensive scheme. He will be sorely missed. Although Diaw and now Aires seem to be picking up the slack. only time will tell

[Ice009]

I also agree with the poster that said these types of injuries allow others to step up, but the Spurs don't really have legit alternatives at the moment..Joseph and DeColo are ass, tbh..it would be interesting if Thomas got some minutes, I'd like to see him get a chance like James Johnson has gotten in Memphis..

Didn't the Spurs bring James Johnson in during the off-season for a look/workout? Does anyone remember? A few posters were actually mentioning him as a possible off-season signing. I wonder why they didn't at least give him a training camp invite to see what he could do.

[ezau]

Spurs just need to be healthy in the playoffs. Better for this to happen now than in March or April.

[313]

We're better off without the scrub tbfh

[cjw]

This is pretty bad news imo, if only because it is stacked on other existing injuries. I was expecting this injury to keep him out for 2 weeks, not 4.

Without Green and Splitter the spurs become at best an average defensive team. Those are 2 key cogs.

Average at best is awfully harsh. Have you seen some of the teams out there? That would put them in the same zone as the Washingtons and Bostons of the world (who get to pad their schedule against Eastern Conference compe ion).

Giving up 95 on the road tonight when your defensive anchor fouls out and the other team hits ~3 more threes than they normally would (7 for 10) isn't too shabby either.

[313]

Since splitter the scrub went down we've allowed, 90, 86, and 95 points by our opponents. Diaw starting >>>>>>>>>>>>>

[SupremeGuy]

Green's defense could have been helpful tonight, tbh.

[cd021]

Ok give me the comparative statistics that prove your point.

10-11 season the Spurs were 11th in defensive rating. Both Splitter and Green seldom played
11-12-Spurs 10th in defensive rating both Green and Splitter rotation players. Green started 38 games.
12-13-Spurs are 2nd in defensive rating with both Green and Splitter starting. Both played 2000+ minutes and appeared in ,at least, 80 games.

The parker-Green-Leonard-Duncan-Diaw lineup last season-92 points per 100 possessions
Parker-Green-Leonard-Duncan-Splitter- lineup last season-87 points per 100 possesions

Green had the highest +/- on the team last season.

Splitter was second on the team in defensive win share, Green was 4th.

When Green as the primary defender from game 3-6 against the Warriors, Steph Curry shot just 26-71 (36%)

also the Parker-Green-Leonard-Duncan-Splitter were the 17 points better per 100 possessions than any other Spurs lineup in last seasons playoffs.

This season Splitter's defensive rating is at 101 (same as last season) Green has played the 5th most minutes of any player on the Spurs and has the 3rd best defensive rating behind Duncan and Leonard. He is also 3rd in defensive win shares behind those same players.