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    respectable as in not letting his man score 30? hahaha. the only finals he didn't let a pg get off was 2007 and that was gibson and pavlovic(sp?). billups, kidd, and chalmers(in crucial games) did their normal or above normal work to him.
    Too many posters like you on this board nowadays. You love to disagree with someone just for the sake of disagreeing. Really ruins the quality of this board.

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    When do we have our full roster back again? 2.5 weeks?

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    When do we have our full roster back again? 2.5 weeks?
    I'd say that Leonard won't be back for another 4 weeks.

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    Too many posters like you on this board nowadays. You love to disagree with someone just for the sake of disagreeing. Really ruins the quality of this board.
    am i lying? and u can always use the block feature. it cost u nothing to do so.

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    1-10 and people are still in denial. Good teams find a way to win. I did expect this loss though and the injuries didnt help.

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    Pretty much. Parker has never really been a bad defender in his career. Lately, however, he has looked very lackadaisical on the defensive end.

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    I think it's time the team has a closed door meeting and talk about this business of not beating contenders. Even without key players, Manu has said it's gotten to their heads and that has to stop now.

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    He would hit more if he didn't pump fake so much
    He doesn't do it nearly as much as he did during the 11-12 playoff run. When he does now, his defender steps up to contest and he blows by them for a layup. I saw that like 3 times today. He is spending significantly more time on the perimeter. That is a very good thing for our offense, in terms of spacing.

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    Those were bad decisions by Tony, agreed. We went away from what works. But our defense was far more worrying in the 3rd quarter. The Heat got everything they wanted on the offensive end.
    Tony's been like this his whole career. He's a mid-volume scorer that can't maintain his efficiency in the post-season. His chokejobs date back all the way to 2004. Spurs will never win a championship with TP as our first option.

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    It's cool guys, Spurs are beating the Knicks now


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    I think it's time the team has a closed door meeting and talk about this business of not beating contenders. Even without key players, Manu has said it's gotten to their heads and that has to stop now.
    Well thankfully it isn't March/April yet. I would hate to see the Spurs peak in January and February only to falter towards the playoffs.

    That being said, I would be very disappointed and believe in the team less if they can't acquire another perimeter defender. They desperately need one cause all the elite teams in the NBA (minus Indiana) are all perimeter oriented, athletic teams. The Spurs can't hang with that as currently constructed.

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    Tony's been like this his whole career. He's a mid-volume scorer that can't maintain his efficiency in the post-season. His chokejobs date back all the way to 2004. Spurs will never win a championship with TP as our first option.
    You are too hard on Tony. I know this is the day and age that everyone is in love with the PG, but they are really overvalued. You are not going to win a championship with ANY point guard as your first option. Not Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo, Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams, etc.

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    Pretty much. Parker has never really been a bad defender in his career. Lately, however, he has looked very lackadaisical on the defensive end.
    haha, lately as in how many years? are u forgetting dragic's 21 point 4th quarter 2010. or 2009 when barea was driving on him at will in the first round against the mavs? he's never been a great defender.. timmy was just younger and could recover quicker.

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    Well thankfully it isn't March/April yet. I would hate to see the Spurs peak in January and February only to falter towards the playoffs.

    That being said, I would be very disappointed and believe in the team less if they can't acquire another perimeter defender. They desperately need one cause all the elite teams in the NBA (minus Indiana) are all perimeter oriented, athletic teams. The Spurs can't hang with that as currently constructed.
    This.

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    It's cool guys, Spurs are beating the Knicks now

    haha. i had to rewind that back on the dvr. wtf

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    haha, lately as in how many years? are u forgetting dragic's 21 point 4th quarter 2010. or 2009 when barea was driving on him at will in the first round against the mavs? he's never been a great defender.. timmy was just younger and could recover quicker.
    Never said he was a great defender, I said he used to be a respectable defender.

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    I've said this before and history indicates they won't make it to the finals this season. Start shopping everything except big 3 for next season
    Well, history also indicates that the Heat won't make it to the Finals this year, so the question is are we good enough to beat OKC, Houston, Portland, and Indiana?

    *Thinks about it*

    No, no we're not

    Let the shopping begin..

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    haha. i had to rewind that back on the dvr. wtf
    We're just so good at beating losers, whenever one is losing, everybody thinks it's because we're the ones playing them.

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    You are too hard on Tony. I know this is the day and age that everyone is in love with the PG, but they are really overvalued. You are not going to win a championship with ANY point guard as your first option. Not Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo, Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams, etc.
    You have a good argument there but the bulls would beg to differ. And the only way the clippers can win is with Paul going superhuman and as the first option.

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    You are too hard on Tony. I know this is the day and age that everyone is in love with the PG, but they are really overvalued. You are not going to win a championship with ANY point guard as your first option. Not Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo, Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Deron Williams, etc.

    How many PGs are in the perfect situation(smart coach, good big, deep bench) like Tony is in? We probably beat the Heat last year if we had Paul playing in Parker's place. Curry too.

    Even as a 2nd option, Tony was terrible. Remember 2004 when he went 7-23 against the Lakers in the pivotal game 5? He's been disappointing Spurs fans for a long time.
    Last edited by Johnny RIngo; 01-26-2014 at 04:09 PM.

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    You have a good argument there but the bulls would beg to differ. And the only way the clippers can win is with Paul going superhuman and as the first option.
    Rose was MVP for a reason, I'll give you that. But to your Clipper argument...that's the precise reason why the Clippers won't win a championship. I give them some chance because Griffin is really beginning to develop into a more well-rounded player, but Paul can not carry a team in the playoffs. His numbers are great, but there is really no such thing as a dominant point guard in the NBA. They are important, yes, but they can't be your first option. Too much deviation from the mean from game to game for my taste.

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    How many PGs are in the perfect situation(smart coach, good big, deep bench) like Tony is in? We probably beat the Heat last year if we had Paul playing in Parker's place. Curry too.
    Come on man. Tony was astounding last year. Don't forget he injured his hammy last year in the Finals. That would affect any player to a great degree.

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    If there was a drinking game for how many times ESPN mentions Game 6, I'd be dead by the 2nd Quarter.
    How many did they? Missed Most of first half/pre game. Duncan looked real good ...

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    How many did they? Missed Most of first half/pre game. Duncan looked real good ...
    Barely. Maybe 3-4 times. Most talk was about the game at hand.

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    How many PGs are in the perfect situation(smart coach, good big, deep bench) like Tony is in? We probably beat the Heat last year if we had Paul playing in Parker's place. Curry too.
    No, we beat the heat in six for SEVERAL reasons we could've controlled but choked away. And TP was the reason we won game 1 with that clutch jumper. He manned up in the finals and did the best he could, playing injured.

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